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sharkie
Austria18420 Posts
On April 28 2014 02:40 Steveling wrote: How can chelsea fans tolerate this. If my team had that squad and played that football I'd be furious. VAMOS ATLETICO! the same way you can tolerate cheering for Greece? ^^ | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
On April 28 2014 02:50 sharkie wrote: the same way you can tolerate cheering for Greece? ^^ Do Greece a have squad like Chelsea have, filled to the brim with talent? | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
On April 28 2014 02:40 Steveling wrote: How can chelsea fans tolerate this. If my team had that squad and played that football I'd be furious. VAMOS ATLETICO! What is up with this mentality? I fell in love with Arsenal and still support them passionately because I think we play some of the prettiest and best football in the entire world (on our good days, and without half the squad being injured, of course. That said, I'd rather us play fucking ridiculously ugly rugby-like football and hoof it long onto Giroud's head for a 90th minute winner to still have a chance at the title, than sit at fourth in the table because we have literally no back-up plan when we're not allowed to pass the ball to our quick wingers. Also, I find it intriguing and very entertaining to see Mourinho manage a defensive master-class against one of the best attacking outfits in the game right now. Disclaimer: Not saying that you have to agree: I just find it confusing that some of you say you wouldn't be happy with your team doing everything they can to win, even if that means the football won't be pretty. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
so sick... Atletic Bilbao 3-1 Sevilla welcome to CL Bilbao! I hope either Liverpool or Yanited signs Rakitic because he deserves to play on better team. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6291 Posts
On April 28 2014 02:40 Steveling wrote: How can chelsea fans tolerate this. If my team had that squad and played that football I'd be furious. VAMOS ATLETICO! My tv literally died of boredom during a Barcelona game. A few years back me and my dad were watching tv and he just had to put on some la liga game (forgot who they were playing against). Kept on nagging him to change the channel and I eventually fell asleep during the game. Next thing I know, dad is waking me up saying the tv just said nope... I'm out.. and killed itself. True story. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
They obviously sat very deep. I think there were two buses parked today, never mind one. It was like a back six with three midfield players in front of that. That's 10, with the goalkeeper, for 90 minutes consistently behind the ball.I don't think it's a tactic. Anyone can ask a team to just sit back and defend on the edge of the box. Unless you get that early goal, it doesn't entice them to come out. It was clear that they'd come certainly not wanting to win the game, with the time-wasting and whatnot. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9286578/premier-league-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-frustrated-after-loss-to-chelsea so salty ahahahah. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
On April 28 2014 02:40 Steveling wrote: How can chelsea fans tolerate this. If my team had that squad and played that football I'd be furious. VAMOS ATLETICO! Same way you tolerate 70% possession and no attacking threat xD It's different peoples opinions and taste :D Chelsea play awesome in top games because we stop the other team from playing their game and we counter with ours. I think that is awesome, and vs lesser sides we play the passing game and have 70% possession and still lose aka vs Palace and Villa xD + Show Spoiler [Gerrard Quote] + ![[image loading]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10154052_1026711277369088_8783594084581687600_n.jpg) Lolol poor Stevie G  | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
You can appreciate what barca does or did in their prime years, because it's so damn difficult and only a handful of teams tried to dominate so much in the history of the sport. Even if you don't like it or find it boring. But there's no respect in what chelsea does, it's not difficult and every competent manager could do the same. | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On April 28 2014 03:54 zeo wrote: My tv literally died of boredom during a Barcelona game. A few years back me and my dad were watching tv and he just had to put on some la liga game (forgot who they were playing against). Kept on nagging him to change the channel and I eventually fell asleep during the game. Next thing I know, dad is waking me up saying the tv just said nope... I'm out.. and killed itself. True story. i bet you were watching this game + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/c1yRSqA.jpg) | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:13 Steveling wrote: He's right though. You can appreciate what barca does or did in their prime years, because it's so damn difficult and only a handful of teams tried to dominate so much in the history of the sport. Even if you don't like it or find it boring. But there's no respect in what chelsea does, it's not difficult and every competent manager could do the same. So why isn't their more teams like Chelsea then? Winning champions leagues and premiership titles that way then? Rafa played the exact same way Mourinho does with his Chelsea team? Where is Benitez's titles or success as much as Mourinho? He hasn't because he couldn't. At his time in Liverpool he through away a league with that style and Mourinho has won 2. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:16 Pandemona wrote: So why isn't their more teams like Chelsea then? Winning champions leagues and premiership titles that way then? Rafa played the exact same way Mourinho does with his Chelsea team? Where is Benitez's titles or success as much as Mourinho? He hasn't because he couldn't. At his time in Liverpool he through away a league with that style and Mourinho has won 2. Not all managers stoop so low as mou to win. Pep for example would prefer gauging his left eye instead of forcing his team to play like that. Wenger the same, klopp, ancelotti, rodgers and basically every other top manager will never park the bus and convert a cb to cdm(pepe, david luiz). But still some teams win with these tactics, inter, atletico for example. And it's only so bad because mou does that tactic with rm and chelsea, two of the most talented teams in the world. You can be sure that if simeone goes to barca next season and plays defensive he will get flack as well. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:22 Steveling wrote: Not all managers stoop so low as mou to win. Pep for example would prefer gauging his left eye instead of forcing his team to play like that. Wenger the same, klopp, ancelotti, rodgers and basically every other top manager will never park the bus and convert a cb to cdm(pepe, david luiz). But still some teams win with these tactics, inter, atletico for example. And it's only so bad because mou does that tactic with rm and chelsea, two of the most talented teams in the world. You can be sure that if simeone goes to barca next season and plays defensive he will get flack as well. Mourinho's team plays defensively only when they need to. You can't get these scores with defensive style: Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal Chelsea 4-0 Spurs Chelsea 3-1 Manchester United Chelsea 2-0 PSG Thats why Mourinho is the best manager in the world. His teams can play with two or three styles. He always have a plan "B" or even "C". He isnt like Pep, all Pep know is pass, pass and pass, he dont have a plan B. On April 27 2014 23:23 Liquid`Drone wrote: Nope. They won a CL with an even more turtly mindset, but the only year they won the league without mourinho (2009-2010) they scored 103 goals - the PL record. The thing is chelsea is nothing like greece or benitez-liverpool,even if they are extremely safe defensively this season, but they change tactics depending on the opposition.. This season, you have the kinda shameful (in terms of defensiveness) 0-0 vs atletico, and then you have the absolutely godly 6-0 trashing of arsenal.. This. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:32 Mensol wrote: Mourinho's team plays defensively only when they need to. Yeah rm needed to play that disgusting defensive games, they have a bad team, cristiano who? Better let Pepe gun down the attackers and all is well. I guess mou is a genius after all. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
What do they italians give to their old strikers? | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:51 Kleinmuuhg wrote: Says Ciro Immobile with 21 goals an Luca Toni with 19 goals in my books..? All time, not for this season, xD. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:39 Steveling wrote: Yeah rm needed to play that disgusting defensive games, they have a bad team, cristiano who? Better let Pepe gun down the attackers and all is well. I guess mou is a genius after all. You have a good team doesnt mean that you have to play attacking style all the time. If you want to be the best team in the world, both your defence and attack have to be strong. btw Pepe&David Luiz to cdm is totally genius. Especially for D.Luiz because his technique is one of the best. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6222 Posts
On April 28 2014 04:57 Mensol wrote: You have a good team doesnt mean that you have to play attacking style all the time. If you want to be the best team in the world, both your defence and attack have to be strong. btw Pepe&David Luiz to cdm is totally genius. Especially for D.Luiz because his technique is one of the best. Isn't Ancelotti proving that Real Madrid can play incredibly well offensively and how is Pepe to cdm genius in any way? | ||
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