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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
April 02 2014 10:53 GMT
#14441
If they still don't have reelections after that... Nice job Rosell!
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
April 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#14442
So if ter Stegen didn't sign a contract yet he won't be able to join them?
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 02 2014 10:56 GMT
#14443
so how much of an impact do you think the transfer ban would make?
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 11:04:31
April 02 2014 10:57 GMT
#14444
I guess so. Valdés can't leave either x)
On April 02 2014 19:56 malcram wrote:
so how much of an impact do you think the transfer ban would make?

I don't know... Next year they'll get Rafinha and Deulofeu back from loan, and they can loan players they don't want to keep. The problem is I think Martino isn't going to continue next year (which is a good thing, imo). It's going to be difficult to hire a new coach that won't be able to make changes for 12 months.

It also means that they'll have to use la Cantera to replace players like Puyol and Xavi (who's not leaving but who's getting older...). Probably a good thing for players like Bartra and Sergi Roberto/Rafinha.

Last season, I already wished that they could rebuild the team around different players (from la cantera or from transfers), a different coach and a different direction. With this thing, it might be what's going to happen!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 11:07:18
April 02 2014 11:03 GMT
#14445
Yeah you can sell players under this, you just cannot buy.
Chelsea got one remember


Oh fuck this one is serious, the Chelsea one we could sell just couldn't buy for 1 window xD
This is cannot buy or sell for 2 windows. Haha Barca fucked up

The ban relates to 10 players under 18 signed in the time spanning 2009-2013
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
April 02 2014 11:29 GMT
#14446
Wow this could be huge.
Anyone a detailed source on the rule? As far as i understand german media it means the they cant either sell or buy any player with a running contract.
Also if i remember correctly pre determent contracts (like the one of neymar) doesn´t matter at all which means no Ter Stegen, no Halilovic, no Gündogan.

Bad timing do to the need of at least one CB, a keeper and even a long term Xavi replacement. CAS might be the last hope here.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6274 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 11:48:24
April 02 2014 11:36 GMT
#14447
Valdes runs out of his contract doesn't he so he can leave if he wants. Will be impossible to replace him.

edit: except for the goalie problem I don't think it's that bad for the club. Like someone else said we have Bartra etc. And it'll give the club some time to shore up the finances. The only fucked up thing is for players who don't get a lot of play time now and maybe want to leave like Pedro and Alexis Sanchez.

edit2: More importantly the way clubs buy underaged kids is truely disgusting imo and the ban is justified as well.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 11:49:31
April 02 2014 11:48 GMT
#14448
I think Valdes was going to give up on his last year of contract so he could leave easily. Not sure though, but he might need to stay now.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 02 2014 12:17 GMT
#14449
dayumm Barca's fucked.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 12:46:36
April 02 2014 12:44 GMT
#14450
Uh I've read that they can sell, just not buy. And it isn't definite, they can still challenge the decision, which they will. They have 3 months to prove that they haven't done anything illegitimate.

Also heard that because Valdes got heavily injured they offered him a 1 year contract extension because at this point no club would hire him. If true, that's ridiculously classy by Barça.

Honestly I doubt the decision will stand. It's way too big of a punishment. This is equivalent to giving Barça an 8 figure fine.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 02 2014 12:55 GMT
#14451
Yeah but they have allegedly signed 10....1 0.....underage players illegally with the help of the Spanish FA. That is BAD! Chelsea got 1 window ban for signing John Obi Mikel after he signed for Yanited. 1 player, 1 window ban (was 2 but appealed). I think 2 window ban for 10 illegal players (allegedly) is justified lol.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
tekos44
Profile Joined June 2011
France280 Posts
April 02 2014 13:07 GMT
#14452
Wasnt chelsea's ban for Kakuta ? I recall something about him
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 13:09:48
April 02 2014 13:08 GMT
#14453
Oh yeah it was Kakuta....lol we got banned for signing an average player...

The way Chelsea got their ban overturned (After missing out on 1 transfer window) is we paid off the club in which the underage player was on the books for. We paid off Lens in this case money for the player (Kakuta) which i don't know the amount we gave them but thats how we did it. Then FIFA said ok, that is fine and lifted it. Barcelona will have to do that to potentially 10 clubs.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 02 2014 14:22 GMT
#14454
If this BS actually stands (which I don't think it will) it could be the time for Barça B CBs and keeper to shine lol

The keeper Jordi Masip is a total beast.

Also FIFA has given La Masia some trophies for being the best football school in the world.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 02 2014 14:25 GMT
#14455
Yeah but it isn't the school that is the problem, it is the buying of youngsters to go into the school. The school teaching itself doesn't change whether it has Spanish kids playing it or African/Koreans. It's how these other children get into the school in the first place is the issue
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
April 02 2014 14:44 GMT
#14456
On April 02 2014 22:08 Pandemona wrote:
Oh yeah it was Kakuta....lol we got banned for signing an average player...

The way Chelsea got their ban overturned (After missing out on 1 transfer window) is we paid off the club in which the underage player was on the books for. We paid off Lens in this case money for the player (Kakuta) which i don't know the amount we gave them but thats how we did it. Then FIFA said ok, that is fine and lifted it. Barcelona will have to do that to potentially 10 clubs.

i think it was something around one million we payed Lens. Don't know if it was euros or pounds though...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
April 02 2014 14:46 GMT
#14457
I love how the Barca fans even try to justify this one.

Barca broke the law, thats a fact.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 15:00:21
April 02 2014 14:51 GMT
#14458
Barça broke the law for like 10 years, just like every strong team out there

Hell even Messi was signed when he was 14. If I have to choose between some dumb rule that needed to be changed years ago or see the sickest talent grow up in a beast school, the choice is not hard.

Edit: Oh I did not know that Pande. Still think it's a dumb rule but appreciate the correction anyway.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 02 2014 14:57 GMT
#14459
Yeah but the law only changed recently so you could not do this and punishments were in place for it. Hence Chelsea got hit with it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 02 2014 16:26 GMT
#14460
Chelsea should sign a striker and Luke Shaw no matter what in transfer window.

I think Luke Shaw fits perfectly for Mourinho's system, He's tall and he will become a monster like Ivanovic under Mourinho
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
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