Of course there are several good goalkeepers but Ive you're an objective person and had to pick one it has to be Neuer. I mean statistics proof it and his ability with the ball is unmatched by any other goalkeeper.
I also dont understand why that wouldnt be important for a goalkeeper. Of course its not his primary task but in the end it contributes to winning games. Can't just ignore that.

All other arguments stated like he doesnt get as much open shots etc. are just speculation with no data to back it up.

Also I dont know why Buffon is even mentioned. Hes still good but he got old and isnt worldclass anymore. Hes nowhere near Neuer or Cech.

Pandemona

Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts

March 11 2014 15:31 GMT

#13382

On March 12 2014 00:06 Akka wrote:
I think we should ask Neuer to take Llloris' place in Tottenham for a few games to see what he's really worth.

LOL
This is true

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

March 11 2014 15:38 GMT

#13383

I'm in the Neuer camp as well

That said, pre-injury Cech was the best goalkeeper I've ever witnessed. Commanding, fearless and insane stopping ability. That guy was a tank with cheetah reflexes.

Kotreb

Croatia1392 Posts

March 11 2014 15:40 GMT

#13384

Anyone knows here what happened to Akinfeev? Last i remember he was supposed to be next big thing but he got injured or smtgh and i've never heard of him again.

PhilGood2DaY

Germany7424 Posts

March 11 2014 15:44 GMT

#13385

Ofc its hard to say someone is clear Nr1..

Hes top 5 for sure. I didnt want to start a discussion. All i can say is that skillwise in terms of passing and handling the ball he is just the best and better than some players even.

Dingodile

4139 Posts

March 11 2014 15:49 GMT

#13386

Best games I have seen from Neuer were two games with Schalke. Porto vs Schalke ( Rather Neuer vs Porto) and Schalke vs ManU, Ferguson said after the match: "He was the best goalkeeper against us, I truly thought we were unable to score against him."

sharkie

Austria18636 Posts

March 11 2014 16:26 GMT

#13387

On March 12 2014 00:20 TerransHill wrote:
Of course there are several good goalkeepers but Ive you're an objective person and had to pick one it has to be Neuer. I mean statistics proof it and his ability with the ball is unmatched by any other goalkeeper.
I also dont understand why that wouldnt be important for a goalkeeper. Of course its not his primary task but in the end it contributes to winning games. Can't just ignore that.

All other arguments stated like he doesnt get as much open shots etc. are just speculation with no data to back it up.

Also I dont know why Buffon is even mentioned. Hes still good but he got old and isnt worldclass anymore. Hes nowhere near Neuer or Cech.

Did you seriously wrote if with ve? "Ive" - funny :D
Buffon is mentioned because he kicked the Germans out of a tournament, once more

BeaTeR

Kazakhstan4130 Posts

March 11 2014 17:04 GMT

#13388

On March 12 2014 00:40 Kotreb wrote:
Anyone knows here what happened to Akinfeev? Last i remember he was supposed to be next big thing but he got injured or smtgh and i've never heard of him again.

i remember there were rumours that MU wanted to buy him before they got De Gea. Seems that injury affected his improving. The guy is just avergae atm. He still plays in CSKA Moscow, a couple of days ago Akinfeev concided 4 goals in second time against Dynamo Moscow after his team were leading 2-0 in HT lol (ex-chelsea player Yuri Zhirkov scored twice and made an assist in this match btw).
Though he is #1 in national squad i must admitt.

warding

Portugal2395 Posts

March 11 2014 17:21 GMT

#13389

One guy to look out for is Jan Oblak (like Mensol, I'm also very unbiased). He's 21 and has conceded only 1 goal in 12 matches for Benfica this season.

TerransHill

Germany572 Posts

March 11 2014 17:39 GMT

#13390

On March 12 2014 01:26 sharkie wrote:

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Did you seriously wrote if with ve? "Ive" - funny :D
Buffon is mentioned because he kicked the Germans out of a tournament, once more

Guess I did. :o

sitromit

7051 Posts

March 11 2014 18:34 GMT

#13391

He was terrible in the Dynamo vs CSKA game this weekend.

wingpawn

Poland1342 Posts

March 11 2014 19:19 GMT

#13392

Regarding goalies, there's always that paradox:

> Be a good goalie
> Get noticed and join a top team
> Have less work because of top team's epic defense
> Nobody knows how good you are anymore

I was curious, so I checked the best performing goalkeepers of this season according to WhoScored.com:

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1. Keylor Navas (Levante) 7.27, 26 apps
2. Vito Mannone (Sundeland) 7.21, 17 apps
3. David Ospina (OGC Nice) 7.18, 21 apps
4. Marc-Andre ter Stegen (Gladbach) 7.16, 24 apps
5. Manuel Neuer (Bayern) 7.14, 23 apps
6. Bernd Leno (Leverkusen) 7.11, 24 apps
7. Kossi Agassa (Reims) 7.10, 24 apps
8. Mattia Perin (Genoa) 7.09, 27 apps
9. Wojciech Szczęsny (Arsenal) 7.08, 28 apps
10. Raphael Schäfer (Nurnberg) 7.05, 24 apps
11. Andrea Consigli (Atalanta) 7.03, 25 apps
12. Vlada Avramov (Cagliari) 7.02, 14 apps
13. Rafael (Verona) 7.00, 27 apps
--- Willy Caballero (Malaga) 7.00, 27 apps
15. Victor Valdes (Barcelona) 6.98, 23 apps
16. Asmir Begovic (Stoke) 6.96, 24 apps
17. Antonio Mirante (Parma) 6.94, 26 apps
18. Danijel Subasic (Monaco) 6.93, 28 apps
19. Gianluca Pegolo (Sassuolo) 6.92, 23 apps
--- Jussi Jääskeläinen (West Ham) 6.92, 18 apps

As you see, mostly heroes of lesser clubs.

Personally, I'm split between Neuer and Valdes. Neuer probably makes less mistakes and sweeps the crosses better, but Valdes often saves impossible chances (which Neuer hardly has to face with almost 80% posession).

Liquid`Drone

Norway28797 Posts

March 11 2014 19:40 GMT

#13393

I think Neuer is the best GK Bayern could have. I don't think he'd be the best for a mid-low table PL team.

Also agreeing that pre-injury Cech was the best I've ever seen, he's still great but he permanently lost some fearlessness and GK's greatly benefit from being fearless.

wingpawn

Poland1342 Posts

March 11 2014 19:45 GMT

#13394

Well, the best I've ever seen was Peter Schmeichel during MU's Champions League run in 1999 (apart from his performance in the final, where he was as bad as the rest of his team). Oh, and also Oliver Kahn in Korea/Japan 2002 World Cup.

Compared to those two, Cech is close but no cigar.

Liquid`Drone

Norway28797 Posts

March 11 2014 20:02 GMT

#13395

ya actually Kahn in 2002 WC was the best I've ever seen too. But I never watched him much during regular seasons. And Schmeichel is a total legend.

sharkie

Austria18636 Posts

March 11 2014 20:02 GMT

#13396

Oliver Kahn in 2002 World Cup was surreal.
If you look at Germany's squad back then you always ask yourself "how did that team get into the final" lol

Liquid`Drone

Norway28797 Posts

March 11 2014 20:08 GMT

#13397

To be fair though, Kahn actually fucked up pretty big in the actual finals.. Definitely the best I've seen up until that point, but Brazil's 1-0 goal in the final was a big mistake from his behalf.