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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 25 2014 18:33 GMT
#12781
crazy game bvb vs zenit
hatred outlives the hateful
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 25 2014 22:22 GMT
#12782
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
February 25 2014 22:50 GMT
#12783
On February 26 2014 07:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/SoccerByIves/status/438429326724587521


Nice, he's looked pretty solid in pre-season. Good to have some young talent coming up.
WhiZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden853 Posts
February 26 2014 10:08 GMT
#12784


lol.. what a guy :p
why
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 26 2014 11:30 GMT
#12785
On February 26 2014 02:04 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 01:07 Twisted wrote:
On February 26 2014 00:59 Ysellian wrote:
Neymar cost 86.2 million euros as revealed by Barcelona so that would make him cheaper than Bale who was 100mil I believe. Still it is bizarrely expensive for a player with a one year contract. I know he was majority owned by Papa Neymar, but you could have had Suarez for that kind of money.


Well they also had to make a deal with the Spanish tax regulation service (or whatever it's called) to the amount of €13,5m according to some Dutch football sites. So that would put it right around €100m. Not sure if those numbers are included in transfer fees though.

And nah Steveling, I don't think Neymar had that much of a bigger impact than Bale did at Real. Couple that with the fact that Bale's best position is filled with Ronaldo, then I think he's been doing ok at Madrid.

Wouldn't the fact that RM paid 100m for someone on a position which is already filled and where they have a talented young player be exactly the reason why it's a bad transfer. At least Neymar can play in his own spot and do it for years to come and he's better than the alternatives.


Yeah I'm not arguing against that. I think the Bale transfer is a disaster. 100m spent on a player whose position is filled by the second best player in the world. But that isn't really his fault (well partly, but w/e). My point is that given with what he's got, not being able to play at his best position, he's doing ok and not much worse than Neymar.

On February 26 2014 01:12 Steveling wrote:
If you think that neymar was the key player for super cup and clasico victories as well as how important for brazil he was during the confederations up I think he's miles ahead bale, since both of them have to prove they are worth the huge sum paid for them.

And I didn't say he's doing bad, just that ney is doing much better so far.


Confederations cup is not important in this argument. If Bale could play on a top national team I'm sure he'd have a big impact as well.

I'm just saying the difference in impact at club level is not that big, which is understandable. It's their first season at arguably the 2 biggest clubs in the world, let's give them time to adjust.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 12:09:26
February 26 2014 12:08 GMT
#12786
On February 26 2014 02:04 RvB wrote:
Wouldn't the fact that RM paid 100m for someone on a position which is already filled and where they have a talented young player be exactly the reason why it's a bad transfer. At least Neymar can play in his own spot and do it for years to come and he's better than the alternatives.


Better than Alexis or Pedro? I doubt it... At least not yet. He hasn't proven anything yet in Barcelona. To be fair Neymar cannot show his full potential with Messi on the pitch with him, it's just retarded. These 2 players need freedom and people playing for them, it was reaaally stupid to buy him. And at what price?...

Like Ysellian said, with that amount of money, they could have bought a world class defender + a world class striker (Suarez would have been a perfect fit indeed :p). His transfer crippled Barcelona for 2 seasons, as they had to pay a part of the transfer the year before and they could only afford Song (who isn't a big success either, but it's not really his fault).

The team needs severe changes before they can accomplish something big again
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
February 26 2014 12:25 GMT
#12787
The moves for bale and neymar might not make too much football sense, but the presidents of the clubs basically had to do it. Neymar was continually linked with barca and real since like 2011 and both sets of fans were expecting him. When neymar chose barca, barca really couldn't refuse no matter how much they had to pay for him. And real in turn had to sign a player to match neymar no matter the price. Yeah, suarez was good last year but not as good as he has been this year and fans were expecting bale. The whole saga is pretty much about continuing their reputations as the two biggest clubs in football.

that being said, rosell is a horrible president and rightfully got fired/resigned. He made a lot of dumb decisions but i can't really blame him too much for signing neymar. Lying about it was what killed him, but again it was to save face so that he didn't have to admit that neymar cost like 120 mil(real said they would have had to pay 150 for neymar).
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2014 12:28 GMT
#12788
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
February 26 2014 12:34 GMT
#12789
On February 26 2014 21:28 Steveling wrote:
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.

I think they have to keep him until at least next year. I'm guessing the soonest he will be fired is when it looks like man utd will fail to qualify for the champions league again next season. It was so stupid to give him a 6-year contract...

I hope moyes stays longer though so he can keep ruining man u and japan's best player at the same time. killing two birds with one stone kekekekeke.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18769 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 12:57:32
February 26 2014 12:56 GMT
#12790
On February 26 2014 21:28 Steveling wrote:
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.


Moyes leaving would probably be a disadvantage for your club XD

On February 26 2014 21:34 Tazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:28 Steveling wrote:
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.

I think they have to keep him until at least next year. I'm guessing the soonest he will be fired is when it looks like man utd will fail to qualify for the champions league again next season. It was so stupid to give him a 6-year contract...

I hope moyes stays longer though so he can keep ruining man u and japan's best player at the same time. killing two birds with one stone kekekekeke.


Japan's best player has changed clubs and is playing in Italy now
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
February 26 2014 13:53 GMT
#12791
as much as i hate moyes for being a pathetic tactician, i still want to give him time. last thing i would want is for man utd to become in the same category as pretty much every other club in the world, where we pretty much recycle managers until one finally wins something.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2014 13:56 GMT
#12792
And if you are chelsea you sack him anyway, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
February 26 2014 14:00 GMT
#12793
On February 26 2014 21:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:28 Steveling wrote:
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.


Moyes leaving would probably be a disadvantage for your club XD

Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 21:34 Tazza wrote:
On February 26 2014 21:28 Steveling wrote:
So is Moyes leaving? That's the latest rumour.

I think they have to keep him until at least next year. I'm guessing the soonest he will be fired is when it looks like man utd will fail to qualify for the champions league again next season. It was so stupid to give him a 6-year contract...

I hope moyes stays longer though so he can keep ruining man u and japan's best player at the same time. killing two birds with one stone kekekekeke.


Japan's best player has changed clubs and is playing in Italy now

Yeah i guess honda has taken over now and it could be argued he always was first since he plays the #10 role over kagawa for japan. either way, neither of them will be playing champions league football next year.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 26 2014 14:02 GMT
#12794
On February 26 2014 22:56 Steveling wrote:
And if you are chelsea you sack him anyway, xD.


He wouldn't of even been considered for the job at Chelsea
We don't employ people with his "CV" or lack of one
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2014 14:04 GMT
#12795
It just dawned on me that this will be man.u's last CL match for a long time, mby even 2-3 years before they are top4 again.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 14:55:59
February 26 2014 14:35 GMT
#12796
On February 26 2014 23:02 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 22:56 Steveling wrote:
And if you are chelsea you sack him anyway, xD.


He wouldn't of even been considered for the job at Chelsea
We don't employ people with his "CV" or lack of one


I think he actually meant Chelsea sacks their managers even if they win something, not Moyes specifically :D
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
February 26 2014 14:40 GMT
#12797
On February 26 2014 23:04 Steveling wrote:
It just dawned on me that this will be man.u's last CL match for a long time, mby even 2-3 years before they are top4 again.

pls. well be top 4 next year. i believe
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10020 Posts
February 26 2014 15:07 GMT
#12798
On February 26 2014 23:40 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2014 23:04 Steveling wrote:
It just dawned on me that this will be man.u's last CL match for a long time, mby even 2-3 years before they are top4 again.

pls. well be top 4 next year. i believe


If you can get 3 world class players in this summer, then maybe.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
February 26 2014 15:14 GMT
#12799
Btw olympiacos had rejected a 8.5m offer for Manolas from Napoli, 2 months ago, during the last transfer window.
I can only imagine what his price will be after yesterday's performance and the world cup partnership with Sokratis.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18769 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-26 18:21:23
February 26 2014 18:21 GMT
#12800
On February 27 2014 00:14 Steveling wrote:
Btw olympiacos had rejected a 8.5m offer for Manolas from Napoli, 2 months ago, during the last transfer window.
I can only imagine what his price will be after yesterday's performance and the world cup partnership with Sokratis.


man each time you mention the world cup you make it sound as if Greece will reach top4 lol

the climate will disappoint so many European teams
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