EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 428
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Usagi
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2 hours before the match: Also via twitter: | ||
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 PSG is Ibra's team, but Blanc is being very smart about it and don't worry about Cavani, he has plenty of opportunities to show what he's best at. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On December 09 2013 22:29 kemoryan wrote: Just being the devil's advocate here. I'm usually wary of phrases that start with "Everybody knows that...", specially when it comes to sports media. AFAIK, the official Barcelona statements never disclosed how the 57 million were spent. Do you have any other solid sources on everything you're saying? Please don't reference spanish sports media outlets a la Marca, sport, etc. Meanwhile, copies of transfer documents from Santos football club, obtained by Brazilian media site Globoesporte, reveal that Barcelona paid €17.1 million for Neymar in what was an overall €57 million deal. Of that, €9 million went to Santos, €7 million to investment company DIS Esporte and €1 million on taxes. The remaining €40.1 million, in the overall €57 million deal, was paid to Neymar and his father - also his agent - as "commission" and a signing-on fee. The documents also show that Barcelona agreed to pay €2 million if Neymar finished among the top three finalists for the Ballon d’Or award. They also arranged to play two friendlies with Santos. Source Original Source (Portugese) Further reading http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/news/newsid=2241740/index.html + Show Spoiler + The contenders for this year’s FIFA Ballon d’Or award for the best player of 2013 and for the FIFA Women’s World Player of the Year 2013 award were announced today on FIFA.com, francefootball.fr and YouTube. In alphabetical order, the FIFA Ballon d’Or nominees are: Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Lionel Messi (Argentina) and Franck Ribéry (France), while Nadine Angerer (Germany), Marta (Brazil) and Abby Wambach (USA) will contest the women’s award. The candidates for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Men’s Football and FIFA World Coach of the Year for Women’s Football awards were also announced. In alphabetical order, the contenders are: Sir Alex Ferguson (Scotland/Manchester United FC former coach), Jupp Heynckes (Germany/FC Bayern München former coach) and Jürgen Klopp (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Men’s Football award, and Ralf Kellermann (Germany/VfL Wolfsburg), Silvia Neid (Germany/German national team) and Pia Sundhage (Sweden/Swedish national team) for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Women’s Football award. All the nominees were confirmed after a voting process which was open to the captains and head coaches of the men’s and women’s national teams of the 209 member associations as well as to international media representatives selected by FIFA and France Football voted for candidates. The percentages of the collected votes are as follows (number of votes/number of associations): Voting for men’s awards: Member associations (captains & coaches): 88% Media representatives: 94% Voting for women’s awards: Member associations (captains & coaches): 83% Media representatives: 70% The voting procedure for each of the awards is supervised and monitored by the independent observer PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) Switzerland. The shortlist of 15 forwards for the FIFA FIFPro World XI was also announced, completing the final shortlist of 55 players also featuring five goalkeepers, 20 defenders and 15 midfielders. The forward shortlist is (home country, club): Sergio Agüero (Argentina, Manchester City FC); Mario Balotelli (Italy, Manchester City FC/AC Milan); Edinson Cavani (Uruguay, SSC Napoli/Paris Saint-Germain FC); Diego Costa (Spain, Club Atlético de Madrid); Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal, Real Madrid CF); Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire, Shanghai Shenhua FC/Galatasaray SK); Radamel Falcao (Colombia, Club Atlético de Madrid/AS Monaco FC); Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden, Paris Saint-Germain FC); Robert Lewandowski (Poland, Borussia Dortmund); Mario Mandžukić (Croatia, FC Bayern München); Lionel Messi (Argentina, FC Barcelona); Neymar (Brazil, Santos FC/FC Barcelona); Wayne Rooney (England, Manchester United FC); Luis Suárez (Uruguay, Liverpool FC); Robin van Persie (Netherlands, Manchester United FC). See the full list on FIFA.com: http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/world11/index.html In addition, the three nominees for the FIFA Puskás Award for the “most beautiful goal of the year” were announced. They are (in alphabetical order of the goalscorers’ names): Zlatan Ibrahimović (13 November 2012, Sweden v. England, international friendly), Nemanja Matić (13 January 2013, SL Benfica v. FC Porto, Liga ZON Sagres (Portugal)) and Neymar (15 June 2013, Brazil v. Japan, FIFA Confederations Cup). All the awards will be presented at the FIFA Ballon d’Or award ceremony at the Kongresshaus in Zurich on 13 January 2014 during a televised show to be streamed live on FIFA.com and FIFA on YouTube. In addition to the above awards, the recipient of the FIFA Presidential Award and the winner of the FIFA Fair Play award will also be revealed during the award ceremony. | ||
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Jimmy Nielsen is going out on top. Two days after coming up huge for Sporting Kansas City in their MLS Cup victory, the veteran goalkeeper has decided to hang up his gloves after a 19-year professional career, announcing his retirement on Monday. "I want to thank the ownership group, my teammates, my coaches and the entire organization for the opportunity to have four of the best years of my life, not only mine but my family as well here in Kansas City," Nielsen said in a club statement. Source FRISCO, Texas – FC Dallas has come to terms with its second-round selection in the 2013 MLS SuperDraft, Ryan Hollingshead, and picked up the 2014 options of 15 players, the club announced today. FC Dallas has also traded Jackson to Toronto FC for allocation money and a conditional second-round pick in the 2015 MLS SuperDraft. Source Chelsea's Samuel Eto'o will head to Major League Soccer at end of season | ||
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On December 10 2013 06:08 Ferrose wrote: Source Original Source (Portugese) Further reading http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/news/newsid=2241740/index.html + Show Spoiler + The contenders for this year’s FIFA Ballon d’Or award for the best player of 2013 and for the FIFA Women’s World Player of the Year 2013 award were announced today on FIFA.com, francefootball.fr and YouTube. In alphabetical order, the FIFA Ballon d’Or nominees are: Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Lionel Messi (Argentina) and Franck Ribéry (France), while Nadine Angerer (Germany), Marta (Brazil) and Abby Wambach (USA) will contest the women’s award. The candidates for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Men’s Football and FIFA World Coach of the Year for Women’s Football awards were also announced. In alphabetical order, the contenders are: Sir Alex Ferguson (Scotland/Manchester United FC former coach), Jupp Heynckes (Germany/FC Bayern München former coach) and Jürgen Klopp (Germany/Borussia Dortmund) for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Men’s Football award, and Ralf Kellermann (Germany/VfL Wolfsburg), Silvia Neid (Germany/German national team) and Pia Sundhage (Sweden/Swedish national team) for the FIFA World Coach of the Year for Women’s Football award. All the nominees were confirmed after a voting process which was open to the captains and head coaches of the men’s and women’s national teams of the 209 member associations as well as to international media representatives selected by FIFA and France Football voted for candidates. The percentages of the collected votes are as follows (number of votes/number of associations): Voting for men’s awards: Member associations (captains & coaches): 88% Media representatives: 94% Voting for women’s awards: Member associations (captains & coaches): 83% Media representatives: 70% The voting procedure for each of the awards is supervised and monitored by the independent observer PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) Switzerland. The shortlist of 15 forwards for the FIFA FIFPro World XI was also announced, completing the final shortlist of 55 players also featuring five goalkeepers, 20 defenders and 15 midfielders. The forward shortlist is (home country, club): Sergio Agüero (Argentina, Manchester City FC); Mario Balotelli (Italy, Manchester City FC/AC Milan); Edinson Cavani (Uruguay, SSC Napoli/Paris Saint-Germain FC); Diego Costa (Spain, Club Atlético de Madrid); Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal, Real Madrid CF); Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire, Shanghai Shenhua FC/Galatasaray SK); Radamel Falcao (Colombia, Club Atlético de Madrid/AS Monaco FC); Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden, Paris Saint-Germain FC); Robert Lewandowski (Poland, Borussia Dortmund); Mario Mandžukić (Croatia, FC Bayern München); Lionel Messi (Argentina, FC Barcelona); Neymar (Brazil, Santos FC/FC Barcelona); Wayne Rooney (England, Manchester United FC); Luis Suárez (Uruguay, Liverpool FC); Robin van Persie (Netherlands, Manchester United FC). See the full list on FIFA.com: http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/world11/index.html In addition, the three nominees for the FIFA Puskás Award for the “most beautiful goal of the year” were announced. They are (in alphabetical order of the goalscorers’ names): Zlatan Ibrahimović (13 November 2012, Sweden v. England, international friendly), Nemanja Matić (13 January 2013, SL Benfica v. FC Porto, Liga ZON Sagres (Portugal)) and Neymar (15 June 2013, Brazil v. Japan, FIFA Confederations Cup). All the awards will be presented at the FIFA Ballon d’Or award ceremony at the Kongresshaus in Zurich on 13 January 2014 during a televised show to be streamed live on FIFA.com and FIFA on YouTube. In addition to the above awards, the recipient of the FIFA Presidential Award and the winner of the FIFA Fair Play award will also be revealed during the award ceremony. I dont pretend to really know how the football business works, but this sounds so wrong. Am i reading this right that Barca paid 40 million directly to Neymar before he ever played a single game? This, weird TV deals, Ronaldo who is basically owned by the EZB, the Nike/Barca thing, massive depts without anyone giving a fuck.... i don´t know the football in spain looks more and more like the italian in the 90´s and early 00´s. Full of "dark" business deals and manipulation in some ways | ||
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On December 10 2013 17:37 USvBleakill wrote: I dont pretend to really know how the football business works, but this sounds so wrong. Am i reading this right that Barca paid 40 million directly to Neymar before he ever played a single game? This, weird TV deals, Ronaldo who is basically owned by the EZB, the Nike/Barca thing, massive depts without anyone giving a fuck.... i don´t know the football in spain looks more and more like the italian in the 90´s and early 00´s. Full of "dark" business deals and manipulation in some ways Now we just need Real Madrid/Barca to get relegated to Liga Adelante \o/ | ||
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On December 10 2013 18:46 Craze wrote: MLS is ridiculously physical actually, physicality without the technical skill that exists in the EPL. The MLS final showcased how wild players are with challenges and the ref's openly sanction it. On December 10 2013 18:49 Pandemona wrote: Ah in that case i don't see him doing that well then :S It might be physical but it´s still very easy for a guy that has seen all the big leagues in Europe. You guys are forgetting that a guy like Eto'o needs less time to make a decision on the ball because technically he's better. So in the end he's still faster. He might be slow-ish in a sprint or whatever, but in terms of vision and technical skill he outshines most of the players in the MLS so he should do just fine. It's not like he became senile all of a sudden. If you have a good first touch you have a second extra to make a decision. Even Beckham did fine in the MLS for years afaik. Granted I've never seen him play in the MLS, but if you're the poster boy of a league I doubt he'd get outplayed by some athletes. It's like saying Usain Bolt would do better in the MLS than Eto'o because he runs fast. | ||
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The Colorado Rapids exercised contract options on eight players and declined options for 11 others on Tuesday, as the process of offseason roster reshuffling cranks up in Commerce City. The club confirmed that Diego Calderón, Jaime Castrillón (above) and Steward Ceus will depart Colorado, while Brenton Griffiths, Kory Kindle, Germán Mera, Brian Mullan, Danny Mwanga, Martín Rivero, Jamie Smith, and Hendry Thomas remain in talks with the club regarding their status for the 2014 season. Source The Portland Timbers today announced that the club has exercised the 2014 contract options on nine players. Additionally, two players’ contract options were declined, two players were waived and six players from the club’s 2013 roster are out of contract. Source Still no word on Jason Kreis whether he will leave Real Salt Lake for a position @ NYFC. | ||
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Steveling
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On December 10 2013 21:07 Copymizer wrote: Must be nice for Eto'o to go to 1 club after another and rake in the millions to his bank account, securing a financial future of freedom as soon as he retires. Lets hope he will use some of them on good causes when he doesn't play anymore... Well, every star player has solved his money problem since their first contract with a big team, this case barca, now he's just adding to his moneypile of money, xD. | ||
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On December 10 2013 05:03 Steveling wrote: What's sad about cavani is that Blanc refuses to play ibra a bit in the back so cavani can play striker, so poor edinson is forced to play as a winger, its like 100% the opposite of his skillset. He played as a winger at Palermo, and I think even in Uruguay. It's not something new, but yeah I agree he's better as a striker. | ||
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On December 10 2013 17:37 USvBleakill wrote: I dont pretend to really know how the football business works, but this sounds so wrong. Am i reading this right that Barca paid 40 million directly to Neymar before he ever played a single game? This, weird TV deals, Ronaldo who is basically owned by the EZB, the Nike/Barca thing, massive depts without anyone giving a fuck.... i don´t know the football in spain looks more and more like the italian in the 90´s and early 00´s. Full of "dark" business deals and manipulation in some ways Well, and Sevilla's president Del Nido was condemned to 7 years of prison 2 days ago for money laundering and a few other charges. Good good... | ||
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On December 10 2013 19:21 Twisted wrote: It might be physical but it´s still very easy for a guy that has seen all the big leagues in Europe. You guys are forgetting that a guy like Eto'o needs less time to make a decision on the ball because technically he's better. So in the end he's still faster. He might be slow-ish in a sprint or whatever, but in terms of vision and technical skill he outshines most of the players in the MLS so he should do just fine. It's not like he became senile all of a sudden. If you have a good first touch you have a second extra to make a decision. Even Beckham did fine in the MLS for years afaik. Granted I've never seen him play in the MLS, but if you're the poster boy of a league I doubt he'd get outplayed by some athletes. It's like saying Usain Bolt would do better in the MLS than Eto'o because he runs fast. Oh, when I say physical I don't mean they are faster. I mean defenders can be fucking crazy with their tackles and get away with so much. After Dempsey's first couple games in the league he said that challenges in MLS are constantly reckless and wild and go unpunished and there was a large article on how the physicality of the MLS Cup Final was so high that it is to the detriment of the league. Eto'o is probably just as fast as most players in the MLS aside from the young super athletes we have that don't have any technical ability. You're right, he'll be way better than most players because of his skills. | ||
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