EPTFor all the good Mike Miller has done on offense I'm starting to think it was a mistake to bring him in. He fucked up real bad, multiple times on defense last night, and the other shit on offense other than shooting 3s (passing, screening, etc.) was subpar as well. Miami has enough floor spacing that I don't think you need another 3pt shooter in there, not if he's going to suck at every other aspect of the game.
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
For all the good Mike Miller has done on offense I'm starting to think it was a mistake to bring him in. He fucked up real bad, multiple times on defense last night, and the other shit on offense other than shooting 3s (passing, screening, etc.) was subpar as well. Miami has enough floor spacing that I don't think you need another 3pt shooter in there, not if he's going to suck at every other aspect of the game. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
But as the beast he is, and the most dominant player in today's game he is, he should make other teams have to stop him to beat them. Wade is clearly not 100% or the same player he once was or whatever you wanna call it, so he can't be waiting for Bosh to make jumpers. Just from a strategy mindset, he should be attacking way more and let the other teams have to figure out a way to stop him, not be waiting for something to click (not literally ofc). Spurs might have a better team but the Heat have the better talent. Generally speaking, talent wins championships, so Lebron has to do whatever it takes to make their talent influence the game more than the Spurs, and show its superiority. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13028 Posts
It's interesting that earlier someone mentioned 2011 LeBron, which is not an unfair comparison--he is looking passive and disengaged at times out there on the court. But it's interesting to reference 2011, particularly in the context of Wade. Wade was amazing in that series vs the Mavs when LeBron was facing his struggles. If the Heat won that series, Wade would have been Finals MVP. He was so good. Compare that version to 2013 Wade who is just a shadow of himself and has been these whole Playoffs. LeBron has had to cover an extra load these Playoffs to cover the ineffectiveness of Wade and Bosh. It would appear that it's catching up with him physically and maybe even mentally (from reading his interviews). LBJ is a generational talent but I think to an extent fans have been spoiled by LeBron and expect too much from him at times. Basketball is a team game at the end of the day and I'd posture the Heat's struggles have far more to do with the supporting cast than LeBron himself. The Spurs are just packing the paint against LeBron, Wade and Bosh and trying to get them to beat them from distance and with their supporting cast. LBJ is at 44 TS% this series; Wade and Bosh at 46 TS%. They're strategy to pack the paint is working and unless the Heat can start hitting from range or challenging the Spurs' D on the inside harder then the series could be over soon. But it's too early to fret. The pundits were speculating the other day if the Spurs could ever recover from their game two beat down. It's funny how fast the hyperbole can swing. If Wade and Bosh start to man the fuck up and LBJ can start getting a bit of rhythm with his mid-range and three game then the Heat will be right back in this series. The Spurs, Greene and Neal in particular, aren't going to shoot as consistently well as they did in game two so things should start to balance out again. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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seiferoth10
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RowdierBob
Australia13028 Posts
On June 13 2013 09:46 Ace wrote: Wade and Bosh played well in Game 2 and Lebron still struggled. Wade's also started all 3 games very well in the first half. I think them struggling have an effect on Lebron, but when they are playing well he still isn't. Something is up with him. Pure speculation, but he looks tired to me. He has had to carry too much of a load, particularly against the Pacers, and it's caught up to him. Wade just isn't the player he was (injury) and Bosh has become nothing more than a glorified spot-up shooter in the Heat offence. Shit happens sometimes (game three) but all three guys have been struggling this series. The Spurs are packing the paint and it's working. Bosh's mid-range shot has deserted him. Wade just doesn't and never has shot reliably from range and he just can't slash like he used to. Neither three are getting to the foul line as a result. In game two it was fine as Allen, Miller and Chalmers were making shots. But the Spurs are playing the odds and recognise that the Heat's 'other guys' aren't consistently good enough to get it done. Wade shot 5-13 in game two for 10 points, 6 assists and 2 boards in 30 minutes. If this is what constitutes a good game from Wade these days then the Heat are screwed. It's more than just raw numbers but there's little doubting Wade just can't perform at an elite level on offence and it's damaging the Heat. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Just for some credibility here, I also said before the end of the playoffs last year that he had his mind in the right place and had never seen him that way, so I am not just spitting nonsense, even though I have no proof. | ||
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kidleaderr
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RowdierBob
Australia13028 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13028 Posts
On June 13 2013 10:17 kidleaderr wrote: trade wade and bosh for curry imo. Ha, no chance the Dubs would do this. Curry's about as untradeable as they come at the moment.  | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 13 2013 09:46 Ace wrote: Wade and Bosh played well in Game 2 and Lebron still struggled. Wade's also started all 3 games very well in the first half. I think them struggling have an effect on Lebron, but when they are playing well he still isn't. Something is up with him. But neither of them can put up lebron esque numbers. Even though wade got a good start he still has trouble scoring anything close to 30. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On June 13 2013 08:27 Ace wrote: Leonard actually hasn't been defending Lebron at some high level. It really is just Lebron being passive. The amount of ??? in this thread after one game is amazing. I don't know. I think Kawhi has been doing about as good a job as any individual defender can against Lebron with his size and strength. Considering Lebron's size and strength advantage, I don't think you could expect anything better from Kawhi. However, I do think that it's more a factor of the Spurs' team defense against Lebron that is limiting him more than Kawhi individually. It's a combination of a great defender and a great defensive gameplan being followed and executed well by a cohesive and disciplined team. Lebron is too good to be limited to this extent by anything less. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 13 2013 10:46 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I don't know. I think Kawhi has been doing about as good a job as any individual defender can against Lebron with his size and strength. Considering Lebron's size and strength advantage, I don't think you could expect anything better from Kawhi. However, I do think that it's more a factor of the Spurs' team defense against Lebron that is limiting him more than Kawhi individually. It's a combination of a great defender and a great defensive gameplan being followed and executed well by a cohesive and disciplined team. Lebron is too good to be limited to this extent by anything less. The thing is, no defender should able to shut down a great offensive player. I'm sorry, but there's no one you can put on Lebron and single handedly get him to score 15 points on 7/21 shooting. How many times has Lebron gone up against great defensive teams over the years and how often has he been shut down completely throughout a series? Let's not pretend here that Leonard has suddenly improved miles in just one playoff series. He's a good defender, but he's not anywhere close to the best. I'm not even gonna say the Spurs defense is insanely good. I thought the Bulls and Pacers were much better in terms of team defense. It's really a culmination of things that have Lebron playing poorly. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 13 2013 10:17 kidleaderr wrote: trade wade and bosh for curry imo. right. Because the Warriors would trade their young star and franchise centerpiece for 2 aging stars with huge contracts and injury concerns. | ||
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kidleaderr
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
the Curry trade was sarcasm, lol | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
wtf is this | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
im highly inclinded to believe shaw leaning to the clippers over the nets | ||
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