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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 12 2013 14:46 GMT
#861
they're gonna mri parker's hamstring today. hopefully just soreness ...
starleague forever
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 15:14:44
June 12 2013 15:13 GMT
#862
On June 12 2013 13:15 KaiserKieran wrote:
Did you know that the team that wins the 3rd game wins the series 92.3% of the time?
I think I saw that on twitter.
Anyways leggo Tim Duncan!!!


Not sure if this was posted yet , but the other interesting piece to that stat: The team is the that lost the finals after winning game 3 was the Miami Heat team that lost to Dallas in the finals a couple years ago.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 12 2013 15:15 GMT
#863
LeBron's demons are haunting him again. I know people disagree with me, but I think the Spurs, mainly Popovich, have forced LeBron into a very uncomfortable situation. We all know he's an emotional player and a streaky shooter. He said it himself, the best way to get into rhythm is a layup or dunk. Spurs don't allow it! They crowd him if he gets a lane to drive in, they obviously studied his style which I believe led to the blocks, and Popovich even taught his players how to counter the 2 man fast break alleyoop dunk! Not only that, he isn't getting foul calls he's accustomed to. I noticed in the latter half of the game yesterday LeBron tried to force himself into Rhythm by charging the basket multiple times. He missed very doable layups and wanted the foul each time.

One thing that worked well for LeBron in the second game was him coming off the screen and roll. Not sure what happened or if it was some kind of adjustment on the part of the Spurs, but LeBron made the screen many times and called for the ball but didn't get it.

Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 12 2013 16:25 GMT
#864
To add to that a quote from Danny Green:

"LeBron is not just us stopping him. He's kind of stopped himself out there and we're getting a little lucky."

I just think that to this point Lebron is shook against this team! Hopefully he can turn it around..
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
June 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#865
It was an incredibly bitter-sweet experience watching the game last night. As a heats fan, I didn't quite have enough palms on my hands to smack my face. Seeing Mike Miller perform was awesome to see though. And then on the other side, the lights-out shooting from SA was just insane. I was actually going nuts towards the end, hoping to see a 40+ point blowout.

This matchup is really bringing to light the weaknesses of the heats. They're so dependent on a faster-paced style, but when they face a team that has really studied them, and makes defenses adjustments and plays to completely shut down their slashing and aggressive style, what the hell are they going to do?

Every points scored by the heat last night seemed like it took so much fucking effort. They would have to pull something off that looked really difficult or took a tremendous amount of effort to achieve. On the other hand, the spurs are so effective and smooth with their ball movement. They made scoring look so easy, just like they have for pretty much the entire playoffs. Great team basketball and synergy!
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:51:30
June 12 2013 16:46 GMT
#866
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron.The dude is a 6'8,250 pound human that plays 41 minutes per game at LEAST during the playoffs.Not to mention he has to be the playmaker,guard the other teams pg that's like a speedy midget compared to him,be the best rebounder on the team,score at least 20 per game,get nearly a triple double every time and not get tired or injured in the process.Take a 20 minute casual run and try to hit a couple of jumpers and see how that goes for you lol.
I'm not a lebron or miami fan but the expectations people have are simply ridic.What does the guy have to do?Jump over the whole SA team,dunk the ball every possession and run back on d?
If the heat loose there is absolutely nothing you can put on lebron,I'd rather look at some people around him first.
Cackle™
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
June 12 2013 16:50 GMT
#867
On June 13 2013 01:46 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron.The dude is a 6'8,250 pound human that plays 41 minutes per game at LEAST.Not to mention he has to be the playmaker,guard the other teams pg that's like a speedy midget compared to him,be the best rebounder on the team,score at least 20 per game,get nearly a triple double every time and not get tired or injured in the process.Take a 20 minute casual run and try to hit a couple of jumpers and see how that goes for you lol.
I'm not a lebron or miami fan but the expectations people have are simply ridic.What does the guy have to do?Jump over the whole SA team,dunk the ball every possession and run back on d?
If the heat loose there is absolutely nothing you can put on lebron,I'd rather look at some people around him first.

That sounds pretty reasonable for his salary.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 16:58:38
June 12 2013 16:52 GMT
#868
On June 13 2013 01:50 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:46 TheKefka wrote:
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron.The dude is a 6'8,250 pound human that plays 41 minutes per game at LEAST.Not to mention he has to be the playmaker,guard the other teams pg that's like a speedy midget compared to him,be the best rebounder on the team,score at least 20 per game,get nearly a triple double every time and not get tired or injured in the process.Take a 20 minute casual run and try to hit a couple of jumpers and see how that goes for you lol.
I'm not a lebron or miami fan but the expectations people have are simply ridic.What does the guy have to do?Jump over the whole SA team,dunk the ball every possession and run back on d?
If the heat loose there is absolutely nothing you can put on lebron,I'd rather look at some people around him first.

That sounds pretty reasonable for his salary.

There are other players that make the same amount of money if not even more and are not nearly the same caliber of player or have a similar impact on the game.
Also it isn't expected from them to transform wine into water.
Cackle™
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 17:58:34
June 12 2013 17:10 GMT
#869
On June 13 2013 01:52 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:50 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 13 2013 01:46 TheKefka wrote:
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron.The dude is a 6'8,250 pound human that plays 41 minutes per game at LEAST.Not to mention he has to be the playmaker,guard the other teams pg that's like a speedy midget compared to him,be the best rebounder on the team,score at least 20 per game,get nearly a triple double every time and not get tired or injured in the process.Take a 20 minute casual run and try to hit a couple of jumpers and see how that goes for you lol.
I'm not a lebron or miami fan but the expectations people have are simply ridic.What does the guy have to do?Jump over the whole SA team,dunk the ball every possession and run back on d?
If the heat loose there is absolutely nothing you can put on lebron,I'd rather look at some people around him first.

That sounds pretty reasonable for his salary.

There are other players that make the same amount of money if not even more and are not nearly the same caliber of player or have a similar impact on the game.
Also it isn't expected from them to transform wine into water.

I expect the same from them too

side note: I agree with you I was just making a joke (and I'm poor )
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 17:55:27
June 12 2013 17:48 GMT
#870
On June 13 2013 01:50 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 01:46 TheKefka wrote:
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron.The dude is a 6'8,250 pound human that plays 41 minutes per game at LEAST.Not to mention he has to be the playmaker,guard the other teams pg that's like a speedy midget compared to him,be the best rebounder on the team,score at least 20 per game,get nearly a triple double every time and not get tired or injured in the process.Take a 20 minute casual run and try to hit a couple of jumpers and see how that goes for you lol.
I'm not a lebron or miami fan but the expectations people have are simply ridic.What does the guy have to do?Jump over the whole SA team,dunk the ball every possession and run back on d?
If the heat loose there is absolutely nothing you can put on lebron,I'd rather look at some people around him first.

That sounds pretty reasonable for his salary.

He's actually really underpaid. I think like 10th or 11th highest in the league.

The Spurs definitely disrupted the hell out of Lebron (that doesn't excuse all of Wade's misses in the 2nd half) but like Spo said, they didn't lose because they could only score 77 points. They lost cause their defense was terrible. Very little effort closing out 3pt shooters and recovering after going under screens. And at least 3 or 4 times, Lebron would make a rotation to help when there was already another Heat defender in place, leaving Miller or whoever scrambling to cover his guy. It was like he was expecting a switch or for the other Heat player to screw up, but they were actually fine and he just should've stuck to his man.

It's like a defensive end caving in for a sack and losing contain instead of holding his lane. Maybe it's partially a trust issue on defense, since there were so many other plays where Green's man (often Wade) would get out of position.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 18:33:45
June 12 2013 18:31 GMT
#871
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

Let's see here... He scored 45 points on like 16/21 shots in game 6 AT BOSTON FACING elimination after a year of failure and with the media right there to criticize him had they failed to make the finals. Yeah, it's definitely the pressure.

I think the problem is that D wade is controlling the ball early on in the 1st quarter. Now, that's not bad and he's been doing well and scoring, but that doesn't allow James to get into rhythm so James is basically having the same problem wade had earlier on.

This was also kind of like back in 2011 against Dallas where James took a back seat and let Wade control things. Didn't work out either.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
June 12 2013 18:49 GMT
#872
On June 13 2013 01:46 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

I don't understand what people expect from lebron..


He's the leader of the team and has led them up to this point. He needs to score. As he said after the game:

"I've got to be able to put the ball into the basket."

He's their superstar. The way he plays affects the entire team.

"If I'm better, we're better,"

He's been doing what's expected of him up until the finals. That stat line has to be around the same if not more in the finals for the team to succeed. Great players find ways to score even when the defense is stacked against them!

I'm a big fan of his, but I'm not giving him a pass for his scoring TWICE in a row just because of his defense and distributing!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 12 2013 19:48 GMT
#873
Wade's body doesn't look like it can hold up to an 82 game season + playoffs any longer. Their role players are mostly geriatrics. Age seems like it is slowly catching up to them.

As for James, I think his passing fuels his scoring. When Miami's offense is clicking and he's able to make the right plays, he's a lethal scorer. When opponents don't have to account for his passing as much, his efficiency goes down. That said, he has been bad at boxing out on rebounds. Leonard is getting a ridiculous amount of rebounds.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
June 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#874
Tony Parker tweeted that his hamstring is strained but he hopes he can play on Thursday. Would really suck if he had to miss games/played at less than a hundred percent for the rest of this series.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 12 2013 20:25 GMT
#875
I don't think Parker has to be 100% for SA to win (obviously he won't be), but it will be tough if he can't at least be out there as a threat. If I were SA, I'd be going for broke next game.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 12 2013 21:22 GMT
#876
On June 13 2013 03:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 23:06 Scarecrow wrote:
The pressure's getting to Lebron again, open jump shots are scary when you're hyped as the best player on the planet. If you don't make them you look like a joke. He's really missing the layups that got him through the last finals.

Let's see here... He scored 45 points on like 16/21 shots in game 6 AT BOSTON FACING elimination after a year of failure and with the media right there to criticize him had they failed to make the finals. Yeah, it's definitely the pressure.

I think the problem is that D wade is controlling the ball early on in the 1st quarter. Now, that's not bad and he's been doing well and scoring, but that doesn't allow James to get into rhythm so James is basically having the same problem wade had earlier on.

This was also kind of like back in 2011 against Dallas where James took a back seat and let Wade control things. Didn't work out either.

Yeah seriously people in this thread and in general have such short memories. Where was "emotional lebron" last year then?
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 21:48:23
June 12 2013 21:43 GMT
#877
Frankly, it was embarrassing that they let it get to game 7. You're congratulating Goliath for stopping his crying to beat David?

And that argument can't go both ways. Either Lebron rose to the occasion in a major game 7 and he was a nervous wreck the in the previous losses or it was all basketball reasons.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 22:13:02
June 12 2013 22:12 GMT
#878
On June 13 2013 06:43 Jerubaal wrote:
it was all basketball reasons.

Ding-a-ling.

He clearly didn't shoot well but that happens and the Spurs have been exceptional. I was dead wrong when I said Leonard wouldn't play him as well as George. I think he's doing it better, and the Spurs are crashing around Lebron whenever he enters the paint (whereas the Pacers just left it up to Hibbard.)
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 12 2013 22:20 GMT
#879
The attention span of your average NBA fan and analyst is one game. In the ECF Miami went win-lose-win-lose-win-lose-win. After every win it was "Miami is back to playing at their peak and is about to shut out this series" and after every loss it was "Indy is looking good to pull off an upset."
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 12 2013 23:27 GMT
#880
Leonard actually hasn't been defending Lebron at some high level. It really is just Lebron being passive. The amount of ??? in this thread after one game is amazing.
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