EPTOn June 21 2013 14:14 Jibba wrote:
Someone's being murdered in the background.
Someone's being murdered in the background.
Was Aaron Hernandez in the building?
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CuSToM
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On June 21 2013 14:10 slyboogie wrote: Phil Jackson retired. Scottie Pippen was traded at his own bequest, since the Bulls had managed to royally screw him financially over 8 seasons. Jordan retired. Even Rodman was a free agent. I mean I'm all for building around Scotty Burrell and Luc Longley but there was nothing to keep there. Yes... because of a chain of events that set off because of Jerry Krause. | ||
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slyboogie
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On June 21 2013 14:15 Itsmedudeman wrote: That's what I hated though. It was all the management that fucked over one of the best teams in history. Phil Jackson shouldn't have retired then either. Jordan said it in an interview before, but that team wasn't done yet. Definitely could've accomplished more, but once it broke apart it was done for and it lead to Jordan's retirement. Well, I'm much to young to have serious critical analysis of those teams, but I was cogent enough to remember watching those games. Scottie Pippen still had tons to give, his days in Portland were proof of that. Jackson was still a championship coach and Jordan was only* 34. Still, there is a huge difference between letting a 6 time championship team ride into the sunset, when the main actors are 34 and 32 and what the Heat have right now. | ||
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slyboogie
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On June 21 2013 14:18 CuSToM wrote: Yes... because of a chain of events that set off because of Jerry Krause. Oh, you want me to compare Mickey Arison to Jerry Krause? Or are you saying the Heat will do it because the Bulls did it? | ||
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CuSToM
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On June 21 2013 14:22 slyboogie wrote: Oh, you want me to compare Mickey Arison to Jerry Krause? Or are you saying the Heat will do it because the Bulls did it? Chill out. You said it's wrong to break up a championship team and I said it happened to the Bulls. I grew up just outside of Chicago and am only old enough to remember their second three-peat, but there was definitely a negative feeling towards the franchise that summer after the last championship. Despite all he did, he's not a popular dude here in Chicago. All I'm saying is that it's happened before, not that it will happen... | ||
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slyboogie
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On June 21 2013 14:27 CuSToM wrote: Chill out. You said it's wrong to break up a championship team and I said it happened to the Bulls. I grew up just outside of Chicago and am only old enough to remember their second three-peat, but there was definitely a negative feeling towards the franchise that summer after the last championship. Despite all he did, he's not a popular dude here in Chicago. All I'm saying is that it's happened before, not that it will happen... I wasn't mad, I just didn't understand your tone - I imagine you misread mine too. I guess it's possible that Arison wants to get out from under the repeater tax but that doesn't change the fact that his biggest contracts on payroll are practically unmovable in any sort of a trade. | ||
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MassHysteria
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IF you check the last 6 years, the teams that have gotten to the Finals: 2007-10- Lakers (3 in a row) 2011- Mavericks defeat Lakers then win the ship 2012- Thunder defeat Lakers, lose to Heat 2013- Spurs defeat Lakers, lose to Heat LA still owns this bitches, we will be back =P | ||
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MassHysteria
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On June 21 2013 14:20 Jibba wrote: That's pretty fucking crazy (if true) that Lebron's had 2 weeks off since losing in 2011. It probably is true and one of the biggest reasons I would be really surprised if the Heat win it all next year. Getting to the Finals 4 times in a row is tough (teams get worn out). I have watched a few Lakers teams try and fail in my watching days. | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On_Slaught
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I guess I was just hoping for the storybook ending lol. Having the team that was built up over time beat the team that was thrown together by a bunch of people who couldn't win on their own but in the end it worked (and It will likely continue the trend of copycats meh). I was actually rooting AGAINST the Ravens to win theirs and give Lewis his storybook ending, being a 49ers fan. With this now I'm 0-2 in these legacy finals. Boo. Oh well Gratz to the Heat. They were the best team in the league this year, though next year I don't think they should be heavy favorites to win it. The West and East will both be significantly better, injury permitting (this year was wacko). I still expect the Heat to make changes in the off season. | ||
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BoZiffer
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On June 21 2013 14:42 Bayyne wrote: I hate his persona like most do, but there's no question he's currently on top by himself right now. Great great great game by LBJ, they deserved that win. Most do? Unless you live in Cleveland, you've actually moved on with your life by now and those folks in Cleveland need therapists anyway. Great season, great finals. You win basketball...you win... | ||
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RowdierBob
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Bulls, Indy, Heat. Then a big drop to the rest. Knicks I can only see regressing unless they can swing some big off-season moves. The Nets are what they are (is there a team in the NBA with a worse catalogue of bad contracts?). Atlanta would be mega if they could swing Paul and Dwight but I'll confidently call they'll both stay in LA. Celtics are irrelevant now. Bucks are lol. Philly got screwed by Bynum's injury and will probably overpay him to rehab the rest of his career. The Cavs I will admit are intriguing but I'm not sold on the players not named Kyrie on that team. The Wiz are 7th/8th seed fodder at best (people are really overrating Wall's hot streak to end the season. I'm yet convinced). The East will be better but it still has nowhere near the West's depth. Spurs, Grizz, Dubs, OKC, Nuggs, Clips, Lakers, Rox, T Wolves, Blazers, Jazz. Even the Pelicans should be pretty cool to watch next year with Davis and EJ (it's a damn shame they wasted that 10th pick on Rivers). | ||
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BoZiffer
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On June 21 2013 15:28 RowdierBob wrote: The East will be as bad as it was this year except the Bulls will be much stronger with Rose back. Bulls, Indy, Heat. Then a big drop to the rest. Knicks I can only see regressing unless they can swing some big off-season moves. The Nets are what they are (is there a team in the NBA with a worse catalogue of bad contracts?). Atlanta would be mega if they could swing Paul and Dwight but I'll confidently call they'll both stay in LA. Celtics are irrelevant now. Bucks are lol. Philly got screwed by Bynum's injury and will probably overpay him to rehab the rest of his career. The Cavs I will admit are intriguing but I'm not sold on the players not named Kyrie on that team. The Wiz are 7th/8th seed fodder at best (people are really overrating Wall's hot streak to end the season. I'm yet convinced). The East will be better but it still has nowhere near the West's depth. Spurs, Grizz, Dubs, OKC, Nuggs, Clips, Lakers, Rox, T Wolves, Blazers, Jazz. Even the Pelicans should be pretty cool to watch next year with Davis and EJ (it's a damn shame they wasted that 10th pick on Rivers). Honestly, its way too early to even understand what next season is going to look like. Have to wait until free agency sorts this stuff out. I mean, take Utah for example, if Jefferson/Millsap are moved that team looks completely different. Just have wait to let it sort... | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
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On June 21 2013 15:28 RowdierBob wrote: The East will be as bad as it was this year except the Bulls will be much stronger with Rose back. Bulls, Indy, Heat. Then a big drop to the rest. Knicks I can only see regressing unless they can swing some big off-season moves. The Nets are what they are (is there a team in the NBA with a worse catalogue of bad contracts?). Atlanta would be mega if they could swing Paul and Dwight but I'll confidently call they'll both stay in LA. Celtics are irrelevant now. Bucks are lol. Philly got screwed by Bynum's injury and will probably overpay him to rehab the rest of his career. The Cavs I will admit are intriguing but I'm not sold on the players not named Kyrie on that team. The Wiz are 7th/8th seed fodder at best (people are really overrating Wall's hot streak to end the season. I'm yet convinced). The East will be better but it still has nowhere near the West's depth. Spurs, Grizz, Dubs, OKC, Nuggs, Clips, Lakers, Rox, T Wolves, Blazers, Jazz. Even the Pelicans should be pretty cool to watch next year with Davis and EJ (it's a damn shame they wasted that 10th pick on Rivers). Going to have to agree with this. The East may be better than this season, but that's not saying much at all. The Bulls should be better, but Thibs really needs to figure out how to pace his players better and not run them to the ground like he has been. That team may never reach its potential if they can never stay healthy. The Pacers should continue to be a rising powerhouse, and it'll be interesting to see what they do with Granger. I don't see how the Knicks can significantly improve next season because they don't really have any rising or improving players and don't have the type of appeal or financial flexibility to improve much via FAs. The Nets are a mess with no flexibility to pull of any significant moves. The Wizards will likely remain a lower tiered playoff team. The rest are negligible barring some ridiculous moves by the Hawks. The West will, again, be much more interesting and filled with good teams. I'm really excited to see how it all shakes out in the Western Conference next season. | ||
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