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Champions League/Europa League Thread 2012-13 - Page 76
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:04 Liquid`Drone wrote: meh I have a really hard time picturing non-bayern barcelona real madrid ending up winning i mean yea juve dortmund psg can do it especially if you get like juve malaga dortmund galatasaray as one side of the bracket and real barca bayern psg in the other. because then it'll just be a single deciding match. I guess I basically definitely can't picture barcelona or real madrid losing quarter or semi finals vs anyone but barcelona bayern or real madrid. Did you see them losing 2-0 to Milan, T he Bayern Arsenal game was so shit. Arsenal werent really that good, they were clinical to some degree but they didnt play amazing, Bayern will want to forget this one fast. It really just takes an off day to put a weaker team than you ahead in a tie, then they just have to hold on. I think Juve and Dortmund have some chops to be honest. Ive seen a fair bit of Juve this year and they dont have some of the brilliance the Juve a decade ago had but they are incredibly solid. Dortmund is a bit of a lottery. The other teams I wouldnt give to many creds, but that would mostly because i havent seen much of them. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:21 sc4k wrote: Juve have a pretty nice defence I think, 19 goals against so far this season, not bad at all. Very good compared to Barca's 30 against. I would be pleased to see either them or Dortmund get into the final. I have a sneaky suspicion Real will win it, and Jose will turn out to have already contracted to leave...ie what happened in Inter! im hoping for a real - bvb semifinals. their group matches were so intense. then the winner of that in the finals against bayern. btw guess who only conceded 10 goals in their league all season long? correct, bayern munich. the same time that conceded 2 at home against an arsenal that wasnt even having a great night. the same bayern munich that played like total shit and almost gave away an unlosable advantage tonight. as barca's fail at milan and bayerns fail tonight have shown, every team can get eliminated or be on the brink of elimination if they have just one single bad night. imho a lot will depend on the pairings. as liquid'drone said, if the "weaker" teams all cluster up on one side of the bracket, while the "stronger" teams have to eliminate each other on the other side, then it can easily come down to one single game/night. my bet for the semifinals is real - bayern (because we havent had enough of that in EC history...) and bvb - barca. but juve and psg are also strong sides that shouldnt be underestimated. gala and malaga wont survive the quarters unless they play each other. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On March 14 2013 08:48 Rebs wrote: People were saying that after the loss yes, you can go back a few pages.. lol I agree though its completely open, thats why its the CL. People said they didn't have a chance in the 2nd leg because they went 0-2 in the first leg while away. That's different than saying that they have no chance in the next leg because that performance happened. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Europa League RO16 Day 2! 2nd Leg 14th March ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/64388.png) Viktoria Plzeň vs Fenerbahçe![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/52692.png) Kick Off - 20:05 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Viktoria Plzeň 0-1 Fenerbahçe+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Viktoria Plzeň TBA Fenerbahçe+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/50147.png) Benfica vs Bordeaux![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/50127.png) Kick Off - 20:05 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Benfica 1-0 Bordeaux+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Benfica TBA Bordeaux+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/75050.png) Anzhi Makhachkala vs Newcastle United![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/59324.png) Kick Off - 20:05 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Anzhi Makhachkala 0-0 Newcastle United+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Anzhi Makhachkala TBA Newcastle United+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/50107.png) Stuttgart vs Lazio![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/52973.png) Kick Off - 20:05 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Stuttgart 0-2 Lazio+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Stuttgart TBA Lazio+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/1652.png) Tottenham Hotspur vs Inter Milan![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/50138.png) Kick Off - 18:00 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Tottenham Hotspur 3-0 Inter Milan+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Tottenham Hotspur TBA Inter Milan+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/87959.png) Levante vs Rubin Kazan![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/82818.png) Kick Off - 17:00 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Levante 0-0 Rubin Kazan+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Levante TBA Rubin Kazan+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/59856.png) Basel vs Zenit St. Petersburg![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/52826.png) Kick Off - 17:00 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Basel 2-0 Zenit St. Petersburg+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Basel TBA Zenit St. Petersburg+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + ![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/50065.png) Steaua București vs Chelsea![[image loading]](http://www.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/32x32/52914.png) Kick Off - 20:05 GMT (+00:00) + Show Spoiler [1st Leg] + Steaua București 1-0 Chelsea+ Show Spoiler [2nd Leg Result!] + Steaua București TBA Chelsea+ Show Spoiler [Overall Result!] + | ||
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Ratch!
Peru258 Posts
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hns
Germany609 Posts
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vanatir
Germany355 Posts
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Aceace
Turkey1305 Posts
They hope to draw against Gala and Gala fans hope to draw against Malaga. This way 1 team continue living the dream. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
Lovely video imo. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On March 14 2013 18:10 Ratch! wrote: Everyone is forgetting how Chelsea was never a candidate for last year's winner of the CL. This is football we are talking, and maybe PSG or Malaga could give us a nice surprise. I could see maybe PSG doing it, but not Malaga. Chelsea were underdogs, but they weren't some 20 million pound team, they had world class players at nearly every position. Drogba and Cech went god mode on their run, and they had quite a few great players, like Mata, Lampard, and Cole. PSG at least has Zlatan, Lavezzi, etc. Edit: No disrespect to Malaga. It's quite impressive that they are in the quarterfinals and they obviously have several quality players to get this far. I just don't know anyone on their team except Isco. I should really pay more attention to La Liga. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
Wow, that reflects the dangerous development the EPL is going through. If they don't pay attention they will fall behind | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 14 2013 20:42 MapleLeafSirup wrote: No premier league club in the quarters? Wow, that reflects the dangerous development the EPL is going through. If they don't pay attention they will fall behind Don't think it's quite that bad Chelsea were unlucky not to qualify for the last 16 with their points total, many other group runners up and even some winners of groups didn't have the points tally we had (11) Man Utd were unlucky vs Real Madrid too and well Arsenal reserves last night showed their better than the first team xD The only winners this season in the champions league in terms of points are; Spain Turkey Spain due to having 3 teams in the last 8 for the first time since 2002-2003 season. and Turkey for having their team in the knock out stages for 11 years! (back in 2001-2002 Galatasaray got the round 2 group phase of the champions league) They are the only winners with points this round as it is normally 1 German team, 1 italian, 2 Spanish 1 French team that always make up the last 8 and normally an English team. The other 2 countries are either another English/German or a few teams that do well for that one season. Or even Porto/Benfica | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:03 Black Gun wrote: im hoping for a real - bvb semifinals. their group matches were so intense. then the winner of that in the finals against bayern. btw guess who only conceded 10 goals in their league all season long? correct, bayern munich. the same time that conceded 2 at home against an arsenal that wasnt even having a great night. the same bayern munich that played like total shit and almost gave away an unlosable advantage tonight. Hmm good point. Although I usually consider the Italian league to be a tougher league, I guess recently the German teams at the top have all been good, and Bayern's dominance is very special. They do deserve another whack at the big prize methinks. Maybe Bayern v Real. On March 14 2013 20:42 MapleLeafSirup wrote: No premier league club in the quarters? Wow, that reflects the dangerous development the EPL is going through. If they don't pay attention they will fall behind Meh, so much money is about to come into the premier league it's almost silly. 3 billion over three years. A 70% increase on the already high rates. That's the new deal for all the TV rights. 3,000,000,000 million pounds. POUNDS. Sterling!!! Regardless of how shite some of the teams are performing in Europe, when the clubs are able to really open up their budgets to unprecedented levels we will see what becomes of the EPL >  | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28913 Posts
On March 14 2013 09:17 Rebs wrote: Did you see them losing 2-0 to Milan, T he Bayern Arsenal game was so shit. Arsenal werent really that good, they were clinical to some degree but they didnt play amazing, Bayern will want to forget this one fast. It really just takes an off day to put a weaker team than you ahead in a tie, then they just have to hold on. I think Juve and Dortmund have some chops to be honest. Ive seen a fair bit of Juve this year and they dont have some of the brilliance the Juve a decade ago had but they are incredibly solid. Dortmund is a bit of a lottery. The other teams I wouldnt give to many creds, but that would mostly because i havent seen much of them. didn't see them losing 2-0 to milan, but I did say that I thought the match was now basically even after they had lost the first one 2-0. I do guess juventus and dortmund have better chances than I granted them with in my previous post but well.. I think real right now is significantly better than they were during group stage, barcelona is looking stellar, and yesterday's game was one of the only off-days bayern has had all season. luck is a huge factor, absolutely. but especially the two spanish teams are looking really dominant. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
On March 14 2013 21:13 sc4k wrote: Hmm good point. Although I usually consider the Italian league to be a tougher league, I guess recently the German teams at the top have all been good, and Bayern's dominance is very special. They do deserve another whack at the big prize methinks. Maybe Bayern v Real. Meh, so much money is about to come into the premier league it's almost silly. 3 billion over three years. A 70% increase on the already high rates. That's the new deal for all the TV rights. 3,000,000,000 million pounds. POUNDS. Sterling!!! Regardless of how shite some of the teams are performing in Europe, when the clubs are able to really open up their budgets to unprecedented levels we will see what becomes of the EPL > Yea that's the problem in the EPL. MONEY MONEY MONEY. It is getting out of hand. Some teams just let themselves get overtaken by a rich sheikh who just spills around his money like he wants to. Where is the heart and the soul of these teams? How can you as a fan identify with your favorite club if it is not the club anymore but just some rich guy who likes to play around a little bit? And then he just buys mercenaries from abroad who are supposed to bring him the success ASAP but don't really give a damn about their team. And if it is not working, their obvious solution is just even more money. Look at the teams like Barcelona, Bayern, Dortmund .... a lot of their players are homegrown players who identify with their city and their team and are willing to stay their whole career. These teams rise up their own talents and some of them make it into the first team where they are motivated on a completely different level than mercenaries who switch their team every 2 years anyways. On a sidenote, the English national team is also suffering a lot from their teams preferring exepensive players from abroad over own talents. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
Especially Juventus because Fatih Terim knows Italian's football style. | ||
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
People enjoy watching the best players, and they enjoy following epic rivalries. It's only possible to have the best players when you have a lot of money. Hence, the ideal scenario for football as a sport is to have a lot of money concentrated in one or two leagues, ie. La Liga and the Premiership. And still, I think it's a major waste of talent to have Messi and Ronaldo play against crappy spanish teams in over 50% of their games. No one watches the french or german leagues outside of the respective countries because there's not enough money in those leagues, too many crappy teams, and they're too competitive. Yes, competition is bad. Fans like to follow winners, and they can't be changing teams every other year. Having around 4 clubs that can compete for the title every year is probably the best scenario. Having just one is a borefest. Having 8-10 different teams competing to win the championship every year is a mess. | ||
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