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Champions League/Europa League Thread 2012-13 - Page 21

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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
November 08 2012 17:51 GMT
#401
Tiki-Taka is just as much a defensive tactic as it is an offensive one, Real both scored more goals and conceded more goals than Barcelona in each of the last two seasons.

This season Barcelona conceded way more goals per game than usual, meaning they have become more vulnerable in defense, so that's certainly a problem. Celtic scored 3 goals against them in the two games, that's way too much.

And concerning the 5 shots on target by Celtic: A good defense does not only reduce the quantity of the opponent's goal attempts, but also their quality.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 08 2012 17:52 GMT
#402
On November 08 2012 22:17 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 21:35 Telcontar wrote:
On November 08 2012 20:19 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
On November 08 2012 09:09 Denzil wrote:
Yes nobody is saying Barcelona are awful to watch


Barca isn't entertaining to watch.
Nice seeing Celtic do well.

Sad to see Shakhtar lose to Chelsea, I'm hoping Chelsea drops out at the group stage ^^
Less Premier League and La Liga this time for the yay's, more different kinds of teams and shit.

Malaga can do well, because it's my favourite Spanish team.

It's cool to be hip, isn't it? lol


That's the response I got the last two times I said that on TL.

Honestly, the last time they were fun to watch was around 06-07. I even like Real Madrid games more these days, and Reals got all the most annoying players even. Why is it not okay to criticize Tiki-Taka for what it is.


Don't force yourself. Embrace the ridiculous statement you make and wear it like an armband. Such is the pride of a hipster.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 18:33:19
November 08 2012 18:28 GMT
#403
Been watching Barcelona a lot recently. Their record looks decent this year but I think clutch performances have been hiding a lot of weakness, pretty much entirely in defense. And their play is a little stubborn and not adjusting to that weakness that well. Other than Puyol obviously, I think they really miss Abidal who held a lot of things together.

But I think one of the major adjustments is just to play a little more conservatively for most of the game. They aren't struggling cause teams are holding them to 0-0 right now, they are struggling cause they are falling behind in tons of games. They don't need to be pushing 8 people forward from the start, they are good enough to keep control and possession offensively without needing that kind of numbers, and then you aren't leaving a defense of Mascherano and Bartra so exposed.

It also might get other teams not sitting back so much, entice them out a little, and once they do that Barcelona becomes a huge favorite to score. And if they don't do that, then you can increase the pressure as you go, instead of leaving your defense mostly exposed for almost 90 minutes. I don't think offensive stubbornness is really a problem, other teams still wish they could create nearly as many chances. But they stubbornly refuse to adjust to what they have defensively.

If they want to play like they are now, they really need at least one more strong, fast and preferably tall athletic defender.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18415 Posts
November 08 2012 18:43 GMT
#404
what I dont understand is why barca keep playing short corners, sure putting the ball into the box would be just stupid because 8+ defenders are in the box but why not just cross the ball to the other side of the field?

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 19:08:57
November 08 2012 19:07 GMT
#405
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18415 Posts
November 08 2012 19:16 GMT
#406
On November 09 2012 04:07 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.


those are panicked shots because they were behind

they need to do this even if they lead or when its 0-0, they are not used to it, celtic had all of their shots on target, barca almost missed half
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 19:27:09
November 08 2012 19:25 GMT
#407
On November 09 2012 04:16 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.


those are panicked shots because they were behind

they need to do this even if they lead or when its 0-0, they are not used to it, celtic had all of their shots on target, barca almost missed half


Exactly half of them were terrible shots. Why do they need to take panicked shots when they are even ? I dont see what the point is here.

They take just as many decent shots as they take bad ones mind you. It still playing a harder to win lottery. Real competitors dont bet on lotteries.

The only reasons celtics shots are on target is because those are guilt edged. There is no reasont they wouldnt be.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18415 Posts
November 08 2012 19:26 GMT
#408
On November 09 2012 04:25 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 04:16 sharkie wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.


those are panicked shots because they were behind

they need to do this even if they lead or when its 0-0, they are not used to it, celtic had all of their shots on target, barca almost missed half


Exactly they were terrible shots. Why do they need to take panicked shots when they are even ? I dont see what the point is here.


They need to shoot when they are even. Not panicked shots, but well thought of ones.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 08 2012 19:28 GMT
#409
On November 09 2012 04:26 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 04:25 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:16 sharkie wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.


those are panicked shots because they were behind

they need to do this even if they lead or when its 0-0, they are not used to it, celtic had all of their shots on target, barca almost missed half


Exactly they were terrible shots. Why do they need to take panicked shots when they are even ? I dont see what the point is here.


They need to shoot when they are even. Not panicked shots, but well thought of ones.


Theres tons of well though out ones. You clearly havent seen more than a Classico this season if you are going to sit here and tell me that.


Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
November 08 2012 19:57 GMT
#410
--- Nuked ---
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 20:04:47
November 08 2012 20:04 GMT
#411
On November 09 2012 04:57 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2012 04:26 sharkie wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:25 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:16 sharkie wrote:
On November 09 2012 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 09 2012 03:43 sharkie wrote:

almost all defenders are in the box, barca always have free players around the box but never try to use them to shoot.



On November 08 2012 23:36 mememolly wrote:
[image loading]

rofl, football is strange sometimes



yawnn..

And yes their defense as it is now is pretty lousy for their style of play, its not going to cover for them throwing their entire lineup in the opponents half not without the big 2 or adequate replacements.


those are panicked shots because they were behind

they need to do this even if they lead or when its 0-0, they are not used to it, celtic had all of their shots on target, barca almost missed half


Exactly they were terrible shots. Why do they need to take panicked shots when they are even ? I dont see what the point is here.


They need to shoot when they are even. Not panicked shots, but well thought of ones.

Don't argue with Rebs, they're only capable of insufferable fanboyism




Pot calling the kettle black. O so black..


+ Show Spoiler +
troll.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 20:23:32
November 21 2012 20:23 GMT
#412
Götze and Reus. That Germany has young players like these two makes me so happy

(Won't solve the problems in our national teams defence though)
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
November 21 2012 20:56 GMT
#413
Haha nice dive Götze :p
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
November 21 2012 21:00 GMT
#414
On November 22 2012 05:23 Malinor wrote:
Götze and Reus. That Germany has young players like these two makes me so happy

(Won't solve the problems in our national teams defence though)


yeah götze is going to be world class later, at least he is in football manager XD anyways the man city defense is so bad.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 21 2012 21:06 GMT
#415
ohh shittt. That was sweet volley from Poldi.. RVP who ? :p
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
November 21 2012 21:08 GMT
#416
fuck yes dortmund
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 21:11:10
November 21 2012 21:10 GMT
#417
Sounds like Kompany is having a great game. All I hear from the commentator is "Madrid?" "No Kompany" lol
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 21:15:51
November 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#418
arbeloa out

penalty to city


aguero scores

ace hwaiting!!
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
November 21 2012 21:21 GMT
#419
On November 22 2012 06:15 soujiro_ wrote:
arbeloa out

penalty to city


aguero scores



Hoping for a tie or a loss for Madrid there. Dortmund would be 1st then =)
But does it djent?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
November 21 2012 21:38 GMT
#420
City so much luck at getting penalties at home in champs league? Lol such a joke.

Oh well there out, gj Real, Ronaldo was getting raped all game and ref was shocking. GG
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