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howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 18 2013 20:30 GMT
#3881
On May 16 2013 22:39 Pandemona wrote:
Oh fair enough xD
Still was a good game! Would you be happy if Jorge Jesus was sacked btw? Or do you think he deserves to continue ?


I think he needs to continue but he really needs to be kept on a shorter leash, he can't go around and piss championships away anymore, there have been too much situations like this in the past few years.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 10:40:38
May 20 2013 10:10 GMT
#3882


Italian Nicola Rizzoli to referee Champions League final between Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munich.



Italian gets the nod for Wembley, bit sad it's not Howard Webb but oh well. Random Italian gets the gig!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 20 2013 10:38 GMT
#3883


Champions League FINAL!!!

Location: London, England - Wembley Stadium
Date: 25th May 2013
Kick Off Time 18:45 GMT (+00:00)


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MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
May 20 2013 20:00 GMT
#3884
time for the big boys
Aegon I
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 20:57:08
May 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3885
prediction:

Dortmund 1-1 Bayern

Extra time: 1-1

Penalty 5-6

Bayern wins.
"His silvery hair was blowing in the wind, and his eyes were a deep purple, darker than this boy's"
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 22 2013 14:11 GMT
#3886
Götze has been ruled out for the CL-Final. Looks like his injury came back in yesterdays practice.

Wondering now how we start, Will we use a 4-3-3 ? Will Gündogan start as CAM? Will Großkreutz play LM and Reus in the middle? Guess we will have to wait and see.

I would like a 4-3-3 with Sahin/Bender(or Kehl)/Gündogan - Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba, if Klopp's gettin that to work, it may be an option.
But does it djent?
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 14:27:59
May 22 2013 14:26 GMT
#3887
On May 22 2013 23:11 Da-Muffinman wrote:
Götze has been ruled out for the CL-Final. Looks like his injury came back in yesterdays practice.

Wondering now how we start, Will we use a 4-3-3 ? Will Gündogan start as CAM? Will Großkreutz play LM and Reus in the middle? Guess we will have to wait and see.

I would like a 4-3-3 with Sahin/Bender(or Kehl)/Gündogan - Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba, if Klopp's gettin that to work, it may be an option.


I doubt we'll see something like that. My preferred option would be Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba behind Bakalorz or Bajner just to surprise everybody. But Großkreutz/Reus/Kuba seems more likely behind Lewa and I think Großkreutz might be better suited for the match than Götze. What he lacks in technical skills is absolutely meaningless in his will and spirit to fight and we're gonna need that.
Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 22 2013 14:31 GMT
#3888
I think this could be a good thing for the team. Judas was out of the team when the accepted his new contract. Großkreutz deserves it so much more to play.
Klopp will find a good lineup to stop the Bayern Wingers.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 22 2013 21:05 GMT
#3889
gundogan as a 10 with kehl alongside bender at 6 would be sexy
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 22 2013 21:07 GMT
#3890
But Kehl/Bender as double 6 would be too vulnerable for Bayerns pressing I think
But does it djent?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 21:22:06
May 22 2013 21:21 GMT
#3891
On May 16 2013 06:18 Pandemona wrote:


Also if it is Bayern who win...Possible Mourinho vs Pep in the Super Cup ^_^

more importantly, it would be a bayern vs chelsea grudge match. if this really happens, we will see chelsea's anuses obliterated from all the divine rape. 8:0 incoming.

but first bayern has to beat dortmund, which will be the most important game of the season (obviously )
but tbh Im really nervous. even the thought of losing that final against dortmund makes me cringe. the fantastic season and the fantastic revenge storyline would all go to waste in one single game.... and, see above, it would rob us off the chance for revenge against chelsea.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Purpose88
Profile Joined May 2013
Germany137 Posts
May 23 2013 00:18 GMT
#3892
On May 23 2013 06:05 sixfour wrote:
gundogan as a 10 with kehl alongside bender at 6 would be sexy


You clearly don't have any idea how Dortmund plays. We always play one DEFENSIVE Midfielder (Bender or Kehl) together with a Central Midfielder (Nuri or Gündogan).
If I had to bet right now:


Kevin--------Reus--------Kuba

-------Bender---Gündogan----
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 12:46:37
May 23 2013 12:46 GMT
#3893
I'm cheering for Dortmund, but I have to admit that Bayern would make a wonderful champion. As a Barca fan, I think that Bayern winning would be a good thing for us, as it would (probably) reduce their hunger for titles that makes them so difficult to play recently...
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 13:11:10
May 23 2013 13:03 GMT
#3894
On May 23 2013 09:18 Purpose88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 06:05 sixfour wrote:
gundogan as a 10 with kehl alongside bender at 6 would be sexy


You clearly don't have any idea how Dortmund plays. We always play one DEFENSIVE Midfielder (Bender or Kehl) together with a Central Midfielder (Nuri or Gündogan).
If I had to bet right now:


Kevin--------Reus--------Kuba

-------Bender---Gündogan----


In important CL games they play more of a 4-3-2-1 with Blacykowski playing a more defensive role. In Bundesliga they would most likely play this way but at the final i´m seeing them playing with Bender and Kehl/Sahin because Klopp knows that their chances gets down drastically if Bayern scores the 1:0.

And Groskreuz is by far not the offensive threat as Götze is in the transitional game. With him on the left wing/left center Lahm and Robben will have to much freedom offensively.

I think Bayern will take this 2:0. Cl finals are not the kind of "back and forth" game that Dortmund is best, it´s more about safety, pass protection, individual errors and who will dominate the midfield. And at midfield domination there is no better dou then Schweinsteiger/Martinez right now. Yes Bender and Gündogan are good but what especially Martinez did against was just inhuman.

I doubt we'll see something like that. My preferred option would be Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba behind Bakalorz or Bajner just to surprise everybody. But Großkreutz/Reus/Kuba seems more likely behind Lewa and I think Großkreutz might be better suited for the match than Götze. What he lacks in technical skills is absolutely meaningless in his will and spirit to fight and we're gonna need that.


Spirit of fighting dont win Champions Leagues. Its either won by a far superior team (see barca the last 5 years) or by the smarter team (see Inter/Chelsea)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 24 2013 03:33 GMT
#3895
On May 23 2013 22:03 USvBleakill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:18 Purpose88 wrote:
On May 23 2013 06:05 sixfour wrote:
gundogan as a 10 with kehl alongside bender at 6 would be sexy


You clearly don't have any idea how Dortmund plays. We always play one DEFENSIVE Midfielder (Bender or Kehl) together with a Central Midfielder (Nuri or Gündogan).
If I had to bet right now:


Kevin--------Reus--------Kuba

-------Bender---Gündogan----


In important CL games they play more of a 4-3-2-1 with Blacykowski playing a more defensive role. In Bundesliga they would most likely play this way but at the final i´m seeing them playing with Bender and Kehl/Sahin because Klopp knows that their chances gets down drastically if Bayern scores the 1:0.

And Groskreuz is by far not the offensive threat as Götze is in the transitional game. With him on the left wing/left center Lahm and Robben will have to much freedom offensively.

I think Bayern will take this 2:0. Cl finals are not the kind of "back and forth" game that Dortmund is best, it´s more about safety, pass protection, individual errors and who will dominate the midfield. And at midfield domination there is no better dou then Schweinsteiger/Martinez right now. Yes Bender and Gündogan are good but what especially Martinez did against was just inhuman.

Show nested quote +
I doubt we'll see something like that. My preferred option would be Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba behind Bakalorz or Bajner just to surprise everybody. But Großkreutz/Reus/Kuba seems more likely behind Lewa and I think Großkreutz might be better suited for the match than Götze. What he lacks in technical skills is absolutely meaningless in his will and spirit to fight and we're gonna need that.


Spirit of fighting dont win Champions Leagues. Its either won by a far superior team (see barca the last 5 years) or by the smarter team (see Inter/Chelsea)


What? Fight is literally the only thing that carried Chelsea to the title last year.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 24 2013 04:17 GMT
#3896
On May 24 2013 12:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 22:03 USvBleakill wrote:
On May 23 2013 09:18 Purpose88 wrote:
On May 23 2013 06:05 sixfour wrote:
gundogan as a 10 with kehl alongside bender at 6 would be sexy


You clearly don't have any idea how Dortmund plays. We always play one DEFENSIVE Midfielder (Bender or Kehl) together with a Central Midfielder (Nuri or Gündogan).
If I had to bet right now:


Kevin--------Reus--------Kuba

-------Bender---Gündogan----


In important CL games they play more of a 4-3-2-1 with Blacykowski playing a more defensive role. In Bundesliga they would most likely play this way but at the final i´m seeing them playing with Bender and Kehl/Sahin because Klopp knows that their chances gets down drastically if Bayern scores the 1:0.

And Groskreuz is by far not the offensive threat as Götze is in the transitional game. With him on the left wing/left center Lahm and Robben will have to much freedom offensively.

I think Bayern will take this 2:0. Cl finals are not the kind of "back and forth" game that Dortmund is best, it´s more about safety, pass protection, individual errors and who will dominate the midfield. And at midfield domination there is no better dou then Schweinsteiger/Martinez right now. Yes Bender and Gündogan are good but what especially Martinez did against was just inhuman.

I doubt we'll see something like that. My preferred option would be Reus/Lewandowski/Kuba behind Bakalorz or Bajner just to surprise everybody. But Großkreutz/Reus/Kuba seems more likely behind Lewa and I think Großkreutz might be better suited for the match than Götze. What he lacks in technical skills is absolutely meaningless in his will and spirit to fight and we're gonna need that.


Spirit of fighting dont win Champions Leagues. Its either won by a far superior team (see barca the last 5 years) or by the smarter team (see Inter/Chelsea)


What? Fight is literally the only thing that carried Chelsea to the title last year.
actually it was more barca's and bayern's inaptitude in front of the goal than chelsea's fighting spirit that allowed them to win the title.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
May 24 2013 09:20 GMT
#3897
Well I guess we all agree that Chelsea were the most undeserving champions of all time (skill-wise).
But as Black Gun pointed out, Barca and Bayern just couldn't capitalize on their dominance over Chelsea. So as far as the games went, Bayern and Barca didn't deserve it either so you cannot really say that Chelsea's win was undeserving. It is more like nobody really deserved it or everyone of them
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#3898
Chelsea defended well in the whole run as well. We scored goals when we needed too. Don't forget after the "dominance" of the final from Bayern in their backyard, they scored in the 77th minute. Not only did Chelsea manage to hold on, but they scored. A good goal as well. Not many more powerful headers will ever been seen other than that Drogba one.

Then you go back to the Barca games, both legs Chelsea were under fire, but name me a side that isn't ? This year Bayern played Barca, they won comfortably yes? But they didn't have the most possession, both legs they were 60-40% possession to Barca. The same with Chelsea at home, we didn't have the possession, but in the home leg apart from the last 15minutes when they actually did look like scoring at will, Chelsea were defending well. We also still hold the record of never having conceded a goal from Messi xD
Then the 2nd leg we only got dominated as badly due to being down to 10 men from withing the first 25minutes. We weren't looking "major" strugglers then. Yes we didn't have the possession but who does vs Barca! We still managed to score 2 goals in the Nou Camp with 10 men! Says alot if you ask me

But still, people will call it "luck" ^_^
No one says of the luck Liverpool had when they won it in 2005, justs an "amazing" comeback. No one talks about the 100 chances Shevchenko missed, and also the last penalty. Just of the "legends" of Scouseland lol

But still lets let Bayern and Dortmund have their time in the sun, they have deserved it this year
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 24 2013 10:14 GMT
#3899
Nobody, not even barca 2011 won ever a Champions League without a little bit of luck. It´s part of the game and part of the CL format.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
May 24 2013 10:40 GMT
#3900
Depends on how you define luck.
I rarely speak of luck, even not when you hit the post ten times in a game.
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