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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 16 2013 10:12 GMT
#3861
On May 16 2013 18:53 Ethi wrote:
This other final is out of the way, it's time to get excited for the BIG game


For me domestic finals are a real disappointment. We already saw this game a couple of weeks ago. I would hope Dortmund win but I actually really want Bayern to - they deserve it after last year, and Heynkes winning the treble and then being forced out to make way for the great Pep would be hilariously glorious for him.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 16 2013 10:12 GMT
#3862
Guttman's curse strikes again! What is that, 7 straight finals losses for Benfica?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2013 10:12 GMT
#3863
German final is week away
Lets bask in the glory of Chelsea. Who currently hold both UEFA Championships
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 16 2013 10:13 GMT
#3864
On May 16 2013 18:35 EchoZ wrote:
Got mah graduation dinner on the 23rd and then flying off to England for the CL finals XDDDDD

Go Dortmund!

From China?
Really cool, have fun.
Off-season = best season
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
May 16 2013 10:18 GMT
#3865
On May 16 2013 19:12 Telcontar wrote:
Guttman's curse strikes again! What is that, 7 straight finals losses for Benfica?

Yep.


Hoping for Bayern to win so that at least Benfica can be on Pot 1 of the CL next year.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2013 10:32 GMT
#3866
On May 16 2013 19:18 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:12 Telcontar wrote:
Guttman's curse strikes again! What is that, 7 straight finals losses for Benfica?

Yep.


Hoping for Bayern to win so that at least Benfica can be on Pot 1 of the CL next year.


Was a GG Mr Warding
You played so well in the first half, but wtf why did you try to pass it into the net? So many occasions you could of worked Petr Cech but choose to play an extra pass or in some occasions an extra 2!
Also my Benfica mate who watched it with me says he prefers Lima to Cardoza, who do you prefer? He is also not to unhappy they lost as now Jorge Jesus might get sacked. He doesn't seem to like him after they went to Porto to just /defend! Said it was similar last year? xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
May 16 2013 11:25 GMT
#3867
itd be the second time Heynckes wins the CL as a trainer, then has to leave in the same season..

anyways, great storylines for this final. Dortmund has humiliated Bayern alot during the last years
and if they win this time again, bayern wont be feeling good about this season even if they go 1 1 2.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 16 2013 11:32 GMT
#3868
On May 16 2013 19:32 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 19:18 warding wrote:
On May 16 2013 19:12 Telcontar wrote:
Guttman's curse strikes again! What is that, 7 straight finals losses for Benfica?

Yep.


Hoping for Bayern to win so that at least Benfica can be on Pot 1 of the CL next year.


Was a GG Mr Warding
You played so well in the first half, but wtf why did you try to pass it into the net? So many occasions you could of worked Petr Cech but choose to play an extra pass or in some occasions an extra 2!
Also my Benfica mate who watched it with me says he prefers Lima to Cardoza, who do you prefer? He is also not to unhappy they lost as now Jorge Jesus might get sacked. He doesn't seem to like him after they went to Porto to just /defend! Said it was similar last year? xD


Cardozo is a much better finisher. He's kinda limited in what he can do but if he's left alone in front of the goalie he's one of the most dangerous strikers out there.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2013 11:34 GMT
#3869
But hasn't Lima scored more than him this year? 28goals Lima has and didnt Cardoza have 26 before the penalty?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 11:54:25
May 16 2013 11:54 GMT
#3870
By the way did anyone see this 'godly' outfit xD

[image loading]

The Benfica pope...sponsored by Adidas
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 16 2013 13:18 GMT
#3871
On May 16 2013 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
But hasn't Lima scored more than him this year? 28goals Lima has and didnt Cardoza have 26 before the penalty?


Nah, Lima is the 2nd best scorer of the team, I'm positive about that though I don't know exactly how many goals he has scored.

@sc4k yeah we have some regular characters in our games lol, that's one of the most recent ones.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2013 13:39 GMT
#3872
Oh fair enough xD
Still was a good game! Would you be happy if Jorge Jesus was sacked btw? Or do you think he deserves to continue ?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 16:19:49
May 16 2013 16:17 GMT
#3873
On May 16 2013 07:56 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 06:21 Pandemona wrote:

Europa League Final!!
Wednesday May 15th, Amsterdam Arena, Amsterdam Holland!
Kick Off 18:45 GMT (+00:00)


[image loading][image loading]Benfica vs Chelsea [image loading][image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading][image loading]Benfica 1 2 Chelsea [image loading][image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Champions!] +

CHELSEA FC!!!!!!



hahahahaahahaha I love this. Just to make sure everyone knows :D

On Torres...I really don't think he's worth anything like 50 million, but he does actually work quite hard and he gets some bad breaks, he has more than a little bit of skill. I would value him around 15 million I think, he can definitely perform but he is no Van Persie or Suarez is he! Incidentally I think his better position would be playing off another striker or even as a 'trequartista' attacking midfielder.

I would still rather keep him although if another striker turned up and another club made a legit offer, perhaps letting him go would make sense. If we continue to play with 3 attacking mids, it's going to be unlikely we will play with 2 strikers. But if we do, 4 strikers in the squad makes sense. Like I say I'd happily take Wilfried Bony plus the other 3 (including Lukaku) so we can play Man City style, but if we get Falcao/Cavani maybe it would be better to have 3 strikers so they don't get too bothered ego-wise.


O comon man, I mean he sucks now but no one has ever caused Vidic the kind of grief Torress did, he was an absolute beast at his peak.

Look even guys like Hasselbank and Kevin Phillips scored lots of goals but you never really consider them absurd talents like you would Torress in his prime. If hes playing to what he should hes your ideal out and out striker just as good if not better than Suarez and on par with Van Persie. Lets not forget for all the class Van Persie had hes been a glass cannon most of his life and only really has 2 odd great seasons under his belt.


Right now there is no good position for him because hes just bad. everytime he runs at someone he goes from graceful to clumsy in 2 steps. Theres something more than a recovery from injury that caused it, he didnt exaclty get the rub of the green either. But you can see its still there somewhere.

I really really hope he recovers, not just for Chelsea but because I really wish that he doesnt fizzle.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
May 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#3874
Jorge Jesus deserves to continue. Benfica hasn't played at this quality level since 1994. He's been able to elevate the quality of our players substantially and we're playing great attacking football. Benfica has a lot of players that will continue to grow and with additions like Djuricic next year then we're likely to do a good job in Europe again and the PT league will again be a two-horse race.

On the duel with Porto, if the top-level management of the clubs and management of the teams are at the same level, on the long run Benfica will have much more success, if only because it has more paying associates, higher TV and sponsorship revenue. Porto managed to stay on top based on revenue from selling players, management stability (and better managers, ie. Mourinho), and CL revenue. In the last 4 years Benfica has matched Porto in all these factors, so it's only a matter of time until Benfica again becomes dominant.

Looking at Benfica's performance this season, if we hadn't had these two 90+2 goals against us in the space of 5 days with a completely exhausted team, we would have had the best season since 1962. So we can't be in that bad of a shape right now.

On Cardozo and Lima, neither is world class, but both are very useful in their own way. Overall Cardozo is far more accomplished. I'm anxious to see Rodrigo develop into his full potential though, and unfortunately Nelson Oliveira has been a disappointment this season.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2013 17:02 GMT
#3875
Exhausted team? Try playing 67 game with the same 15 players And only having one player score above 20 goals XD

I guess he deserves one more shot, but didn't he also choke last season in the big games?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 17 2013 00:07 GMT
#3876
On May 17 2013 01:17 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 07:56 sc4k wrote:
On May 16 2013 06:21 Pandemona wrote:

Europa League Final!!
Wednesday May 15th, Amsterdam Arena, Amsterdam Holland!
Kick Off 18:45 GMT (+00:00)


[image loading][image loading]Benfica vs Chelsea [image loading][image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Result!] +

[image loading][image loading]Benfica 1 2 Chelsea [image loading][image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Champions!] +

CHELSEA FC!!!!!!



hahahahaahahaha I love this. Just to make sure everyone knows :D

On Torres...I really don't think he's worth anything like 50 million, but he does actually work quite hard and he gets some bad breaks, he has more than a little bit of skill. I would value him around 15 million I think, he can definitely perform but he is no Van Persie or Suarez is he! Incidentally I think his better position would be playing off another striker or even as a 'trequartista' attacking midfielder.

I would still rather keep him although if another striker turned up and another club made a legit offer, perhaps letting him go would make sense. If we continue to play with 3 attacking mids, it's going to be unlikely we will play with 2 strikers. But if we do, 4 strikers in the squad makes sense. Like I say I'd happily take Wilfried Bony plus the other 3 (including Lukaku) so we can play Man City style, but if we get Falcao/Cavani maybe it would be better to have 3 strikers so they don't get too bothered ego-wise.


O comon man, I mean he sucks now but no one has ever caused Vidic the kind of grief Torress did, he was an absolute beast at his peak.

Look even guys like Hasselbank and Kevin Phillips scored lots of goals but you never really consider them absurd talents like you would Torress in his prime. If hes playing to what he should hes your ideal out and out striker just as good if not better than Suarez and on par with Van Persie. Lets not forget for all the class Van Persie had hes been a glass cannon most of his life and only really has 2 odd great seasons under his belt.


Right now there is no good position for him because hes just bad. everytime he runs at someone he goes from graceful to clumsy in 2 steps. Theres something more than a recovery from injury that caused it, he didnt exaclty get the rub of the green either. But you can see its still there somewhere.

I really really hope he recovers, not just for Chelsea but because I really wish that he doesnt fizzle.


No I totally agree with everything you say. Just saying right now I value him at 15 million until he proves he is not, as you put it, fizzling.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
May 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#3877
On May 17 2013 02:02 Pandemona wrote:
Exhausted team? Try playing 67 game with the same 15 players And only having one player score above 20 goals XD

I guess he deserves one more shot, but didn't he also choke last season in the big games?

Yes, your team was also very tired, which is why they were schooled apart from one set-pieces and one Torres-vs-the-world play.

Porto has lost 1 (one) game for the Portuguese league in the past 3 (three) seasons. Of course they probably manage to do this by corrupting referees, but it means that to win a Portuguese league Benfica has to be pretty much flawless. Which they were, almost. I don't don't see who could do a better job than Jesus, and any change involves risks that I'd rather not take at this point since I like the direction we're taking.

Next year Benfica becomes possibly the first club to broadcast its home games in its own TV channel, that could be huge.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2013 18:18 GMT
#3878
Yeh my mate was on about that. Says he watched every game at work on the laptop of Benfica and next year they have a deal to broadcast all premier league games on it and the membership fee covers that too. So will be able to watch Prem games included which is pretty awesome xD
Also going to generate alot of money for Benfica too? Most sports bars in Portugal are going to need Benfica TV to show English games xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 19:45:47
May 17 2013 19:29 GMT
#3879
wrong thread.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 18 2013 00:53 GMT
#3880
On May 18 2013 01:44 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 02:02 Pandemona wrote:
Exhausted team? Try playing 67 game with the same 15 players And only having one player score above 20 goals XD

I guess he deserves one more shot, but didn't he also choke last season in the big games?

Yes, your team was also very tired, which is why they were schooled apart from one set-pieces and one Torres-vs-the-world play.


Am I the only one who would like to see a behind the scenes, comeback trail documentary of Torres as he rebuilds himself back to his old status, called Torres vs the World? With Mata as his trusty sidekick and comic relief from David Luiz.
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