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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 08:23:22
May 26 2013 08:19 GMT
#8801
Was it Tito's decision or the players' lack of discipline this year? The good games they played, they were still pressing high. Messi needs to start doing it again, he needs to be the attacking leader and show how it's done like he used to do just two years ago. Iniesta needs to stop trying big plays and get back to his defensive duties from time to time...
Barcelona cannot achieve anything if they don't press high because they are not a traditional team when it comes to defending, they need to get the ball back maybe 10s maximum after they lose it, else they'll concede counter attacks or they'll have to make a foul and risk a headkick goal..

I'm tired of people finding excuses for the players: 'Messi is Messi, he doesnt need to defend', 'Iniesta is doing magic, why would he spend time defending?', 'Xavi is old, let the young people do the dirty job'. Soon we'll have 8 players like that and just Busquets and Alves running like crazy to save the day... We won trophies as a team, we need to defend as a team, starting with the best player of all time...
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 26 2013 08:56 GMT
#8802
Barça signed Romario in 1993 and Ronaldinho in 2003. Now Neymar in 2013 :D Hope he turns out to be as good as those two.
Revolutionist fan
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 26 2013 08:57 GMT
#8803
Noone will ever be as good as ronie, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
May 26 2013 09:16 GMT
#8804
On May 26 2013 17:19 WillyWanker wrote:
Was it Tito's decision or the players' lack of discipline this year? The good games they played, they were still pressing high. Messi needs to start doing it again, he needs to be the attacking leader and show how it's done like he used to do just two years ago. Iniesta needs to stop trying big plays and get back to his defensive duties from time to time...
Barcelona cannot achieve anything if they don't press high because they are not a traditional team when it comes to defending, they need to get the ball back maybe 10s maximum after they lose it, else they'll concede counter attacks or they'll have to make a foul and risk a headkick goal..

I'm tired of people finding excuses for the players: 'Messi is Messi, he doesnt need to defend', 'Iniesta is doing magic, why would he spend time defending?', 'Xavi is old, let the young people do the dirty job'. Soon we'll have 8 players like that and just Busquets and Alves running like crazy to save the day... We won trophies as a team, we need to defend as a team, starting with the best player of all time...


pretty sure Messi was just hell tired to press every game, Barca way overused him this season
and it won get better next season if he doesnt get more breaks
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 26 2013 09:30 GMT
#8805
On May 26 2013 18:16 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 17:19 WillyWanker wrote:
Was it Tito's decision or the players' lack of discipline this year? The good games they played, they were still pressing high. Messi needs to start doing it again, he needs to be the attacking leader and show how it's done like he used to do just two years ago. Iniesta needs to stop trying big plays and get back to his defensive duties from time to time...
Barcelona cannot achieve anything if they don't press high because they are not a traditional team when it comes to defending, they need to get the ball back maybe 10s maximum after they lose it, else they'll concede counter attacks or they'll have to make a foul and risk a headkick goal..

I'm tired of people finding excuses for the players: 'Messi is Messi, he doesnt need to defend', 'Iniesta is doing magic, why would he spend time defending?', 'Xavi is old, let the young people do the dirty job'. Soon we'll have 8 players like that and just Busquets and Alves running like crazy to save the day... We won trophies as a team, we need to defend as a team, starting with the best player of all time...


pretty sure Messi was just hell tired to press every game, Barca way overused him this season
and it won get better next season if he doesnt get more breaks

Well I think they're learning because they've already said he won't be playing any more this season. Even though that's only two games they're probably realizing now that he really needs a break.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 26 2013 09:34 GMT
#8806
On May 26 2013 18:30 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 18:16 sharkie wrote:
On May 26 2013 17:19 WillyWanker wrote:
Was it Tito's decision or the players' lack of discipline this year? The good games they played, they were still pressing high. Messi needs to start doing it again, he needs to be the attacking leader and show how it's done like he used to do just two years ago. Iniesta needs to stop trying big plays and get back to his defensive duties from time to time...
Barcelona cannot achieve anything if they don't press high because they are not a traditional team when it comes to defending, they need to get the ball back maybe 10s maximum after they lose it, else they'll concede counter attacks or they'll have to make a foul and risk a headkick goal..

I'm tired of people finding excuses for the players: 'Messi is Messi, he doesnt need to defend', 'Iniesta is doing magic, why would he spend time defending?', 'Xavi is old, let the young people do the dirty job'. Soon we'll have 8 players like that and just Busquets and Alves running like crazy to save the day... We won trophies as a team, we need to defend as a team, starting with the best player of all time...


pretty sure Messi was just hell tired to press every game, Barca way overused him this season
and it won get better next season if he doesnt get more breaks

Well I think they're learning because they've already said he won't be playing any more this season. Even though that's only two games they're probably realizing now that he really needs a break.


Didn't you read about his injury?
Apparently they harmed him by letting him play vs psg and bayern when he wasn't healed yet and his injury's condition has backfired.
I just hope it won't be a career changing thing.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6323 Posts
May 26 2013 10:46 GMT
#8807
In that regard Neymar is good buy since he can take over for Messi in big games whenever he doesn't feel well as the big guy in the team who has to force something.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 26 2013 13:22 GMT
#8808
So... Chelsea win the Europa League - Benitez leaves
Bayern win the Champions League (possible treble) - Heynckes leaves
Manchester United win the Premier League - Ferguson retires
PSG win the French league (after 10 years) - Ancelotti leaves
All we need is for Tito to get the boot in Barcelona and we've got a nice little conspiracy going on
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
May 26 2013 14:42 GMT
#8809
On May 26 2013 18:34 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 18:30 Enchanted wrote:
On May 26 2013 18:16 sharkie wrote:
On May 26 2013 17:19 WillyWanker wrote:
Was it Tito's decision or the players' lack of discipline this year? The good games they played, they were still pressing high. Messi needs to start doing it again, he needs to be the attacking leader and show how it's done like he used to do just two years ago. Iniesta needs to stop trying big plays and get back to his defensive duties from time to time...
Barcelona cannot achieve anything if they don't press high because they are not a traditional team when it comes to defending, they need to get the ball back maybe 10s maximum after they lose it, else they'll concede counter attacks or they'll have to make a foul and risk a headkick goal..

I'm tired of people finding excuses for the players: 'Messi is Messi, he doesnt need to defend', 'Iniesta is doing magic, why would he spend time defending?', 'Xavi is old, let the young people do the dirty job'. Soon we'll have 8 players like that and just Busquets and Alves running like crazy to save the day... We won trophies as a team, we need to defend as a team, starting with the best player of all time...


pretty sure Messi was just hell tired to press every game, Barca way overused him this season
and it won get better next season if he doesnt get more breaks

Well I think they're learning because they've already said he won't be playing any more this season. Even though that's only two games they're probably realizing now that he really needs a break.


Didn't you read about his injury?
Apparently they harmed him by letting him play vs psg and bayern when he wasn't healed yet and his injury's condition has backfired.
I just hope it won't be a career changing thing.


wow they risked messi's health just for quarterfinal advancement? thats so stupid by all parties
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
May 26 2013 14:49 GMT
#8810
He got injured during the first half of the first game against PSG. Then they took him out of the bench just to make sure they could advance, during the second leg. And after that he stopped playing for 2 weeks, came out against Bilbao (I think) to score a wonderful goal, then 3 days later he didn't run a minute against Bayern. Didn't play the next game, nor the second leg... And now he's out for the rest of the season...

When you're pressured, you make mistakes. If Barca didn't concede that stupid goal in the last minute vs PSG in Paris, he probably would have stayed on the bench and just played against Bayern... Anyway, with or without him they would have lost the same
Now he gets the rest of the season and summer to heal, even though I heard that Argentina called him for the June friendlies? That's terrible
Littlemuff
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom301 Posts
May 26 2013 16:06 GMT
#8811
These sort of Brazilian players are generally a risks that might pay off. Neymar might be another Ronaldo or might just be another Kleberson. Time will tell.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 17:55:12
May 26 2013 17:32 GMT
#8812
1-0 Lazio in the Coppa Italia. 20 minutes to go.

And Roma hits the crossbar just a minute later!

And that's time, Lazio win 1-0. Lulic scored the winner.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
May 26 2013 18:33 GMT
#8813
Did Benfica Lissabon pull a Bayern (three times 2nd place) this season?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 18:49:40
May 26 2013 18:49 GMT
#8814
On May 26 2013 16:05 WillyWanker wrote:
I just saw some of his games for Brazil and the usual youtube videos, so that's why everything I say is 'I doubt', 'He might not', ... Now the issue is that even Fabregas that has been in la masia and plays for Spain with the same players, is too weak tactically (at least for now) to play for Barcelona. Just look at yesterday's CL final, both team were so good at teamwork.. These last years, the team that managed to play as one block managed to win the CL.
Additionaly, can Neymar play for other players like Messi? Can he just be the number 2 (or 3 because Iniesta is the 2nd most important offensive player for Barca)? Because he will have to do a lot of dirty work like Henry did when he arrived there ('The coach asks me to defend more than to attack', whine whine), and what caused Pedro to replace him after some time. Because Neymar will have to win his spot against Alexis and Pedro who are both sacrificing so much to help the team be balanced... If he can, then I'll be glad I was wrong. But I, for now, am doubting a lot about his integration...


Then why do people feed the need to comment,

If your going of of youtube videos and operate on the premise that a player not form La Masia wont fit its rather bleak for Barca in the coming years.

Dortmund and Bayern have a homegrown core but they still pick good players from around the place. thats how you balance.

Henry did alot of dirty work because he just wasnt as good as he used to be in addition adjutsing. I dont understand why one player has to be a number 2 or a 3 or 4th best player.

You will on the strength of your performances be allowed to express yourself.

Its to difficult to say what will happen but there is likely a plan in place and overthinking at this stage is just blowing noise out of an empty vessel.
lafond1H
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada77 Posts
May 26 2013 18:59 GMT
#8815
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/26/falcao-transfer-monaco-medical

So that's 120m Euro for Falcao, Moutinho and Rodriguez.
cal p baby
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#8816
Such a waste of talent. I am glad Chelsea didn't buy him though, i would much rather Chelsea bought Lewandowski or Michu and tried with what we already have.
I do hope Monaco get better, but the next 12months of Falcao Moutinho and Rodriguez career is going to be bedding into a Monaco team trying to get a champions league place in Ligue 1....instead of going to another club which is already in the champions league for example.

Oh well atleast Atletico Madrid and Porto are happy with the money they have XD
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 26 2013 19:48 GMT
#8817
On May 27 2013 03:33 sharkie wrote:
Did Benfica Lissabon pull a Bayern (three times 2nd place) this season?


Talk about bad luck. Insane.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 20:07:42
May 26 2013 20:05 GMT
#8818
On May 27 2013 04:48 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 03:33 sharkie wrote:
Did Benfica Lissabon pull a Bayern (three times 2nd place) this season?


Talk about bad luck. Insane.


Porto 2 - 1 Benfica
Chelsea 2 - 1 Benfica
V. Guimaraes 2 - 1 Benfica

This after a run with only 1 loss (vs Fenerbahce in the EL semis) since October.

Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
May 26 2013 20:06 GMT
#8819
Sick goal by Alexis :D Such a great talent, people can't see shit when they think he is bad lol

Español being as lame as Madrid when they lose, but without the actual good players. The racist chants all game long didn't help.
Revolutionist fan
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#8820
No he is good, really good.
It's just that people have very high standards for the people that are supposed to score alongside messi, to help him when he's off and well, we know how that goes.

Btw what's neymar's position?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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