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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#6101
Let's gogogogo Sporting KC!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
March 02 2013 22:20 GMT
#6102
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 03 2013 03:45 GMT
#6103
On March 03 2013 07:20 sc4k wrote:
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O

Such a boss he's still 13 points behind, and may only have the Copa del Rey to play for after tuesday
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
March 03 2013 05:02 GMT
#6104
On March 03 2013 12:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 07:20 sc4k wrote:
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O

Such a boss he's still 13 points behind, and may only have the Copa del Rey to play for after tuesday

Barca may only have the league to paly for after next week. Their situation is a little more bleak.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 03 2013 06:45 GMT
#6105
Since when winning la Copa is better than winning la Liga? :s objectivity please. 1-1 at home is slightly better than 2-0 away, but if they're both eliminated, Barça would still have had a better season than Madrid. Losing the league in December doesn't make you a boss...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28918 Posts
March 03 2013 10:47 GMT
#6106
ye if both lose CL then barcelona's season will have been better. but CL is the really important title for both teams.

I think mourinho is gonna leave and come to england no matter how the season ends tho so I'm happy either way :D
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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 11:41:24
March 03 2013 11:06 GMT
#6107
On March 03 2013 12:45 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 07:20 sc4k wrote:
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O

Such a boss he's still 13 points behind, and may only have the Copa del Rey to play for after tuesday


I'm talking about his career. Ferguson is the best all time manager but I can easily see Jose being even better after his career is over. The guy is incredible. And to win -everything- with Porto, the league with Chelsea 2 times, the treble with Inter (who then immediately sucked after), and la liga with RM. If he can win the CL this season it will put him one step closer to beating Ferguson. Which is why the fact that it's RM vs Man U is amusing lol.

Getting 13 points behind really is just a few results, and in la liga it's really about who manages to get that little bit of luck in a few games. This pace that Bayern, Barca and Man U have been on is unbelievable. They just refuse to be stopped. If their competitors slip up just a little, it becomes a matter of psychology as well. Dortmund, Man City, RM, all winners of the league last year, all falling behind this year. I guess you can point to the fractured atmosphere at RM and blame Mou but it also just the luck of the dice from time to time.

Also re QPR, man I should have made a bet on them staying up. I think they will do it, just too much quality in the team, especially if Remy stays fit.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 11:44:53
March 03 2013 11:42 GMT
#6108
On March 03 2013 20:06 sc4k wrote:
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On March 03 2013 12:45 WillyWanker wrote:
On March 03 2013 07:20 sc4k wrote:
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O

Such a boss he's still 13 points behind, and may only have the Copa del Rey to play for after tuesday


I'm talking about his career. Ferguson is the best all time manager but I can easily see Jose being even better after his career is over. The guy is incredible. And to win -everything- with Porto, the league with Chelsea 2 times, the treble with Inter (who then immediately sucked after), and la liga with RM. If he can win the CL this season it will put him one step closer to beating Ferguson. Which is why the fact that it's RM vs Man U is amusing lol.

Getting 13 points behind really is just a few results, and in la liga it's really about who manages to get that little bit of luck in a few games. This pace that Bayern, Barca and Man U have been on is unbelievable. They just refuse to be stopped. If their competitors slip up just a little, it becomes a matter of psychology as well. Dortmund, Man City, RM, all winners of the league last year, all falling behind this year. I guess you can point to the fractured atmosphere at RM and blame Mou but it also just the luck of the dice from time to time.

Also re QPR, man I should have made a bet on them staying up. I think they will do it, just too much quality in the team, especially if Remy stays fit.


Hes not even close to Fergie, never will be hes not that kind of manager, nor are any of the crop from the last decade or so.

And frankly with the climate clubs are run in these days no one will ever come close. Im no Fergie fan but his mangerial prowess and to consistently build team after team (at the same club) and dominate the way he has will take some matching.

Mourinho may have won more CL's but hes not got it.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
March 03 2013 12:15 GMT
#6109
On March 03 2013 20:42 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 20:06 sc4k wrote:
On March 03 2013 12:45 WillyWanker wrote:
On March 03 2013 07:20 sc4k wrote:
Mourinho is just a fucking boss...nothing else to say about it. God damn he is awesome. I hope this recent run of form doesn't convince him to stay at Real Madrid :O

Such a boss he's still 13 points behind, and may only have the Copa del Rey to play for after tuesday


I'm talking about his career. Ferguson is the best all time manager but I can easily see Jose being even better after his career is over. The guy is incredible. And to win -everything- with Porto, the league with Chelsea 2 times, the treble with Inter (who then immediately sucked after), and la liga with RM. If he can win the CL this season it will put him one step closer to beating Ferguson. Which is why the fact that it's RM vs Man U is amusing lol.

Getting 13 points behind really is just a few results, and in la liga it's really about who manages to get that little bit of luck in a few games. This pace that Bayern, Barca and Man U have been on is unbelievable. They just refuse to be stopped. If their competitors slip up just a little, it becomes a matter of psychology as well. Dortmund, Man City, RM, all winners of the league last year, all falling behind this year. I guess you can point to the fractured atmosphere at RM and blame Mou but it also just the luck of the dice from time to time.

Also re QPR, man I should have made a bet on them staying up. I think they will do it, just too much quality in the team, especially if Remy stays fit.


Hes not even close to Fergie, never will be hes not that kind of manager, nor are any of the crop from the last decade or so.

And frankly with the climate clubs are run in these days no one will ever come close. Im no Fergie fan but his mangerial prowess and to consistently build team after team (at the same club) and dominate the way he has will take some matching.

Mourinho may have won more CL's but hes not got it.


Nah he's too young for you to claim that. He's already won two trebles. You can rubbish the fact that he has won the league in 4 different countries as much as you want but if he doubles his record, for example, he starts to present an extremely powerful case. I have a huge amount of respect for someone who can have success in multiple countries. That includes Ferguson of course but Mou is just on another level. If he wins another treble with a DIFFERENT team (like Chelsea :D), about 10 league titles, and perhaps even does a successful stint as an international manager (winning with Portugal for example)...then we're cooking...and we might be looking at the GOAT.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2013 12:20 GMT
#6110
Lol
Barca lose their 3rd biggest game of the year in a row xD
Real rested players too xD So funny.

Now aslong as Mourinho can do something to dethrone Man United on Tuesday all will be right in the football world xD
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 03 2013 12:24 GMT
#6111
Got Real - Barca and 11 Premier League/Championship matches right, Fuck Middlesbrough and Cardiff, seriously.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 12:29:50
March 03 2013 12:27 GMT
#6112
I'm with sc4k on this one. Fergie is the best by some margin still, but Mourinho has plenty of time. And what happened at Madrid can only make him better in the future.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 12:35:31
March 03 2013 12:34 GMT
#6113
The day Mourinho makes a club become something as huge as what MU is today, he will be a candidate for one of the best of all time. But that won't happen since he only uses a club's ressources to win some trophies and then leaves. People have no memory, Mourinho has never been the coach of a legendary team: Sacchi's Milan, Cruijff or Guardiola's Barcelona, and I forget many more that were infinitely better than what Mourinho is today. You can argue he's the best of his generation, but to me, a coach is something more than a manager. The day he starts inventing something in the football's world, I might consider him for this 'award'.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2013 12:39 GMT
#6114
Lol no memory....just a stacked Trophy cabinet lawl xD

Man Utd has always been a big team, without Fergie that is ^_^
What Mourinho did with Porto is still a great achievement and you can't deny that. Since then he has had the transfer funds to do as he pleases, but still as Man City have proven, you can have all the money in the world and it does not bring you success without the right manager
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 03 2013 12:41 GMT
#6115
I don't hold in high esteem jumpers. Don't think they have enough skill to remain in one team through the ups and downs for many years.

That's why mourinho is not close to Fergie.(look at how he abandoned ship when he failed in chelsea)
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2013 12:45 GMT
#6116
He didn't abadon ship rofl. Roman said, play Sheva, i bought him 30million, play him. Even though he was shit and past it xD Mourinho didn't like that and left "by mutual consent"
Plus that same year we got to champions league final, lost by an inch of a goal post width, and won the FA Cup. With his team XD
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 03 2013 12:55 GMT
#6117
On March 03 2013 21:39 Pandemona wrote:
Lol no memory....just a stacked Trophy cabinet lawl xD

Man Utd has always been a big team, without Fergie that is ^_^
What Mourinho did with Porto is still a great achievement and you can't deny that. Since then he has had the transfer funds to do as he pleases, but still as Man City have proven, you can have all the money in the world and it does not bring you success without the right manager

Porto's CL was a great achievement, but he's not the first to win with the underdog team... This same 2004 year, Greece won the Euro, so...
Your arguments are that he succeeded in many different clubs; for me he's just a mercenary. No, he's a businessman coaching football teams. I'm pretty sure he could succeed in any business as a leader because of his mindset. But do we remember great CEO's or do we remember guys with ideas? (Jobs, Gates, etc etc etc). Guardiola won the same amount of trophies in just 4 years, but 'he did it in the same team, with the best players blablablabla'. I'm not saying Guardiola is better (time will tell), but he did something more than just manage a team.

But I guess that's just a matter of opinion, like when Messi is not the best because 'he has always played in the same team', when the same guys praise Scholes and Giggs every weekend x)

On my list, Mourinho is probably around the 12-15th spot, and I don't have a good knowledge on the period pre 90's.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 03 2013 13:24 GMT
#6118
On March 03 2013 21:45 Pandemona wrote:
He didn't abadon ship rofl. Roman said, play Sheva, i bought him 30million, play him. Even though he was shit and past it xD Mourinho didn't like that and left "by mutual consent"
Plus that same year we got to champions league final, lost by an inch of a goal post width, and won the FA Cup. With his team XD


Mutual consent in the media sure.

Most likely what happened is that they urged him to quit and they worked out some deal, i.e. he got a big fat check to resign.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 03 2013 13:26 GMT
#6119
On March 03 2013 21:55 WillyWanker wrote:
On my list, Mourinho is probably around the 12-15th spot, and I don't have a good knowledge on the period pre 90's.


Rinus Michels
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 13:35:07
March 03 2013 13:30 GMT
#6120
On March 03 2013 22:26 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 21:55 WillyWanker wrote:
On my list, Mourinho is probably around the 12-15th spot, and I don't have a good knowledge on the period pre 90's.


Rinus Michels



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On March 03 2013 21:55 WillyWanker wrote:But do we remember great CEO's or do we remember guys with ideas? (Jobs, Gates, etc etc etc).


Gates and Jobs pretty much stole their ideas from other people lol (including each other XD). In fact they aren't just great CEO's, they are godlike CEO's that managed to create a brand that people stick by no matter what. To me, Fergie isn't the man with the ideas either.
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