EPT2012 - 2013 Football Thread! - Page 178
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Telcontar
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Ampersand799
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Pandemona
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Swish 41
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
The problem they are having is they produce good quality youngsters who will eventually be good, but in the time they produce say a cesc fabregas, they have lost a world class striker or defender, so it becomes a big long circle of, 2 good amazing players, then lose 2 good amazing players etcetc. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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mememolly
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sharkie
Austria18774 Posts
On December 06 2012 18:25 Swish 41 wrote: Arsenal is no topteam anymore like 3-4 years ago, they lost all their stars in the last few years. Wenger is known as Arsenals coach and 1-2 bad seasons won't change anything. He has players like Mertesacker and Poldi who are even too bad to make the nationalteam anymore. fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On December 06 2012 18:29 Pandemona wrote: He needed to sign Metersacker and Poldolski like 2 season's ago, then Arsenal would of been really good. With Cesc and RVP still there as well. The problem they are having is they produce good quality youngsters who will eventually be good, but in the time they produce say a cesc fabregas, they have lost a world class striker or defender, so it becomes a big long circle of, 2 good amazing players, then lose 2 good amazing players etcetc. This is basically the problem with any team that doesn't rely on having huge debt. Arsenal are actually the ones doing it right and I applaud them for it. In Germany (and also in Holland) teams aren't allowed, or it's not their policy, to have huge debt. Football would take a huge step forward if every club doesn't just buy all their players but actually uses their youth academy. It sickens me when 16-18 year old players get lured in by clubs like Manchester City/Chelsea with a big contract with of course the aid of their agents who also get a pretty penny. What happens is that they don't play for 3 years or whatever which considerably halts their progression. They should just stay with their club to make sure they get playing time. Thankfully clubs like mine (Ajax) can keep their most promising talents most of the time for a couple years. Sad thing is they still get bought away when they are 21/22. Christian Eriksen for example is 20 right now and he will probably get bought by some club at the end of the season. They've been gunning for him since 2 years ago and now that he finally becomes somewhat consistent, he feels he is ready 'for the next step'. If only players like that stay on for about 4 years more, then a club like Ajax could actually be a contender in the CL. Same thing with Arsenal. | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On December 06 2012 20:30 sharkie wrote: fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? Terrible argument, please don't try to troll. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On December 06 2012 21:03 Twisted wrote: This is basically the problem with any team that doesn't rely on having huge debt. Arsenal are actually the ones doing it right and I applaud them for it. In Germany (and also in Holland) teams aren't allowed, or it's not their policy, to have huge debt. Football would take a huge step forward if every club doesn't just buy all their players but actually uses their youth academy. It sickens me when 16-18 year old players get lured in by clubs like Manchester City/Chelsea with a big contract with of course the aid of their agents who also get a pretty penny. What happens is that they don't play for 3 years or whatever which considerably halts their progression. They should just stay with their club to make sure they get playing time. Thankfully clubs like mine (Ajax) can keep their most promising talents most of the time for a couple years. Sad thing is they still get bought away when they are 21/22. Christian Eriksen for example is 20 right now and he will probably get bought by some club at the end of the season. They've been gunning for him since 2 years ago and now that he finally becomes somewhat consistent, he feels he is ready 'for the next step'. If only players like that stay on for about 4 years more, then a club like Ajax could actually be a contender in the CL. Same thing with Arsenal. Because Chelsea have a huge debt....... Arsenal could do what i stated and still not have a debt, they make a decent profit every year. They didn't have to sell RVP, and they only got 20million for him anyway. What happens is players "want" to leave because they get offered a chance to win trophies now not in 2-3 seasons time. Like im pretty confident RVP will win a peice of silverware this season with Man Utd (most likely the premiership title) and Fabregas won the Champions League in his first season at Barca right? If they could of signed Podolski and Metersacker in the summer they were "about" to lose Fabregas (and still had RVP who was about to score 30goals in 30games) they probably would of won the league or won something pretty easily that season (or maybe the next) and right now they would still have good players and a very good squad. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On December 06 2012 20:30 sharkie wrote: fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? Actually he was a starter in the last European Championships ahead of Torres/Llorente...etc. He was pretty good in that false 9 role and made telling contribution. He also played key part in both Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010 and helped Spain lift both trophies. Either you know this and you're just trolling, or you're just ignorant. | ||
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haitike
Spain2745 Posts
On December 06 2012 20:30 sharkie wrote: fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? Umn? Fabregas was the main 9 in the last eurocup. He played almost all the matches. | ||
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Swish 41
Germany154 Posts
On December 06 2012 20:30 sharkie wrote: fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? Spain doesn't count. Their B-Team is better than 98% of all other nationalteams and Fabregas is not like Mertesacker or Podolski not even close ot making the team. And Fabregas even plays most of the time. Mertesacker and Poldi are just terrible, Fabregas isn't LOL :p | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 06 2012 20:30 sharkie wrote: fabregas is no a-teamer in Spain himself So is fabregas bad too? I find it funny how its easy to be so obviously uninformed and ignorant but still have an opinion about something. Fabregas aside from his atrocious dip around spring last year has been really good. On current form hes Barca's second best midfielder after Iniesta, yes hes playing better than Xavi + Show Spoiler + (hey has to happen sometime) I think playing him 9 is retarded though, even for Spain. | ||
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haitike
Spain2745 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
NEWS!!! Euro 2020 will be held in a number of cities across the continent, UEFA confirms UEFA will stage the Euro 2020 tournament in a number of cities across the continent, European football's governing body has announced. "UEFA Euro 2020 will be staged across the continent, in various major cities, following a decision taken today. A Euro for Europe follows an initial idea by UEFA president Michel Platini. "The response has been extremely positive from all the national associations." Source | ||
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sharkie
Austria18774 Posts
On December 07 2012 01:38 Twisted wrote: No idea why that comment gets so much attention. It's obvious trolling. how is it trolling? I just used his stupid logic on himself. I cant believe how no one of you realised I didnt mean any of what I said. | ||
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fbs
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