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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2012 13:32 GMT
#3301
But Benitez might of fluked istanbul, but i think they were a tad unlucky when they got to erm, the other final and lost to Milan again.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 21 2012 13:32 GMT
#3302
On November 21 2012 22:23 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 22:18 sAsImre wrote:
On November 21 2012 21:37 sharkie wrote:
On November 21 2012 21:18 UdderChaos wrote:
Haha Chelsea, seriously? you sack a manager that won the fa cup and the champions league with an old squad. I really hope Di Matteo goes to a decent club that respects him. And just for the karma and the lols i really hope they sign Rafa as their manager, hes such a clown.


but he's won a champions league :p


and liga with valencia. which is a tad better than 6th in the PL.


Of course all past glories, but going back 3 years and he took a champions league winning team left by Mourinho to like bottom of Serie A (like 3rd from bottom) and the end of his Liverpool days they were piss poor, all be it they had a piss poor squad


yeah Benitez fucked hard with Inter but had proven his ability to be a good manager too and he won the CL with freaking 2005 Lpool squad which wasn't exceptionnal :p. Well Matteo won the CL but i doubt it's due to its tactical genius considering how Chelsea has been playing since the beginning of the season...
Zest fanboy.
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
November 21 2012 13:38 GMT
#3303
On November 21 2012 22:32 Pandemona wrote:
But Benitez might of fluked istanbul, but i think they were a tad unlucky when they got to erm, the other final and lost to Milan again.


Us lucky!? How about you last season, lucky? At least we won the UEFA Super Cup unlike you.

Manner up.
People.....People never change
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2012 13:42 GMT
#3304
So your saying it wasn't a fluke you beat Milan on penalties? It was all "good play" and you "deserved" to win? The only team who had an outcome on that game, were Milan who choked on Penalties because they didn't understand how they managed to let Liverpool take it that far....

Anyway that is not the point, i am standing up for him, the manager who has bought you the only success you have had in decades...
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
November 21 2012 13:53 GMT
#3305
Lucky or not, that's not the point. We deserved to win as you were last season, that is that, no more. Please don't discrediting our achievements, that's like me arguing with you that Chelsea wouldn't be winning something if it wasn't for Roman's money...

As for Benitez, he was piss poor simply because he just simply didn't have the fund to bolster the team, losing good players and such... and yeah the debt, we're almost gone bankrupt.
People.....People never change
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 14:07:05
November 21 2012 13:55 GMT
#3306
I haven't said Benitez was a bad manager, i just said you were lucky in Istanbul and were unlucky the year later when you lost to them the following year!

I know he was working with fuck all at Liverpool, thats the reason he got alot of respect in the managerial world because he did so much with such a poor squad. He had 4 gifted players in Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard. Rest were average.


In other news, betting has been suspended on Harry Redknapp becoming the next Ukraine manager, very interesting...
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
November 21 2012 14:14 GMT
#3307
On November 21 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
I haven't said Benitez was a bad manager, i just said you were lucky in Istanbul and were unlucky the year later when you lost to them the following year!

I know he was working with fuck all at Liverpool, thats the reason he got alot of respect in the managerial world because he did so much with such a poor squad. He had 4 gifted players in Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard. Rest were average.


In other news, betting has been suspended on Harry Redknapp becoming the next Ukraine manager, very interesting...

winning the champions league with Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard all on form is hardly working with fuck all lol. Liverpool had a brilliant squad, maybe not the best in the world at the time, but it certainly had some world class players at the time.
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 21 2012 14:19 GMT
#3308
On November 21 2012 23:14 UdderChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
I haven't said Benitez was a bad manager, i just said you were lucky in Istanbul and were unlucky the year later when you lost to them the following year!

I know he was working with fuck all at Liverpool, thats the reason he got alot of respect in the managerial world because he did so much with such a poor squad. He had 4 gifted players in Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard. Rest were average.


In other news, betting has been suspended on Harry Redknapp becoming the next Ukraine manager, very interesting...

winning the champions league with Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard all on form is hardly working with fuck all lol. Liverpool had a brilliant squad, maybe not the best in the world at the time, but it certainly had some world class players at the time.


Compare Liverpool 2005 to Juve/Milan/Barcelona... it wasn't that great at all.
Zest fanboy.
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 14:24:33
November 21 2012 14:23 GMT
#3309
I'm not defending him, you know.. I'm here for my club. I'm annoyed at your misleading points, Benitez did not brought 'the only success in decades', Gerrard Houllier won a cup treble of the League Cup, the FA Cup and the UEFA Cup and went on to win the FA Community Shield against Manchester United and UEFA Super Cup against Bayern Munich in 2001. Please do your research, don't go full fanboy mode without a clue....-_- We're rebuilding a team you know, it takes time.

On to the topic, I have full certainty that Benitez won't be your next manager, I'm sure Roman would prefer a 'much better' manager, given him willing to pay quids for the man to get the job done.
People.....People never change
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2012 14:45 GMT
#3310
I'm not even going to get into an argument with you about your "success" you think you have had for a club as big as Liverpool thinking it is adequate.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
novamarine
Profile Joined February 2011
Malaysia215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 14:56:01
November 21 2012 14:50 GMT
#3311
I'm not arguing dude, just pointing out. I'm cool.
We're slowly but surely will get back to winning days, top 4 is a priority for us this season, a cup or two would be very neat! January is coming and if we can strengthen our squad, we'll get there..
People.....People never change
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2012 14:59 GMT
#3312
You definatly need to strengthen in January but i hear the funds aren't avaialble unless you sell first. Which again for your club should not be the case. I also think top 4 after the start you have had is quite a way off. Think you need focus on a strong FA cup run and try and get as high as possible in the league.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
November 21 2012 16:58 GMT
#3313
On November 21 2012 20:56 Stimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 19:49 Telcontar wrote:
Another notch on the belt for Roman. How can Chelsea fans be ok with this dictator in power? I guess money and instant success is all most of you care about. Perhaps I'm just a naive fool for thinking loyalty, patience, and faith should count for something in today's football.


Way to paint everyone with the same brush. 90% of us are furious about it but don't let that stop your holier than thou attitude.

The holier-than-thou attitude is even funnier when you dig this up:

On August 21 2012 04:05 Telcontar wrote:
Now Song? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WENGER? That's it. FUCK ARSENAL. I refuse to support a club that has CHOSEN to become a feeder club. Good luck trying to stay in the top half of the table.


On August 21 2012 05:03 Telcontar wrote:
I suppose those who only know and support this current Arsenal, are just fine with mediocrity. You weren't there when we were winning, when we had real ambitions, when we actually competed. I know that every club goes through fluctuations, but this club is consciously deciding to turn into a middle tier club. If you're content with that, good for you. I hope another 7 years of drought serves you well. I for one, will save myself the pain and heartache.


Loyalty, patience, and faith indeed.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 21 2012 17:00 GMT
#3314


Absolutely magnificent.

Now, let's hope Olympiakos will show a nice performance in germany and if we happen to win that would be great.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 18:48:12
November 21 2012 17:08 GMT
#3315
On November 21 2012 23:14 UdderChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
I haven't said Benitez was a bad manager, i just said you were lucky in Istanbul and were unlucky the year later when you lost to them the following year!

I know he was working with fuck all at Liverpool, thats the reason he got alot of respect in the managerial world because he did so much with such a poor squad. He had 4 gifted players in Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard. Rest were average.


In other news, betting has been suspended on Harry Redknapp becoming the next Ukraine manager, very interesting...

winning the champions league with Alonso/Masch/Torres/Gerrard all on form is hardly working with fuck all lol. Liverpool had a brilliant squad, maybe not the best in the world at the time, but it certainly had some world class players at the time.


There was no Torres or Mascherano in that team.. Xabi Alonso was in his first season out of Sociedad and was decent at best at the time. He developed into a real boss during his time in the following years at Liverpool

The big dogs were the Dity Hammans and the Smicers.. and lolol Milan Baros.

That teams was totally medicore at best.

Theyre most creative player after Stevie G was Luis Garcia (remember him? Obviously not since you put Torres in that team.)

Also Stevie G carried that team hard in the final like a boss. With a little help from Smicer. Xabi alonso was decent too.

O and yeah that pen shootout performance with Dudek jumping around like a mongrel got him a spot on Reals subs bench till the end of his career. Not a terrible deal.

so they got carried hard. They were a weak team that placed below Everton in the league. But there is nothing wrong with that.


+ Show Spoiler +
Mind you he also got them through against Olympiakos that year (you know that famous o you beauty ! goal, fuck I miss Andy Grey)

Now if your talking about did well as in coming second in the league one year? Well fuck that, in that case Claudia Raneiri has the TM on that. Just doing well. No one ever gives him any credit for being a great manager. Cuz hes not. Hes just average.

Rafa on the other hand took that shit team to a final (ok the carrying aside) came second in a close race (which he shouldve won but w/e) and orchestrated Valencia winning league titals.

That having been said hes been pretty shit in his formative years at Pool and Inter. To much micromanagement and hard headedness.




Drogba carried a piss poor Chelsea team to the CL. Thats knockout football.

Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
November 21 2012 17:21 GMT
#3316
Yeah, in knockouts everything can happen and not always the best team wins. That's why chelsea won last year.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2012 17:31 GMT
#3317
Just confirmed on sky sports news what i said earlier in the day;

Harry Redknapp has been offered a mega bucks deal to become the next Manager of Ukraine if he wants the job
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
November 21 2012 18:45 GMT
#3318
How can you call a manager who brought his team in two CL finals in three years a fluke?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 19:34:03
November 21 2012 19:33 GMT
#3319
Chelsea Confirm Benitez Appointment

Chelsea Football Club can confirm Rafael Benitez has been appointed interim first-team manager until the end of the season.

The owner and the Board believe that in Benitez we have a manager with significant experience at the highest level of football, who can come in and immediately help deliver our objectives.

The 52-year-old Spaniard is due to meet the players at the training ground in Cobham tomorrow.


Source
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 20:01:12
November 21 2012 19:57 GMT
#3320
So is Mancini next in line to be fired? Looking like it.
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