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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 28 2012 18:28 GMT
#2881
At least ferguson has the respect not to beat a dead horse for his own gain immediately after the game
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 28 2012 18:50 GMT
#2882
I'll go ahead and say something else that's food for thought

The pundits kept saying its controversial and it'll be something to talk about and I'm split on wether that's a good thing or a bad thing
Surely we should be working to eliminate this shit from the game so the correct decisions are made? It seems it's good to talk about when your team isn't involved or affected but should be eliminated when your team is

Others thoughts?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
October 28 2012 18:52 GMT
#2883
Feyenoord - Ajax 2 - 2 ref was leaning towards my side (Feyenoord) but they certainly deserved something IMO. Ajax was a shadow of the team that beat man city and looked vulnerable at the back.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
October 28 2012 19:03 GMT
#2884
the refereeing is disgrace to the game. incopetent refs ruin our beloved game. something needs to be done but FIFA only keeps finding excuses. disgrace
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18443 Posts
October 28 2012 19:09 GMT
#2885
hey platini and co say mistakes by referee are awesome and are what football is about :D
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
October 28 2012 19:52 GMT
#2886
drama>competition
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 28 2012 22:11 GMT
#2887
ok the calls were pretty bad, so was cleverly and evans, like how long do players get to prove that they can't play at this level.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 01:21:39
October 29 2012 01:21 GMT
#2888
On October 29 2012 03:09 Denzil wrote:
Looking at the Torres "dive"

I'm not sure what to make of it, Torres has made Evans look like a twat with that nutmeg he gains nothing by going down yet he's gone down anyway if there was contact it wasn't very noticible


Honestly, if Torres keeps his feet there, Evans will break something. And this is the second time theres been a big incident caused by Evans going in for a rash tackle in a big game, while getting the better end of a decision.

Sure he didnt connect, but if were talking intent. Too bad Torres is a mega klutz now when hes made a good move or good first touch and loses his balance or something stupid. He was probably looking for it but I dont think anyone would do to much differently.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
October 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#2889
On October 29 2012 07:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
ok the calls were pretty bad, so was cleverly and evans, like how long do players get to prove that they can't play at this level.

With Vidic, Jones, and Smalling all injured, Evans has to play. But those players should all come back in November, which should mean improvement in the CB selection.

Cleverley I have no idea. SAF seems to have a blind spot in the midfield. For that matter, why (when he's not injured) was Kagawa being pushed out wide in the diamond, when he is a CAM? I know he has played left attacking mid sometimes, but he's clearly more comfortable in the hole.

Such a lucky result today...
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
October 29 2012 07:15 GMT
#2890
On October 29 2012 10:21 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 03:09 Denzil wrote:
Looking at the Torres "dive"

I'm not sure what to make of it, Torres has made Evans look like a twat with that nutmeg he gains nothing by going down yet he's gone down anyway if there was contact it wasn't very noticible


Honestly, if Torres keeps his feet there, Evans will break something. And this is the second time theres been a big incident caused by Evans going in for a rash tackle in a big game, while getting the better end of a decision.

Sure he didnt connect, but if were talking intent. Too bad Torres is a mega klutz now when hes made a good move or good first touch and loses his balance or something stupid. He was probably looking for it but I dont think anyone would do to much differently.


Young has made a united careers out of doing what torres did. But notice how quick twattenburg goes to book torres, but when rooney hauls down cole, no card. Rooney quickly gets subbed after.

Interesting chelsea has lodged a complaint about things clattenburg said to chelsea players, and chelsea wouldn't do that unless they felt they had a case. So lets see what develops, or gets brushed under the carpet.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 29 2012 08:21 GMT
#2891
It pays to have refs on your side. Them too.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 11:32:35
October 29 2012 11:32 GMT
#2892
On October 29 2012 04:03 PredY wrote:
the refereeing is disgrace to the game. incopetent refs ruin our beloved game. something needs to be done but FIFA only keeps finding excuses. disgrace

It's a little bit unfair to blame the refs when think that they're being thrown under the bus by the system that's clearly failing them, the players and the fans. If anyone is to blame then it's governing bodies for maintaining this ridiculous stance that the referee is always right, when everyone can see that they're not, often within seconds of these decisions being made. The referees are only human after all, as much as FIFA likes to insist to the contrary.
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Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
October 29 2012 11:50 GMT
#2893
When people say that refs are ruining the game, it implies that things used to be better. But I wager that refs today are way better than they used to be if you go back in time. Of course it´s a bit harder for them now because the game is faster and the players are better at cheating. But more so, sensationalist media and internet make the problems seem bigger than they are. Back in the day, a fan would curse after the game and then forget about it. Now he will work himself up more and more, discussing on forums and so on. My point is, it sucks when your team is robbed, but the system is fine. There is a lot of randomness in football, with or without the ref. If you want the better team to win, they need to be that much better to overcome it.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#2894
On October 29 2012 20:32 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2012 04:03 PredY wrote:
the refereeing is disgrace to the game. incopetent refs ruin our beloved game. something needs to be done but FIFA only keeps finding excuses. disgrace

It's a little bit unfair to blame the refs when think that they're being thrown under the bus by the system that's clearly failing them, the players and the fans. If anyone is to blame then it's governing bodies for maintaining this ridiculous stance that the referee is always right, when everyone can see that they're not, often within seconds of these decisions being made. The referees are only human after all, as much as FIFA likes to insist to the contrary.

Yes and no. If you consider that the fairest decision must be taken every time, then complete review-able decisions are the only way to go. However if you let referees set the tempo/style of the game (like Clattenburg failed to do) then it's better to have limited access reviews.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
October 29 2012 12:18 GMT
#2895
On October 29 2012 20:50 Breavman wrote:
When people say that refs are ruining the game, it implies that things used to be better. But I wager that refs today are way better than they used to be if you go back in time. Of course it´s a bit harder for them now because the game is faster and the players are better at cheating. But more so, sensationalist media and internet make the problems seem bigger than they are. Back in the day, a fan would curse after the game and then forget about it. Now he will work himself up more and more, discussing on forums and so on. My point is, it sucks when your team is robbed, but the system is fine. There is a lot of randomness in football, with or without the ref. If you want the better team to win, they need to be that much better to overcome it.


You clearly don't know the Portuguese League


Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 12:39:27
October 29 2012 12:20 GMT
#2896
it's certainly possible to argue that stuff like offsides, penalty appeals, general calls through the game shouldn't be done by video officiating as it'd break the pace of the game to some degree. I think there are several valid points of view here and several viable solutions, e.g. let both teams contest 2 calls through a game or whatever.. but say, not adding goal line technology in the top competitions is an absolute farce. you already have replays showing whether the ball was over the line 10 seconds after the incident.

not really directing this reply at anyone, just throwing it out there. stuff like wrong red carding and wrongly given penalties and wrong offside calls might just be here to stay; I really don't want it to be possible to start interjecting 15 second commercials every 5 minutes. but the goal line technology not being implemented.. is sooo stupid.
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 12:30:42
October 29 2012 12:30 GMT
#2897
On October 29 2012 03:12 The KY wrote:
Well Chelsea couldn't expect to keep it as a draw, not with 9 men vs 12.

The game was funny then it just started getting tragic. Very odd spectacle indeed.

I'd argue 13v9, up from 12v10 against Liverpool. The refereeing we've been seeing lately is just tragic. I just don't understand what is going on with all these poor calls. It didn't seem to be so bad in the least, normally the big decisions were *most* the time right calls, but now the refs seems to just want to make as big headlines...

Wish there was some way to adopt the American football ref system in, but like Drone said above, it'd kill the pace of the game
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 29 2012 12:51 GMT
#2898
You could argue the first foul by Torres could have been a red too. In spain at least it could have, I know EPL is more permissive in that aspect.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 12:59:43
October 29 2012 12:56 GMT
#2899
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Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
October 29 2012 13:05 GMT
#2900
Yeah, and I bet like you feel like you've been due a few decisions your way hurr durr
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
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