GG, well done Norwich. Pathetic display from Arsenal. Back to the drawing board. We need a defensive mid, and Diaby ain't it unless Wenger gives him augmented limbs. Koscielny as defensive mid as a solution perhaps? Can't compete for CL spots with shitty defence like this. Need to be able to win bad matches, but we clearly can't do that. Depressing.

On October 21 2012 03:25 Pads wrote:
Do Arsenal fans rate Gervinho? He seems useless to me, makes the wrong decision every time.

Watching him play is depressing. He's got pace, but little else.

mememolly

4765 Posts

October 20 2012 18:28 GMT

#2722

On October 21 2012 03:25 Pads wrote:
Do Arsenal fans rate Gervinho? He seems useless to me, makes the wrong decision every time.

he's average, but what do you expect from a club that sells all their best players (to rivals no less)

sharkie

Austria18635 Posts

October 20 2012 19:00 GMT

#2723

lol one loss and Arsenal fans are all pessimistic again

how about you have more trust in wenger?

Sophia

Germany115 Posts

October 20 2012 19:05 GMT

#2724

On October 21 2012 01:23 sharkie wrote:

Show nested quote +

that happens if you have a world class striker up front and not bad gomez

That happens if your first 8 games are against Fürth, Düsseldorf and all these 3rd-Class teams.

sharkie

Austria18635 Posts

October 20 2012 19:21 GMT

#2725

On October 21 2012 04:05 Sophia wrote:

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That happens if your first 8 games are against Fürth, Düsseldorf and all these 3rd-Class teams.

schalke away is a 3rd class team? ok

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

October 20 2012 21:02 GMT

#2726

-_- i think barca shoudl buy some extra defenders

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 20 2012 21:05 GMT

#2727

Unbelievably harsh yellow and red.

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

October 20 2012 21:07 GMT

#2728

1. every time i see tito i still want to see pep
2. that was no fucking way deserving a yellow.
3. MESSIIII

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 20 2012 21:33 GMT

#2729

This game is hilarious.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 20 2012 21:40 GMT

#2730

This ref, like 99% of the refs in Spain, is too trigger happy with cards.

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

October 20 2012 21:41 GMT

#2731

turns out when you lose 3/4 of your back 4, your defense goes to shit

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 20 2012 21:43 GMT

#2732

On October 21 2012 06:41 CeriseCherries wrote:
turns out when you lose 3/4 of your back 4, your defense goes to shit

This is news to me. Could you please provide theoretical & statistical data to back that claim up?

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

October 20 2012 21:44 GMT

#2733

On October 21 2012 06:43 Telcontar wrote:

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This is news to me. Could you please provide theoretical & statistical data to back that claim up?

3>2>1

Rebs

Pakistan10726 Posts

October 20 2012 22:16 GMT

#2734

On October 21 2012 04:00 sharkie wrote:
lol one loss and Arsenal fans are all pessimistic again

how about you have more trust in wenger?

Because if your a Championship contender you dont drop points in the manner Arsenal do, for a while now.

Its not about one loss but the general flatness of the performance and the inability to grind out results against clearly inferior opposition.

A loss here and there wont upset anyone but the fact of the matter is that after 8 Matchdays, Arsenal are sitting in 9th, 10 points of the pace and below West ham, Spurs and Fulham. The only London club below them funnily enough is QPR.

That effectively means you dont win the league and you scrounge around for a top 4 finish on the back of a strong string of performances that we all know Arsenal will likely put in at some point over the course of the season.

So its not just "lol one loss". I would be very worried as an Arsenal fan because the pattern is just repeating, for people used to fighting for the title and always being in the discussion at the start of the decade this is becoming all to familiar.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

October 20 2012 23:34 GMT

#2735

Faith? What do you think Arsenal fans have been living off for the past 7 years? Wenger certainly deserves faith for all he's done with Arsenal, but not unconditional faith.

NuclearJudas

6546 Posts

October 21 2012 15:22 GMT

#2736

If you think fans have lost fans in Wenger because of one loss, you're really fucking stupid. We're no fair-weather fans. If all it took to lose trust in Wenger was one loss, he'd be out of here pretty fast don't you think? He's a fantastic manager and one of the best in taking young players and turning them into stars. Last season, I felt like it was finally out time. Boom. Fab and Nasri leave the team. Felt really exciting before this season as well. Boom. Van Persie gone.

Rebs pretty much nailed it on the head for me. It's not unheard of Arsenal dropping points with a shit performance to relegation candidates.

We have two major problems as of right now in my eyes:

1. Goalkeepers - Sadly not much to do about it but wait till Woj gets back. The two first choices have been injured most of the season so far. Mannone is not a bad keeper, but he is not a solid one either. The rebound he left for Holt is not something you see a top class keeper give away.

2. Defensive mid - If you've read my posts in this thread about Arsenal, I harp on this often. We don't have a capable defensive midfielder, and it shows. Look att Norwich's attacks last night. There's no big prescence in our midfield to stop the pressure, to take the tackles, to steal the ball. Diaby looked like a born-again man when he dominated Liverpool, but then he broke again. Coquelin is an interesting prospect, but he's nowhere ready. It's time to open the wallet again. Wenger likes France, so why not buy Etienne Capoue or Yann M'Vila? We have bought several players this season, but there's still a hole in our midfield. For a temporary solution, why not try Koscielny out for size? He's better than sitting on the bench and he's good on the ball as well.

We can and should be doing better. Hopefully we will be going forward.