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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 04 2013 13:34 GMT
#2181
On August 04 2013 13:00 Bonham wrote:
If you don't GPS your long runs, how do you track the mileage accurately?


I use mapmyride.com for a ballpark and I know when time I start my runs and when I finish them. I also measure out all of my courses by biking them with a GPS first, after I plot it on mapmyride, so I can estimate milage with relative accuracy.

More importantly, what are badger miles?
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 04 2013 18:42 GMT
#2182
On August 04 2013 22:34 Badfatpanda wrote:

More importantly, what are badger miles?


Someone who actually runs them will probably jump in and correct me, but I believe running badger miles means going out and just tracking time and assuming you run seven minutes a mile. When filling in your log, you just divide the run in minutes by seven to get the mileage. So, if you ran for an hour, you'd put 8.5 miles in your log.

The idea originated from the University of Wisconsin, the mascot of which is a badger. Hence the name. The Wisconsin runners would generally run faster than 7 min/mile in training, so their actual mileage would exceed what they put in their logs. This is thought to fool the brain into thinking the body is worker less than it actually is.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 04 2013 20:22 GMT
#2183
After today I think I'm done doing 30 minutes at 5.8 mph. Next time I'm going to do 30 minutes at 6mph. This is about .1 miles short of a 5k in 30 minutes! I think it will be a good accomplishment. I'm going to want to check my 1.5 mile time soon as well.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 04 2013 22:15 GMT
#2184
On August 05 2013 05:22 micronesia wrote:
After today I think I'm done doing 30 minutes at 5.8 mph. Next time I'm going to do 30 minutes at 6mph. This is about .1 miles short of a 5k in 30 minutes! I think it will be a good accomplishment. I'm going to want to check my 1.5 mile time soon as well.


No worse than 13, probably closer to to 12.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 05 2013 03:18 GMT
#2185
On August 05 2013 07:15 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 05:22 micronesia wrote:
After today I think I'm done doing 30 minutes at 5.8 mph. Next time I'm going to do 30 minutes at 6mph. This is about .1 miles short of a 5k in 30 minutes! I think it will be a good accomplishment. I'm going to want to check my 1.5 mile time soon as well.


No worse than 13, probably closer to to 12.

For the 1.5 mile run, a 'satisfactory' for my age is 14 minutes, whereas the next level up, 'good,' is 12:53. 12:53 is just about a 7mph pace (about an 8:35 mile). I will try it on the treadmill, and then on the track next time I am there.

For reference, the next level up is "excellent" which is 10:52, or an 8.3 mph pace (~7:15 mile). This is well outside of my reach right now.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 05 2013 20:08 GMT
#2186
I set the treadmill for 7 mph and completed 1.5 miles in 12:53! According to the PRT, my running performance is now 'good'! It was pretty tough though, so I don't see myself doing better than this for a while.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#2187
On August 06 2013 05:08 micronesia wrote:
I set the treadmill for 7 mph and completed 1.5 miles in 12:53! According to the PRT, my running performance is now 'good'! It was pretty tough though, so I don't see myself doing better than this for a while.


Nice work buddy! Seems like just a few weeks ago you were worried if you would ever get faster
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 05 2013 22:23 GMT
#2188
I'm going to be honest. If I didn't have a gym routine where 4-5 times a week I go to the gym, run on the treadmill, do my strength training, then go home and have a protein shake, all in lieu of a job or any major responsibilities this summer, I would not have made this progress. I'm in the best shape of my life, and this is the only reason why. One major change to my life/schedule and the house of cards comes tumbling down.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 05 2013 22:46 GMT
#2189
On August 05 2013 03:42 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 22:34 Badfatpanda wrote:

More importantly, what are badger miles?


Someone who actually runs them will probably jump in and correct me, but I believe running badger miles means going out and just tracking time and assuming you run seven minutes a mile. When filling in your log, you just divide the run in minutes by seven to get the mileage. So, if you ran for an hour, you'd put 8.5 miles in your log.

The idea originated from the University of Wisconsin, the mascot of which is a badger. Hence the name. The Wisconsin runners would generally run faster than 7 min/mile in training, so their actual mileage would exceed what they put in their logs. This is thought to fool the brain into thinking the body is worker less than it actually is.


That is fucking hysterical, and awesome.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
August 05 2013 23:50 GMT
#2190
On August 06 2013 07:46 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2013 03:42 Bonham wrote:
On August 04 2013 22:34 Badfatpanda wrote:

More importantly, what are badger miles?


Someone who actually runs them will probably jump in and correct me, but I believe running badger miles means going out and just tracking time and assuming you run seven minutes a mile. When filling in your log, you just divide the run in minutes by seven to get the mileage. So, if you ran for an hour, you'd put 8.5 miles in your log.

The idea originated from the University of Wisconsin, the mascot of which is a badger. Hence the name. The Wisconsin runners would generally run faster than 7 min/mile in training, so their actual mileage would exceed what they put in their logs. This is thought to fool the brain into thinking the body is worker less than it actually is.


That is fucking hysterical, and awesome.


I also read some speculation, that if you take a step farther, it's also a way to get you to ultimately slow down and actually recover.

If you have no option to log it as time / 7, then why run faster? You aren't getting credit for the miles.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 07 2013 03:14 GMT
#2191
I can't run badger miles yet D:

I tried running a mile today since I was short on time... 8 minutes. Still better than I could do before.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 07 2013 04:54 GMT
#2192
On August 07 2013 12:14 micronesia wrote:
I can't run badger miles yet D:

I tried running a mile today since I was short on time... 8 minutes. Still better than I could do before.


8:00? If so you can do 12:20 or so 1.5 mile
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 07 2013 05:45 GMT
#2193
On August 07 2013 13:54 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 12:14 micronesia wrote:
I can't run badger miles yet D:

I tried running a mile today since I was short on time... 8 minutes. Still better than I could do before.


8:00? If so you can do 12:20 or so 1.5 mile

If I can run a mile in 8 minutes, doesn't that mean a 1.5 mile run in 12:20 would be over 97% of the speed I ran the mile in? I would think you would slow down the pace a bit more to increase your distance 50% from 1 mile to 1.5 miles. I did do about 12:50, but 30 seconds seems like a pretty big jump right now.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 07 2013 06:30 GMT
#2194
On August 07 2013 14:45 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2013 13:54 L_Master wrote:
On August 07 2013 12:14 micronesia wrote:
I can't run badger miles yet D:

I tried running a mile today since I was short on time... 8 minutes. Still better than I could do before.


8:00? If so you can do 12:20 or so 1.5 mile

If I can run a mile in 8 minutes, doesn't that mean a 1.5 mile run in 12:20 would be over 97% of the speed I ran the mile in? I would think you would slow down the pace a bit more to increase your distance 50% from 1 mile to 1.5 miles. I did do about 12:50, but 30 seconds seems like a pretty big jump right now.


Yea, there isn't that significant of a slowdown between 1 and 1.5 miles. In fact, the WR for 2 miles is run at 94% of the pace of the WR in the mile, so that doubling of distance results in only a 6% loss of speed.

Even more astonishing to me is that the slowdown to double from 5000m to 10000m is a mere 4.5%.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 07 2013 15:11 GMT
#2195
World champs this weekend! I'm keenly interested to see how the 5,000, 10,000 and marathon play out. In the first two, the favourite has gotta be Farah, but the irrational part of my brain, which is quite large, is cheering hopelessly for Bekele. Kawauchi is my man in the marathon.

Anyone else excited or interested? Anyone have a good way of watching the thing on friggin' Moscow time?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#2196
Yea, it would be pretty hopeless for Bekele...as he isnt there

Ethiopian Federation did some wierd shit, initially saying pre classic was selection, which Kennster won. Then they decided to go by time, and he never really got s good race and basically raced once or twice a week I into the ground. Kenya and Ethiopia have very fucked up federations/selection processes.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
August 07 2013 18:19 GMT
#2197
I did my first run on pavement today. I used runningmap.com to figure out some simple routes in my neighborhood that are nice distances (one loop is 1.5 miles, another road is 1 mile long, etc). I took it easy and did a 1.3 mile route (don't want to overdo it when starting on pavement).

I can't listen to music because there are too many cars and other obstacles to worry about, but at least there is a breeze unlike running on the treadmill. Eventually I plan to move away from running these carefully measured routes and just run around the neighborhood in general, and maybe seeing how far away I can venture with one continuous run.
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Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 07 2013 19:31 GMT
#2198
On August 08 2013 03:13 L_Master wrote:
Yea, it would be pretty hopeless for Bekele...as he isnt there



He's listed on IAAF's website as a competitor here. I think he might be a backup or an alternate or something.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 07 2013 19:48 GMT
#2199
On August 08 2013 04:31 Bonham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:13 L_Master wrote:
Yea, it would be pretty hopeless for Bekele...as he isnt there



He's listed on IAAF's website as a competitor here. I think he might be a backup or an alternate or something.


Correct. He is the alternate. The guys running are Merga, Jeilan (2011 Gold medalist but has been injured till recently), Abera Kuma, and of course the monster himself Dejen Gebremeskel.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Bonham
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 07 2013 21:16 GMT
#2200
Well let's hope Merga or Kuma sprain an ankle or something then.
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