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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 06 2013 01:59 GMT
#881
On April 05 2013 22:33 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 08:35 infinity21 wrote:
How much do you guys spend a month on groceries?
I'm probably spending around $600, not counting when I eat out.


For ~600 bucks you could eat at chipotle 3 times a day for 30 days.......

I eat naturally raised meat which increases my cost. Canada doesn't have chipotle places anyways.
Official Entusman #21
Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
April 08 2013 16:56 GMT
#882
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22042995

http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nm.3145.html

I don't have access to the full article, so I can't confirm my suspicion that this is just more correlation = causation crap, but a claim in the abstract caught my attention: "We demonstrate here that metabolism by intestinal microbiota of dietary l-carnitine, a trimethylamine abundant in red meat, also produces TMAO and accelerates atherosclerosis in mice." This seems to suggest that they have a mechanism pinned down by which TMAO accelerates atherosclerosis. Is anyone else familiar with this or other similar studies who can speak to its validity?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
April 10 2013 12:27 GMT
#883
Had an awesome dinner the other night. Sweet potato with the insides scooped out and mixed with sour cream, cheese, corn, black bean, and taco meat. Kinda like a twice-baked potato if you're familiar with that. It was delicious.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
April 10 2013 19:15 GMT
#884
any suggestions for foods that cool you off? this week, DC's been getting up to 86 F and i'm used to cold weather. not that im complaining, i like getting all that good sunlight, but man is it hot. should i eat less beef and pork? more veggies, less meat?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
April 11 2013 02:27 GMT
#885
On April 11 2013 04:15 ieatkids5 wrote:
any suggestions for foods that cool you off? this week, DC's been getting up to 86 F and i'm used to cold weather. not that im complaining, i like getting all that good sunlight, but man is it hot. should i eat less beef and pork? more veggies, less meat?



frozen fruit! :D

doesnt eating anything raise your body temp? It doesnt matter if its meat or veggies right?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 03:46:03
April 11 2013 03:45 GMT
#886
ieatkids where do you workout by DC? I've been to NOVA strong a few times in anondale (my parents live in ashburn)

also rofl at my diet today:

4 eggs and 3 pc bacon and milk (probably ~50g protein)
double meat (pork and beef) burrito bowl (rice, lettuce, salsa, beans) (probably ~60-80g protein)
2 whole chicken breasts (another 80g protein)
1 whey 1 casein protein shake (we got a bunch of free samples for rugby woot) (another 60g protein)

...I think that puts me at over 250g protein, and probably under 100g fat and carbs each. didn't even workout today.

dat cut.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
April 11 2013 18:28 GMT
#887
On April 11 2013 11:27 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:15 ieatkids5 wrote:
any suggestions for foods that cool you off? this week, DC's been getting up to 86 F and i'm used to cold weather. not that im complaining, i like getting all that good sunlight, but man is it hot. should i eat less beef and pork? more veggies, less meat?



frozen fruit! :D

doesnt eating anything raise your body temp? It doesnt matter if its meat or veggies right?

ill try the fruit.

i dunno, i just had the idea that some things make you feel warmer and soem cooler. like eating hot/spicy food definitely makes me warmer, so it's something i avoid if i want to cool off. hot tea and hot soups as well. so i figured people might have some ideas for things that cool (or at least, increae your body temp the least).

decafchicken
i'm actually in arlington, so not too far from annandale where all the good korean bbq places are! i just workout in my apartment's gym, since i've already paid for it and i don't want to spend more money on a real gym right now. it doesn't have a barbell, so all the exercises i'm doing are dumbbell and bodyweight stuff.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 20:53:57
April 11 2013 19:20 GMT
#888
Yeah i went out to some great korean bbq for one of the teamliquid dc dinners a few months ago. if you ever get the itch to do some oly lifting/strong man/powerlifting/cross fit you should check out nova strong, really nice people there and lots of good equipment. I've dropped in a few times when i'm in town and they never charged me.

Things that make you run hotter are called thermogenics and usually marketed by supplement companies to lose weight. Most of the good ones are either banned or just contain caffeine or something. A cup of coffee always warms me up. As for cooling down i think your body actually spends more energy consuming cold things than warm (source needed). Not sure if there's anything you can eat that lowers your body temp.


edit: I was going to eat complete clean today guys. Really i was. I even brought a protein shake to work for a snack. Of course someone comes back with free chicago pizza and leaves it sitting 5 feet from me T_T I caved and had a tiny slice. fml. TOMORROW IS THE DAY
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 11 2013 21:42 GMT
#889
On April 12 2013 04:20 decafchicken wrote:
Yeah i went out to some great korean bbq for one of the teamliquid dc dinners a few months ago. if you ever get the itch to do some oly lifting/strong man/powerlifting/cross fit you should check out nova strong, really nice people there and lots of good equipment. I've dropped in a few times when i'm in town and they never charged me.

Things that make you run hotter are called thermogenics and usually marketed by supplement companies to lose weight. Most of the good ones are either banned or just contain caffeine or something. A cup of coffee always warms me up. As for cooling down i think your body actually spends more energy consuming cold things than warm (source needed). Not sure if there's anything you can eat that lowers your body temp.


edit: I was going to eat complete clean today guys. Really i was. I even brought a protein shake to work for a snack. Of course someone comes back with free chicago pizza and leaves it sitting 5 feet from me T_T I caved and had a tiny slice. fml. TOMORROW IS THE DAY

Ice cream = lower body temp? lol

No need to stress out over eating a slice of pizza imo. As long as you're eating mostly clean, you're getting most of the benefits. I realized that eating pretty clean makes me lose weight really fast. Even though I had instant noodles almost every day, I still dropped 4-5lbs in a couple of weeks.
Official Entusman #21
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
April 11 2013 23:19 GMT
#890
Haha I know I'm just being a perfectionist
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 14 2013 18:29 GMT
#891
how healthy are the food from the halal carts in new york city?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 17:23:59
April 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#892
On April 15 2013 03:29 Kenpachi wrote:
how healthy are the food from the halal carts in new york city?

ive never had the halal food in nyc before, but the middle eastern food here in DC tends to be pretty salty. lots of salt, black pepper, and other seasonings. other than that, getting a good beef or lamb dish, with some peppers and onions, seems alright. theyre not grass-fed meat, and they probably use canola or peanut oil to cook the food, but once in a while won't do too much harm.

splurged at work today. someone brought back some subs, and i ended up eating half a meatball sub and half a vegetarian sub (cucumber, hummus, lettuce, peppers). i hadnt eaten any wheat products for 2 weeks...

also, cod and tilapia cooked on the pan with coconut oil is soooo good. add a side of steamed spinach and cabbage, with some white rice, and my dinner is all set.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
April 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#893
What 200 calories of different food looks like:

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-200-calories-looks-like-2013-2?fb_action_ids=742021402010&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582#

Broccoli imba haha.
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 18 2013 14:40 GMT
#894
thats pretty cool haha
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
April 18 2013 18:20 GMT
#895
as is celery lol. the amount of coke that amounts to 200kcal is a lot more than i thought though.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
April 21 2013 10:24 GMT
#896
I'm gonna try leangains, but I have a question. On off days, it requires high fat/low carb intake. What does it mean by high fat as in the quantity and the ratio of that to carbs? and what type of fat?

The main sources of fat I have are eggs, coconut oil, and coconut milk. And I remember one time when I consumed too much saturated fat (1 can of coconut milk) that the next day I felt a slight burn around my heart area, which scared the shit out of me (I pretty much didn't have anything other than saturated fat and lots of protein because they were just so filling for the entire day).
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
April 22 2013 03:37 GMT
#897
On April 21 2013 19:24 billy5000 wrote:
I'm gonna try leangains, but I have a question. On off days, it requires high fat/low carb intake. What does it mean by high fat as in the quantity and the ratio of that to carbs? and what type of fat?

The main sources of fat I have are eggs, coconut oil, and coconut milk. And I remember one time when I consumed too much saturated fat (1 can of coconut milk) that the next day I felt a slight burn around my heart area, which scared the shit out of me (I pretty much didn't have anything other than saturated fat and lots of protein because they were just so filling for the entire day).



I (loosely ) follow Leangains, it just means that instead of slamming down asstons of carbs on rest days, you cut back on carbs and then you work in some fatter types of foods, eggs are great, they're a rest day staple for me
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
April 22 2013 05:53 GMT
#898
On September 03 2011 03:53 eshlow wrote:2. Quality of foods. The quality of foods approach is focused on eliminating caloric dense foods with little nutritional value and replacing them with calorically sparse foods with high nutritional value.

For example, a quality of foods approach would focus on eliminating all junk foods and drinks -- juices, sodas, sports drinks, chips, cookies, donuts, candies, etc. -- and replace them with nutrient rich foods such as fruits, vegetables, meat, birds, fish, eggs, etc. which also have considerably more nutrients than the former.

Basically, the rule is to eliminate processed foods and replace them with real foods.

This is my preferred approach because of a couple of key reasons. First, you can eat 'til you're full. Satiety is a big reason why we eat, and people don't like to be hungry. Since we are eating less calorically dense foods, we can eat 'til we are full and still lose weight. Second, we are getting more nutrients and thus improving our health.


Sorry if that was commented already, but I wanted to say that this is a myth. Eggs on beacon is a calorie dense food, but it is great for weight loss, satiety isn't regulated by the volume of food that you are eating, but by its effects on hormone production. If you would try to eat only fat (keto fast on coconut oil) you will find it hard to eat more then 600kcal a day despite eating the most calorie dense food that there is.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
April 22 2013 12:18 GMT
#899
Yeah, you could nitpick or read the rest of the section. It's apparent to me he's referring to calorically dense/low nutritional value foods like juices, sodas, sports drinks, chips, cookies, donuts, candies because he says to eliminate... "juices, sodas, sports drinks, chips, cookies, donuts, candies". Feel free to eat calorically dense foods if they have high nutritional value obviously. If you're hung up on satiety, yeah hormones play a role but he a) recommends to eat the very foods that help satiety with hormone production and b) eating 3 heads of broccoli is going to feel like a ton psychologically but is only 600cal. If you're just trying to make things more clear for people reading, that's cool
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 12:28:55
April 22 2013 12:27 GMT
#900
On April 22 2013 14:53 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 03:53 eshlow wrote:2. Quality of foods. The quality of foods approach is focused on eliminating caloric dense foods with little nutritional value and replacing them with calorically sparse foods with high nutritional value.

For example, a quality of foods approach would focus on eliminating all junk foods and drinks -- juices, sodas, sports drinks, chips, cookies, donuts, candies, etc. -- and replace them with nutrient rich foods such as fruits, vegetables, meat, birds, fish, eggs, etc. which also have considerably more nutrients than the former.

Basically, the rule is to eliminate processed foods and replace them with real foods.

This is my preferred approach because of a couple of key reasons. First, you can eat 'til you're full. Satiety is a big reason why we eat, and people don't like to be hungry. Since we are eating less calorically dense foods, we can eat 'til we are full and still lose weight. Second, we are getting more nutrients and thus improving our health.


Sorry if that was commented already, but I wanted to say that this is a myth. Eggs on beacon is a calorie dense food, but it is great for weight loss, satiety isn't regulated by the volume of food that you are eating, but by its effects on hormone production. If you would try to eat only fat (keto fast on coconut oil) you will find it hard to eat more then 600kcal a day despite eating the most calorie dense food that there is.


he writes "eliminating caloric dense foods with little nutritional value". (you didn't highlight the last part and therefore took it out of context).

eggs and bacon for example don't fall into that catogerie, he even specifically names meat and eggs later as good/quality food.
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