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capu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland224 Posts
September 18 2014 12:02 GMT
#3561
being September and all, I'd start with a proven strength program and eat on a moderate calorie surplus and come Feb - March you have plenty of time to cut the excess fat 'till the next summer and then you'll have some muscles to show for it too. Dieting from where you are now doesn't make much sense especially if your muscles are underdeveloped.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
September 18 2014 12:23 GMT
#3562
On September 18 2014 20:13 Shock710 wrote:
well i actually dont know how skinny me at 65kg would be like, lol i dont want to be like a stickman i would probably stop at a weight where i was like hmm this seems nice. Building muscle im not really against it i was just wondering if my thighs would slim down cause its feel the around the same size as when it was kinda fatty and i could like pinch the fat atm now i can barely pinch any of it and if i tense up its really hard but it didnt get any slimmer which was what i wanted (theres probaby excess fat still there to burn) i would probably just work on the goals one at a time, the looking good naked isnt really a top thing but u know if i could have it for like free why not lol.
So as ur saying atm i just have to eat less? probably still regularly excerises, i do try and slowly increase my exercising, i go by slow numbers when i feel like i can push on. when i first started running i could only do 2 laps, walk one to catch my breath and then 2 again, i feel pretty proud on 8 XD even tho it probably sucks.

overall i just wanna slim down on my thighs and get rid of some of that belly fat, i can feel my abs when i press them but at the lower part of my stomach its like chubby and


If there isnt much fat on your thighs, it will be impossible to slim them down unless you intentionally let the muscles atrophy. You can do this through a caloric deficit and not training your legs (avoid walking even). Low protein diet also helps. Seems madness to me to want destroy perfectly good muscle, but to each their own.

Instead I would recommend investing in non-skinny jeans. Not everyone has the genetics for that shit. I think they look ridiculous on any man, but again, to each their own.

To get your abs to show, you simply need to lose bodyfat. But, if you don't have atleast some decent muscle mass it will be very difficult to get your abs to show at all without going full anorexia. Doing a load of situps and dieting isn't going to cut it for most people. Skinny people have to get down to like 6-8% bodyfat, which does not look good on them and should not be sustainable. I would also recommend counting your calories for a few days to make sure you aren't undereating, because it sounds like you are. I don't consistently count calories but I do it occasionally to see if I'm in the right neighbourhood. If you want to build muscle (or even just avoid losing muscle while dieting), get a gym membership and do some free-weight training.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
September 18 2014 13:42 GMT
#3563
Yeah, really, abs on a skinny guy are like big boobs on a fat chick. They don't count.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 18 2014 14:50 GMT
#3564
On September 18 2014 22:42 zatic wrote:
Yeah, really, abs on a skinny guy are like big boobs on a fat chick. They don't count.

hahahaha. love this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 03 2014 08:48 GMT
#3565
Hey, anyone able to recommend good material (writing/research) regarding athletic (sports) workouts (weight room) vs body building?
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
October 03 2014 10:27 GMT
#3566
On October 03 2014 17:48 y0su wrote:
Hey, anyone able to recommend good material (writing/research) regarding athletic (sports) workouts (weight room) vs body building?


Which sports?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 04 2014 00:11 GMT
#3567
On October 03 2014 19:27 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 17:48 y0su wrote:
Hey, anyone able to recommend good material (writing/research) regarding athletic (sports) workouts (weight room) vs body building?


Which sports?

American Football
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 04 2014 11:19 GMT
#3568
On October 04 2014 09:11 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 19:27 Crushinator wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:48 y0su wrote:
Hey, anyone able to recommend good material (writing/research) regarding athletic (sports) workouts (weight room) vs body building?


Which sports?

American Football

Dr. Brad Schoenfeld has done some research comparing the hypertrophic responses after a bodybuilding program vs. a powerlifting program, if you're into that. I can try and find the article if you want to know more (you can probably google Brad Schoenfeld and read any of his stuff though; he and Alan Aragon are two of the leading experts in this area). Long story short, he found that they elicit the same hypertrophic (muscle building) response, but powerlifting has the additional benefit of increased strength. However, the bodybuilding program took like 1/3 of the time.

http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/blog/bodybuilding-vs-powerlifting-type-training-which-builds-more-strength-and-muscle/

I hope this is what you were looking for.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
October 11 2014 03:59 GMT
#3569
Tips for making gym less boring?

Was good for a bit, but since the first week I've not been able to recreate the initial buzz. Getting fit for ski season is just about enough motivation but meh.

Tried varying up routine, musics.

I just find it so mind numbing.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
October 11 2014 07:16 GMT
#3570
Lift heavier and reduce rest time. I used to be bored and would listen to audiobooks in between. But if you work hard, keep your rest time between sets to 2 minutes and keep your heart rate up (not just sitting around during rest) your brain won't have the capacity to be bored.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 11 2014 07:37 GMT
#3571
I find single joint exercises are really boing so I don't do those.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
October 12 2014 08:29 GMT
#3572
Hello ! This is my first post but I've been lurking TL, and especially the sports section, for a while..

I'm here to ask the advice of more experienced people I will have the opportunity to go to the gym twice a week basically for free (at my university there's a "free" gym, but you have only 2 access per week). The problem is that it's impossible to get one of the instructor to follow you during the opening hours (too many people, you have to go there and do your work by yourself). So I got a few questions:

+ what program should I follow to begin with? I have the starting strength book but honestly I will never have time to read it through and plan my own workout accurately (I have a crazy schedule and I dedicate most of my time to studies.. I don't have enough time to read all the papers I should.. )

+ I went to the gym for a very short period a couple of years ago, so I learnt some of the movements and exercises, but I probably would need someone to follow me at the beginning to make sure I don't do anything stupid. My plan would be to go to a private gym a couple (2-3) times and get advices from a professional instructor about the exercises I plan to do, and then practice by myself at uni (of course I can get some advices from the teachers at the university gym too)

My goal is simply and mainly to improve my strength. I played rugby for many many years in the past and I would like to restart, but I lost a lot of my upper body strength, and it's difficult to have fun playing rugby if you are not fit enough to play at a good level.

I should also mention that I run quite consistently (I'm preparing a marathon that I'll run at the beginning of november, so twice during the week + a long run during the week end, at least), so I think I have a good "cardio" (don't know if it's the right word :D ..) and my legs are well trained :D

Any advice is very very welcome as I feel like I'm a total newbie about this..

p.s. from the diet point of view.. I have (i think) a good diet: I never eat at the university restaurant and I always prepare my food trying to balance the main macro-nutrients (my sister, luckily for me, studies nutrition at the university, so she gave me a lot of pointers and a good schedule to follow)..


p.p.s. One last thing.. I'm living in France so if someone can point me to a place/website where I can see the name of the gym exercises in french that would be extremely useful!


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Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
October 12 2014 10:35 GMT
#3573
@VHbb

Starting Strength is a 3 day a week program but you can easily adapt it to 2 days a week by adding a set here or there. I would just do the squating and pressing 4x5 and then just do the program as intended, alternating A and B. It would be better to go 3 times a week, but its better than nothing.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
October 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#3574
Hey thanks Crushinator !
What do you think of the rest of my plan? Seems doable ? I could probably get a third access to the gym, but I don't think I could conciliate it with the runs and, in a while, the rugby training, time-wise..

This evening I'll try to go through the SS book and try to find a good schedule for a 2-day training.. any advice is welcome

ciao!
My life for Aiur !
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-13 09:01:14
October 13 2014 09:01 GMT
#3575
On October 13 2014 03:34 VHbb wrote:
Hey thanks Crushinator !
What do you think of the rest of my plan? Seems doable ? I could probably get a third access to the gym, but I don't think I could conciliate it with the runs and, in a while, the rugby training, time-wise..

This evening I'll try to go through the SS book and try to find a good schedule for a 2-day training.. any advice is welcome

ciao!


I think combining 2 days with running and rugby will not be a problem, but 3 days may be more problematic as you said yourself. In the start, first 2 weeks or so, you should be a little careful not to do too much besides the lifting. Your body will not be used to it and you want to avoid inflammation of connective tissue due to incomplete recovery, after 2-3 weeks you should be sufficiently adapted to just do what you normally do. Good luck!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20159 Posts
October 13 2014 16:17 GMT
#3576
On October 13 2014 03:34 VHbb wrote:
Hey thanks Crushinator !
What do you think of the rest of my plan? Seems doable ? I could probably get a third access to the gym, but I don't think I could conciliate it with the runs and, in a while, the rugby training, time-wise..

This evening I'll try to go through the SS book and try to find a good schedule for a 2-day training.. any advice is welcome

ciao!


Here's the abbreviated version:
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Three_Flavors_of_Starting_Strength

Dedicated strength work twice a week should help you get ready for your marathon and rugby (fellow rugby player here!)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
October 13 2014 21:24 GMT
#3577
Thanks decafchicken, the link is very useful !
Tomorrow I'll go to this private gym I found near my place (actually I booked a free entrance and I'll maybe sign up for one month so that I can have a good teacher for the first times) and I'll ask to teach me the basic exercises/movements.. I'll let you know how it goes !
My life for Aiur !
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 14 2014 10:26 GMT
#3578
Yes, for in-season rugby, strength work 2 times a week is fine. For in-season marathon training it's probably too much. Since your marathon is quite soon, you probably wont make it to weights that are really going to interfere with your marathon training though.

just alternate the workouts for a full body routine twice a week, and then bump it up to 3 times a week after your season ends. If you have any questions about whether you're doing an exercise right, just record yourself doing it and post the video here.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
October 14 2014 19:49 GMT
#3579
Ok first try was a failure.. I went to this gym where I had one free entrance but I found out only there that it was a "free" gym (meaning no instructor/teacher to follow anybody) .. I don't have a lot of experience so I ended up doing some random exercises copying more or less the other guys there (honestly I did it just because I didn't want to have wasted my time going there..) : I really don't feel confident enough to do the SS exercises by myself for the first time without any guidance.

I guess I will have to find a good gym at least for the first times For this week I think I'll go back to running (the last 34k run before the marathon is this saturday...!)
My life for Aiur !
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 14 2014 19:53 GMT
#3580
I totally get that feeling. Go ahead and youtube a bunch of videos of the lifts and then go to the gym and be confident. Try to mimic what you saw. Best thing you can do then is take a video of yourself so you can a) compare it to what you saw b) post videos here for critique.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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