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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 04 2011 01:43 GMT
#12481
On October 04 2011 10:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Motherfucking squats. I took a 3 day break and the pain dulled a bit in my legs. I managed to do a few sets instead of 1 rep this time but my legs still feel like a knife is cutting the tendons, the pain is so SHARP.

To be more specific, the only part of my legs that hurt is in the groin area, so the upper inner thighs section. The weight of the squat doesn't bother me, and even if I go down in weight I feel like it will be the same pain.



Is this a stretching/flexibility issue where you're going too far down for your muscles to handle?

Or is it soreness?

Or is it an actual injury?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:22:09
October 04 2011 01:54 GMT
#12482
On October 04 2011 10:43 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 10:22 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Motherfucking squats. I took a 3 day break and the pain dulled a bit in my legs. I managed to do a few sets instead of 1 rep this time but my legs still feel like a knife is cutting the tendons, the pain is so SHARP.

To be more specific, the only part of my legs that hurt is in the groin area, so the upper inner thighs section. The weight of the squat doesn't bother me, and even if I go down in weight I feel like it will be the same pain.



Is this a stretching/flexibility issue where you're going too far down for your muscles to handle?

Or is it soreness?

Or is it an actual injury?
It could be a minor groin strain since I seem to have some of it's symptoms but I don't know how to treat it if it were the case.

I have no problem going down parallel or lower. However, I'm thinking I probably didn't squeeze my glutes very well in my squat sessions which in turn forced me to squeeze with my inner thighs which is bad I think. Do you think that is the cause perhaps?

EDIT: Actually now I'm very sure that it's a groin strain. The causes could be anything from what I mentioned above to not enough adequate warm-up etc etc.

So should I stop doing squats for a week and just lightly do some groin stretches in the mean-time?
I <3 Plexa.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 04 2011 01:55 GMT
#12483
On October 04 2011 10:04 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 09:46 infinity21 wrote:
On October 04 2011 09:37 decafchicken wrote:
On October 04 2011 08:53 infinity21 wrote:
fuck fuck fuck
I only did 3 sets of squats and my back was still so dead, doing 235 DL felt way harder than doing 225 last time and my form went out the window. That's the end of my linear gains -__-
Missed my press as well today. All in all a really shitty day for me.

Need to rest my back for a while until it recovers...

fuck I'm so angry right now.


Have you done any resetting? Have you been eating/resting properly?

Do you mean deloading? I haven't reset/deloaded yet.
I'm certain I got enough food & rest. Been eating 3k calories a day and slept without an alarm.

I'm just angry at myself because I was dumb enough to think I could keep doing this although I felt the volume was becoming too much a week or two ago. Even at ~190, if I only 2.5k cal or didn't get enough sleep one time, I barely got through my sets. Not sure what I'm going to do now. I do know that my back needs to rest and recover fully and that I will not be doing 5x5 on squats anymore.


3k cal is enough? EAT MOAR om nom nom.. Also your linear gains arent done if you have deloaded/reset yet. Don't get mad at yourself, pour it in to your lifts. Train to be a motherfucker.

Yeah my weight gain has stalled recently so I'm going to try to eat 3.5k a day to get it moving up.
My lower back feels weaker every time step into the gym so I'm going to lay off the 5x5. 2 weeks ago I DLed 275 like it was nothing and did 295 the next session. Now I struggle to lift 235 off the ground with good form. I'm going to skip the back squat next time and hopefully that will be enough for my lower back to recover and start doing 3x5.
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 04 2011 02:17 GMT
#12484
Thanks for the help and replies guys I'll try that Wednesday and see if I have to deload or not.
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AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 04 2011 02:51 GMT
#12485
On October 04 2011 07:42 decafchicken wrote:
Great workout today, got 10 singles at 120kg cj and 6 at 100kg snatch all perfect.
Also, read this:
http://www.jimwendler.com/2011/09/time-to-man-up/

TRAIN TO BE A MOTHERFUCKER

And here's an article that i absolutely love. Perfectly describes my state of mind when i hit my PR 145 + 117 total, and the exact reason i missed my first snatch then went 5/5 Wish i just read it instead of spending 4 months getting bitched at by an old russian man to relax :-p I guess some lessons are better learned that way though.

http://www.theironsamurai.com/2011/09/29/zen-mind-big-snatch-part-i-yin/
http://www.theironsamurai.com/2011/09/30/zen-mind-big-snatch-part-ii-yang/


nice articles! I'm always a bit nervous on my first snatch too. Being calm definitely helps a lot.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
October 04 2011 13:05 GMT
#12486
I think I have found a staple dinner/post workout meal if you are too lazy or tired to cook meat.

I prepare about 250grams of sweet potatoes cut up and roasted.
3 x scrambled eggs mixed with 100grams of cottage cheese.

Works out to about 700 calories
Roughly
50grams of protein
30grams of fat
60grams of carbs

I buy the pre-prepared potatoes and just throw them in the oven, you'll probably end up with half as much fat if you prepare them yourself, but then you'd need to hardboil the bastards before throwing them into the oven.

It tastes surprisingly amazing! It turns out into a a great combination texture and flavour.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
October 04 2011 13:23 GMT
#12487
maybe post that here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269481
or here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262766
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
October 04 2011 14:57 GMT
#12488
lol i am weak, maxed on 80kg atg squat, couldnt do 90kg atg. :/ Did 80kg, then tried 90kg 2 times and failed, then in the end for positive thinking did 80kg again.

OHP finally over 40kg to 42.5kg. Finished all the reps, but dont think i have enought power to go to 45kg now.

Deadlift...warmup - 100kgx1-110kgx1-120kgx1-120kgx1

Normal stuff, my friend did 100kg full squat.

"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
October 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#12489
Haven't done press in a while because an injury left me with nothing else to do than press and benchpress and it got fucking boring. Got back into it today after a 3 week break. Somehow my press got stronger from not doing them (have done lots of other good stuff though)

Warmup, then
5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 1x75, 1x80 (old PR) and then it happened:

1x85 KILOGRAMZ PR YEAH BUDDY LIGHT WEIGHT BABY

This is at a bw of 77 kg.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 04 2011 15:38 GMT
#12490
So I'm moving to a new apartment tomorrow, and they gave me a toaster... wtf, a toaster =.=

Things that should be melted down to make more squat racks
1. smith machines
2. toasters
more to come.

BTW: snatches are awesome
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 04 2011 16:02 GMT
#12491
On October 05 2011 00:09 Nazarene wrote:
Haven't done press in a while because an injury left me with nothing else to do than press and benchpress and it got fucking boring. Got back into it today after a 3 week break. Somehow my press got stronger from not doing them (have done lots of other good stuff though)

Warmup, then
5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 1x75, 1x80 (old PR) and then it happened:

1x85 KILOGRAMZ PR YEAH BUDDY LIGHT WEIGHT BABY

This is at a bw of 77 kg.


wait, what? So you're off CP?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 16:15:25
October 04 2011 16:05 GMT
#12492
On October 04 2011 23:57 inimenesc wrote:
lol i am weak, maxed on 80kg atg squat, couldnt do 90kg atg. :/ Did 80kg, then tried 90kg 2 times and failed, then in the end for positive thinking did 80kg again.

OHP finally over 40kg to 42.5kg. Finished all the reps, but dont think i have enought power to go to 45kg now.

Deadlift...warmup - 100kgx1-110kgx1-120kgx1-120kgx1

Normal stuff, my friend did 100kg full squat.



any reason you did a 10kg jump on your squat? increase slowly but steadily mate!
edit: nevermind, I guess you were maxing out maybe could have tried 85kg though! still good job

MEANWHILE, IN TURKEY:
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
October 04 2011 16:31 GMT
#12493
On October 05 2011 00:38 Cambium wrote:
So I'm moving to a new apartment tomorrow, and they gave me a toaster... wtf, a toaster =.=

Things that should be melted down to make more squat racks
1. smith machines
2. toasters
more to come.

BTW: snatches are awesome


ahahahahahah
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
October 04 2011 16:33 GMT
#12494
Wow, what a weird and confusing day turned out to be yesterday.

Went for 120kg Squat, and went 5-4-6.

Had to fill my entire body with rage, and like, get really angry and shit, to be able to pull those 6 on the final set. I was grunting my life away.

also did bench 90kg .

yay for me!.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 04 2011 17:40 GMT
#12495
too much dragon funkie
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
October 04 2011 17:48 GMT
#12496


Dude looks fucking awesome, but i watch his videos as comedy.
Theres number one and theres forgotten! Fuck yeah! :D
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
October 04 2011 17:49 GMT
#12497
On October 05 2011 02:40 Cambium wrote:
too much dragon funkie

I don't think he has any pearl.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
October 04 2011 18:03 GMT
#12498
On October 05 2011 01:02 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 00:09 Nazarene wrote:
Haven't done press in a while because an injury left me with nothing else to do than press and benchpress and it got fucking boring. Got back into it today after a 3 week break. Somehow my press got stronger from not doing them (have done lots of other good stuff though)

Warmup, then
5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 1x75, 1x80 (old PR) and then it happened:

1x85 KILOGRAMZ PR YEAH BUDDY LIGHT WEIGHT BABY

This is at a bw of 77 kg.


wait, what? So you're off CP?


Wait, what? No love for the press?

Of course I am still ON Coan-Phillipi. But I have 2 CF competitions coming up and wanted to see where my press (and benchpress) was at. Tomorrow is week 6 of C-P with 1x2 of easy 170 kg.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#12499
On October 05 2011 03:03 Nazarene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 01:02 sJarl wrote:
On October 05 2011 00:09 Nazarene wrote:
Haven't done press in a while because an injury left me with nothing else to do than press and benchpress and it got fucking boring. Got back into it today after a 3 week break. Somehow my press got stronger from not doing them (have done lots of other good stuff though)

Warmup, then
5x60, 5x65, 5x70, 1x75, 1x80 (old PR) and then it happened:

1x85 KILOGRAMZ PR YEAH BUDDY LIGHT WEIGHT BABY

This is at a bw of 77 kg.


wait, what? So you're off CP?


Wait, what? No love for the press?

Of course I am still ON Coan-Phillipi. But I have 2 CF competitions coming up and wanted to see where my press (and benchpress) was at. Tomorrow is week 6 of C-P with 1x2 of easy 170 kg.


Ah good to hear. Sick press though :D
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
October 04 2011 18:23 GMT
#12500
Yeah posted a motivational for me (and everyone else) in motivational thread.

"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
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