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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
August 17 2011 11:36 GMT
#10101
On August 17 2011 14:18 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 09:58 Cambium wrote:
So there are two gyms at my university:

Gym 1 (I call this the "BW" gym):
2.5 squat racks
3 benches
2 platforms with squat racks
3 powerlifting platforms

Gym 2 (I call this the "SC2" gym):
2 squat racks
1 bench
machines...................

BW closed today and won't open until sept. 6 and I can no longer do powercleans... what should I do in its stead?


snatches imo

qft
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
August 17 2011 12:17 GMT
#10102
I hate the disparity between squats and leg press.

120kg squat then walk over and leg press like 300kg >_<
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
August 17 2011 13:08 GMT
#10103
On August 17 2011 21:17 Energies wrote:
I hate the disparity between squats and leg press.

120kg squat then walk over and leg press like 300kg >_<


Squats are so much different that you cant really compare them well.

@Logros: The hips shoot up like Mithrandir said and keeping them down helps me get more glutes into the lift. You are pulling "through" your lower back, while it should be "through" the hips.

Not the best vid but prolly gives you some idea.
+ Show Spoiler +


The belt looked it was quite loose and/or didn't help you keep your lower back tight enough. It may be my imagination though.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 17 2011 13:54 GMT
#10104
I rather squat 120kg than to leg press 400kg.

Just saying bro.

I've started doing HIIT, Cutting shit, stopped bulking, eating healthy, and I'm getting "leaner" at a steady 79kg.

WHAT IS UP! :D

Been doing a lot of ass-to-grass squat, 108kg (3x5) on Monday, I won't be hitting the gym today since it's the SuperCup of Spain (clasico yay go Barça!) and well, time to enjoy some time with friends and stuff.

I'm getting huge guys! :D Been doing a lot of PowerClean and Jerk, up to 80kg. That one felt a bit heavy, but I did it, and felt awesome :D

Other than that, I can't wait for thursday so I can hit the gym and do some Front Squats :D 92kg perhaps? :D PRPRPRPR
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
August 17 2011 16:11 GMT
#10105
On August 17 2011 21:17 Energies wrote:
I hate the disparity between squats and leg press.

120kg squat then walk over and leg press like 300kg >_<

I hate the disparity between the numbers of people that squat and the people that leg press
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 17:04:34
August 17 2011 16:57 GMT
#10106
Been camping with my family for a few days - home today to shadow at the hospital (clinical nutrition is depressing, man ) and hit the gym, then back out to the lake for tomorrow and some of friday. Kayaking, fishing, swimming, fresh air... can't beat it! I want to front squat today, but at the same time I really feel like I need to make progress on my back squat or i'm never going to bust 100kg again.

Probably having a sleep study done sometime in the next month... since I've been home, my family has told me several times that while I sleep, I make the same choking and weezing noises that my father does. My father's been wearing a mask for his sleep apnea for three years now. Maybe this will explain why im so tired all the time, since it's clearly not a problem with sleeping pattern or duration.

Dad revealed to me he bought a cow 300 pounds of grass-fed beef starting this winter, for only 400 bucks. I suggest all of you saying Paleo is expensive look into similar things at local farms. Can't beat steak at 1.30/ pound!
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 17 2011 17:20 GMT
#10107
*drools* You would need another freezer to store everything right? LOL

btw Why is nutrition so poor for hospital patients? My dad was in there for two weeks at the end of july and you could order the worst food.

on a good note, I just made some soup with grass fed ground beef, red pepper, tomatoes, broccoli, and leftover white rice. nomnomnomnomnom I will eat it over the course of the day.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 18:21:26
August 17 2011 17:33 GMT
#10108
On August 18 2011 02:20 AoN.DimSum wrote:
*drools* You would need another freezer to store everything right? LOL

btw Why is nutrition so poor for hospital patients? My dad was in there for two weeks at the end of july and you could order the worst food.

on a good note, I just made some soup with grass fed ground beef, red pepper, tomatoes, broccoli, and leftover white rice. nomnomnomnomnom I will eat it over the course of the day.


From my experience, most of the time it comes down to "we need these people to eat SOMETHING." Clearly they don't have the best diet to begin with - the diabetes, obesity, and kidney and heart disease levels are ridiculous. When you're sick and confined to a bed you're going to have a further reduced appetite, and hospitals aren't rich to the point they can let food go to waste. So its "we'll get this sugary fruity yogurt rather than plain full fat yogurt, because it's still better than crackers and juice, and people might actually eat it."

If I had ten dollars for every time i've been told "I don't like that" "I don't eat vegetables or fruit" or "i just drink pepsi" i'd be able to pay off my junior and senior years, as well as most of med school. I've only been shadowing three days a week for four weeks. The way some people look at food is just shocking to me - like it's a toy, or something you go out and do for fun.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 17 2011 17:35 GMT
#10109
Small update:

Didn't eat well enough before training which I could definitely feel. My entire performance basically stands and falls on wether I eat before training when on leangains. I was hoping to finally go 50 kg bench, but that failed to reps and though this was just silly infront of everyone. Don't know why bench psyches me so much, could be technique as well. Need to get a video of me on friday.

Still did 115 kg deadlift as planned. 70 kg squat was hard as hell. Man I hate being a weakass guy, I swear this girl near looking stronger than me by far.

Good news is it seems like I'm losing weight in a healthy weight on 2k calorie/2,5k workout days. I need some of that beef phyre
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 17 2011 17:35 GMT
#10110
Phyre -- the sleep apnea type thing could definitely be cause of fatigue and recovery issues.

re: poor food

Remember, US subsidizes like $15 billion into corn, grains, etc. which makes all of the crappy processed foods you see in any supermarket, cafeteria, etc. really cheap so..... tons of junk that actually contributes to the problem.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
August 17 2011 17:38 GMT
#10111
On August 18 2011 01:57 phyre112 wrote:

Dad revealed to me he bought a cow 300 pounds of grass-fed beef starting this winter, for only 400 bucks. I suggest all of you saying Paleo is expensive look into similar things at local farms. Can't beat steak at 1.30/ pound!


WAT


mad jelly of your beef.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 17 2011 19:50 GMT
#10112
On August 18 2011 02:35 Advocado wrote:
Small update:

Didn't eat well enough before training which I could definitely feel. My entire performance basically stands and falls on wether I eat before training when on leangains. I was hoping to finally go 50 kg bench, but that failed to reps and though this was just silly infront of everyone. Don't know why bench psyches me so much, could be technique as well. Need to get a video of me on friday.

Still did 115 kg deadlift as planned. 70 kg squat was hard as hell. Man I hate being a weakass guy, I swear this girl near looking stronger than me by far.

Good news is it seems like I'm losing weight in a healthy weight on 2k calorie/2,5k workout days. I need some of that beef phyre


Definitely get the video and take a look at your form- compare to dave tate's bench videos on youtube, as a powerlifting form is designed to move the most weight while still minimizing injury risk. After you have the form down, try benching more. Even if its just for a week or two, try benching every time you go to lift to let that form settle in and adapt to it. Mix up the sets/reps too. I've been stuck on my bench for months... just went through two weeks where I benched eight times, starting at 6x6 with a lighter weight progressing to 10x3 with a heavier one.

Worked wonders, broke my plateau just by being used to the bench, made great form improvements, and it was great for my confidence under the bar too, considering those sets of three were heavier than what I had been stuck on before.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 17 2011 19:51 GMT
#10113
@Phyre, you're a med student? I'm starting second year of nursing in September and will begin clinicals then, any advice for a newbie?

Today's workout felt awesome, I'm starting to learn the clean and jerk as well as the snatch with my body rather than the mind and it feels like I save so much energy without having to think about everything. Gotta squat much more though, got stuck in the hole for the first time after catching a clean =\
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 19:54:36
August 17 2011 19:52 GMT
#10114
On August 18 2011 01:57 phyre112 wrote:
Dad revealed to me he bought a cow 300 pounds of grass-fed beef starting this winter, for only 400 bucks. I suggest all of you saying Paleo is expensive look into similar things at local farms. Can't beat steak at 1.30/ pound!



haha AWESOME dude :D

did some awesome hang snatches, clean & jerks and front squats today! feeling pretty strong again RAWR!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 21:17:57
August 17 2011 20:17 GMT
#10115
On August 18 2011 04:51 MeShiet wrote:
@Phyre, you're a med student? I'm starting second year of nursing in September and will begin clinicals then, any advice for a newbie?

Today's workout felt awesome, I'm starting to learn the clean and jerk as well as the snatch with my body rather than the mind and it feels like I save so much energy without having to think about everything. Gotta squat much more though, got stuck in the hole for the first time after catching a clean =\


I'm a hopeful med student. Taking my mcats this year and all. Iirc, sJarl is a med student in addition to being a superhero viking strongman. Talk to him.

Heading into the gym right now. It will go well, I will squat a bigger number than last time. Or else.

Edit: two sets into 90kg. Haven't worked like this in a while on a single exercise, but it feels good that i'm -able- to work this hard.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 17 2011 20:49 GMT
#10116
look at these sick pictures of the chinese team in the 2009 worlds training hall
http://pendlayforum.com/showthread.php?t=3621
Crazy high pulls lol

also heres a cool discussion of the chinese training system
http://pendlayforum.com/showthread.php?t=3626
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
August 17 2011 21:39 GMT
#10117
On August 18 2011 01:11 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 21:17 Energies wrote:
I hate the disparity between squats and leg press.

120kg squat then walk over and leg press like 300kg >_<

I hate the disparity between the numbers of people that squat and the people that leg press


What about people who do both?

I like the ego boost that comes with filling the leg press machine with plates
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 17 2011 21:47 GMT
#10118
leg presses aren't bad, there are far worse machines...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
August 17 2011 22:30 GMT
#10119
@Phyre: Mad jelly at your cow! Also, I've only finished my first of six years of med school so iirc med school is 4 years in the states so basicly I'm still only a pre-med student.

Day 4 of Smolov was hard. It wasn't the shoulders that were problematic on day 3 but my lats. Currently eating everything I can find in the house.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-17 22:56:11
August 17 2011 22:54 GMT
#10120
Shallow, I enjoy both as well.

There was something wrong with my heart yesterday, maybe I took too much jack3d but my heart rate just wouldn't settle, it felt like my entire body was pulsing with my heart rate, I had just finished a set of 125kg squats but I was too afraid to go any heavier, it felt like doing squats immediately after going for a sprint, I was breathing heavily and sweating even while laying down.

I figured I'd jump onto the leg press to finish up, I just kept adding 20kg plates on each side and it just wasn't getting any harder, I think I got to like 8-10 plates on each side, got off frustrated and went home, took maybe an hour for my heart rate to settle back down.

By the way, I have never understood the elitism on this thread regarding exercise types, personally some of my favourite exercises are pull ups, Deadlifts and Squats, but I'd never tell anyone to "LOL squat or gtfo!" There is no reason at all to alienate people because for some reason or another they do not end up doing ss/sl. And it seems to be getting to the point where we're throwing our nose up at people would like to try something different with the attitude of "psh, fine do what you want" rather than actually give people advise on alternative methods of exercise. Efficiency aside.

My initial indoctrination into working out involved pushups, pullups and running and that helped me achieve my goals just fine and even to this day I don't always enjoy the stresses placed on my body after walking out on a max squat or dl session, I'd rather wake up do some hiit circuit training instead. I know guys who will do a light workout and then go to a group fitness class because they just find that stuff enjoyable, and you know what each to his own. Regardless of my own ups and downs in life I've always been an advocate of any kind of exercise for the purpose of well being.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
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