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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
July 19 2011 17:43 GMT
#8901
On July 19 2011 20:25 FFGenerations wrote:
water is so important imo, i seem to get my "intrusive thoughts"/"racing thoughts" whenever i havent dranken enough


I get the same thing, but with milk.
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Ohnoes92
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden76 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:17:43
July 19 2011 18:16 GMT
#8902
On July 20 2011 02:37 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:25 urasheep wrote:
I'm 15 years old.. 5'9.6" 15 years old. I'm 1 inch taller then my mom, 1 shorter then my dad. Can anyone tell me if I've stopped growing yet? I'm scurred I'm gona be short forever xD.


How should anyone know that? I believe there are doctors that can predict this pretty well, but I am not even sure about that. Maybe do some research in this direction if it bothers you that much. The height of your parents is nothing but a rough indicator.
But let me scare you a little more: I hit 5'11 when I was fourteen and didn't grow an inch afterwards.

I don't think anyone can tell when you have stopped growing. And I have friends that have grown over 10 cm (~4 inches) after the age of 15, outgrowing their parents by several inches. Just continue eating and lifting weights to give your body the best possible conditions.
Ohai!
urasheep
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
62 Posts
July 19 2011 18:31 GMT
#8903
On July 20 2011 03:16 Ohnoes92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:37 Malinor wrote:
On July 20 2011 02:25 urasheep wrote:
I'm 15 years old.. 5'9.6" 15 years old. I'm 1 inch taller then my mom, 1 shorter then my dad. Can anyone tell me if I've stopped growing yet? I'm scurred I'm gona be short forever xD.


How should anyone know that? I believe there are doctors that can predict this pretty well, but I am not even sure about that. Maybe do some research in this direction if it bothers you that much. The height of your parents is nothing but a rough indicator.
But let me scare you a little more: I hit 5'11 when I was fourteen and didn't grow an inch afterwards.

I don't think anyone can tell when you have stopped growing. And I have friends that have grown over 10 cm (~4 inches) after the age of 15, outgrowing their parents by several inches. Just continue eating and lifting weights to give your body the best possible conditions.

Wow, if I'm 186 cm I would be really happy lol .

182 cm is my goal height haha
Swagger tighter than a yeast infection, Fly, go hard than geese erection
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
July 19 2011 19:50 GMT
#8904
Boo fucking hoo, 175 and perfectly happy with that. Should that change some day I'll just move to Korea where I am a giant. What pisses me off though are the 190+ guys who snatch the short girls. Such a waste of shortness!

Finished first goal today: 1.5BW squat @ 105kg

bench 67.5
deadlift 115
press 42.5
pclean 42.5

Which bring me to my hate subject: For 6 weeks now I am failing 42.5 on the press. Virtually 0 progress. I started power cleans just last week and already easily overtook the press (don't know if that is expected though). But my press is so ridiculously fail.

And a question: I found that when I rack the bar in the top slot at the bench, I just barely get it out in my work sets. And that makes me lose form every time. So today I racked it one slot below, started from there, and racket it back into the top slot (for safety reasons). The 67.5kg were WAY easier that way than the 65kg last week with skewed form.

Is that a bad idea? If so any other suggestion how I can use the top slot without losing tension and form?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 19 2011 19:57 GMT
#8905
On July 20 2011 04:50 zatic wrote:
Boo fucking hoo, 175 and perfectly happy with that. Should that change some day I'll just move to Korea where I am a giant. What pisses me off though are the 190+ guys who snatch the short girls. Such a waste of shortness!

Finished first goal today: 1.5BW squat @ 105kg

bench 67.5
deadlift 115
press 42.5
pclean 42.5

Which bring me to my hate subject: For 6 weeks now I am failing 42.5 on the press. Virtually 0 progress. I started power cleans just last week and already easily overtook the press (don't know if that is expected though). But my press is so ridiculously fail.

And a question: I found that when I rack the bar in the top slot at the bench, I just barely get it out in my work sets. And that makes me lose form every time. So today I racked it one slot below, started from there, and racket it back into the top slot (for safety reasons). The 67.5kg were WAY easier that way than the 65kg last week with skewed form.

Is that a bad idea? If so any other suggestion how I can use the top slot without losing tension and form?


Press is a bitch, almost everyone I know struggled with it. I was stuck at 115 lb for the longest time, then suddenly, I move past it and made almost linear progress all the way up to 140. I recommend resetting and eating more food. Your performance actually increases quite a bit once you start eating more, but it takes a few days to kick in.

Your bar should be racked at a height that's parallel to your starting position, such that all you need to do is bringing it forward without raising it or lowering it. I'm guessing your rack has three fixed slots and not adjustable?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
July 19 2011 19:58 GMT
#8906
i am about 20cm taller than my father, so is my brother

zatic...i am taking all your women away!!!! :=)

(200+ reporting)
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 19 2011 20:35 GMT
#8907
On July 20 2011 00:11 BouBou.865 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 22:52 FFGenerations wrote:
well done dude, did you post a vid of your squat yet? my big beginners mistake was not realising i wasnt going down very low when i was squatting

The gym owner is an ex powerlifter and has no problems squatting with like 280kg or something rediculous like that. He barks at me whenever my form slips, so I am almost 100% sure that my form is nicely below paralel. I have a little tendency to go down to fast, because it makes going lower easier, but I'm working on that.
Also, tomorrow is my birthday. Prepare for awesomeness.


Going down quickly in the squat isn't a problem if you do it without losing tightness. If you're losing the arch in your back, the puff in your chest, or the stretch in your hamstrings THEN it's a problem, but otherwise, it's just a guy with a bigass weight pushing him into the ground. Good that you have someone to check your form in real time though, Videos and this thread are great, but they aren't there all the time.

On July 20 2011 01:00 DavidMcF wrote:
You can go to the gym on consecutive days if you like -

I go 5x a week mon - fri . If your routine is set up so that you aren't doing the same shit over and over

mine goes something like this

chest
back
shoulders/tris
abs/bis
legs

so I'm never hitting the same things consecutive which is fine ! Doing squats/deadlifts/frontsquats right after one another does sound like death to me though hahaha I couldn't handle that if I was going all out on every workout. (which you should be )


Most of us are on full body routines here every day that we lift, but pretty sure only Dimsum is crazy enough to oly lift and max squat every day of the week. He's a very experienced lifter though.

Funkie, you should probably be good to go two days in a row if you accept that you'll be a little tired, and that it won't be the greatest second workout you've ever had. Also if you can avoid squatting two days in a row, I would (do deadlifts and front squats, or something) just because of the risk of a form slip and then injury in the lower back or the knees.


On July 20 2011 02:37 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:25 urasheep wrote:
I'm 15 years old.. 5'9.6" 15 years old. I'm 1 inch taller then my mom, 1 shorter then my dad. Can anyone tell me if I've stopped growing yet? I'm scurred I'm gona be short forever xD.


How should anyone know that? I believe there are doctors that can predict this pretty well, but I am not even sure about that. Maybe do some research in this direction if it bothers you that much. The height of your parents is nothing but a rough indicator.
But let me scare you a little more: I hit 5'11 when I was fourteen and didn't grow an inch afterwards.


I'm 20 years old, 6'3" (193 cm). I "stopped" growing when I was 17, but every male on both sides of my family has grown again from 21-22 years old. It's really a mystery how tall you're going to end up. You can roughly estimate, based on your parents and the rest of your family, but in the end it doesn't mean much. I have a twin sister who's only 5'8 (172 cm) and I have a little sister who's the same height as I am. Shit's crazy, but here's a hint:

It doesn't actually matter how tall you end up, unless you let it get to you. Literally, NO ONE except you will care about it in the end, unless you end up awkwardly tall and lanky (which is why I go to the gym), or you end up short and have a little man's complex. Or if you're a girl. Then it matters too.


On July 20 2011 04:50 zatic wrote:
Boo fucking hoo, 175 and perfectly happy with that. Should that change some day I'll just move to Korea where I am a giant. What pisses me off though are the 190+ guys who snatch the short girls. Such a waste of shortness!


Dem short girls so Cute though. Never been attracted to a girl taller than my shoulder. When she's gotta stand on her toes, and you still have to lean down to let her kiss you, shit is cash.

On July 20 2011 04:50 zatic wrote:
Finished first goal today: 1.5BW squat @ 105kg

bench 67.5
deadlift 115
press 42.5
pclean 42.5

Which bring me to my hate subject: For 6 weeks now I am failing 42.5 on the press. Virtually 0 progress. I started power cleans just last week and already easily overtook the press (don't know if that is expected though). But my press is so ridiculously fail.


It's expected that the PC will overtake the press. The muscles involved are just significantly larger, like the relationship between press and bench, or squat and dead. PC shouldn't ever overtake your squat though AFAIK.

On July 20 2011 04:50 zatic wrote:And a question: I found that when I rack the bar in the top slot at the bench, I just barely get it out in my work sets. And that makes me lose form every time. So today I racked it one slot below, started from there, and racket it back into the top slot (for safety reasons). The 67.5kg were WAY easier that way than the 65kg last week with skewed form.

Is that a bad idea? If so any other suggestion how I can use the top slot without losing tension and form?


If you need to do it to keep tight form across your back and shoulders, by all means go ahead. If you can get it out without causing yourself any harm, I don't see a problem with it. If you run into a bench that only has one height (ex. the ones in my gym) just get a spotter to help you lift it out. That way you can keep your shoulders tucked, chest out and up, body tight, and bench properly.
Never.Die
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan189 Posts
July 19 2011 20:50 GMT
#8908
Has anyone have of a product called Ultradrol?
Steeped
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada87 Posts
July 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#8909
So i went to the gym yesterday with my friend (remedysc) and heres what i lifted.
Squat: 150lbs
bench: 55lbs, still working on recovering my shoulder so this is all i can do for now with high reps.
Deadlift: 215lbs.. i was really happy with this it was easy and now on friday i'll be doing 225lbs! 1.5x my body weight.
And for tomorrow its powerclean time but im still having trouble getting the rack position down.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 19 2011 22:03 GMT
#8910
ya zatic, watch some vids (so you think you can bench on youtube iirc) and you're supposed to just pull the bar straight out horizontally straight into position. i have similar bench to you and muccch smaller press and am starting to struggle getting the bar out
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 22:06:41
July 19 2011 22:06 GMT
#8911
oh yeah, epic motivational post here (scroll down)
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=245376
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
unDef
Profile Joined June 2010
United States85 Posts
July 19 2011 22:14 GMT
#8912
I'm one month into the Insanity program and I am loving my results. I was already in good shape but this program is awesome.
Excuse me wat
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 22:23:08
July 19 2011 22:21 GMT
#8913
Squat: 175kg 5-5-5-5-5
Press: 73,5kg 5-5-5-5-5
Deadlift: 192,5kg x 5 PR

That was a rough workout, nearly every set was a grind until the end and I was extremely tired. But I got every rep in, so I am happy that I pulled through.
Right now I am either a) not eating enough or b) not resting enough. Well, I know it is both right now, but everything is just too much fun right now . Anyway, tomorrow a little bit of HIIT (lol, I can already sense the pain), Thursday is lifting and on Friday I can take a day off. So I will just increase my calorie intake a bit for the next 3 days. Starting right now with a nice steak after midnight.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
July 19 2011 22:24 GMT
#8914
Good shape=/= strong, though. Also that post by ILOVEKITTENS is amazing, highest of recommendations.

Few nap related questions to eschlow/anybody else:

-Is Napping a useful habit to acquire?
-If yes, what sites/books do you recommend to learn about napping?
-Any stuff you recommend on sleep in general?

That's it, got a date planned for my birthday, will write a big fat battle report.
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 19 2011 23:03 GMT
#8915
Thx for all the comments guy. Gonna hit the gym today!
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 23:42:07
July 19 2011 23:39 GMT
#8916
tomorrow:
squat 65kg (might puke)
bench 67.5kg dooo itttttt!!!!!!!!!!
dead 100kg (or higher if it goes okay)
curls , will try 17kg for the first time. i picked up my 15kg dumbell the other day and mysteriously raped out 10 reps with my left arm, no idea how that happened lol.

i know im not supposed to bench this often but fuck it i wanna reach my target!!! once i hit 70kg ill slow down with bench for a bit, and add side shoulder raises to start bringing my shoulders back again. will still leave it at least another 2 weeks before attempting any sort of OHP (injury)

just had 700g of beef w peas and sauce and a shake, almost passed out afterwards lol
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
July 19 2011 23:44 GMT
#8917
On July 20 2011 07:24 BouBou.865 wrote:
Good shape=/= strong, though. Also that post by ILOVEKITTENS is amazing, highest of recommendations.

Few nap related questions to eschlow/anybody else:

-Is Napping a useful habit to acquire?
-If yes, what sites/books do you recommend to learn about napping?
-Any stuff you recommend on sleep in general?

That's it, got a date planned for my birthday, will write a big fat battle report.


Meh i am a frequent nap taker. usually cause i stay up too late and wake up too early. I just keep them less than 45 minutes unless i'm running on a couple hours of sleep (which happens far too often T_T)

On July 20 2011 07:21 Malinor wrote:
Squat: 175kg 5-5-5-5-5
Press: 73,5kg 5-5-5-5-5
Deadlift: 192,5kg x 5 PR

That was a rough workout, nearly every set was a grind until the end and I was extremely tired. But I got every rep in, so I am happy that I pulled through.
Right now I am either a) not eating enough or b) not resting enough. Well, I know it is both right now, but everything is just too much fun right now . Anyway, tomorrow a little bit of HIIT (lol, I can already sense the pain), Thursday is lifting and on Friday I can take a day off. So I will just increase my calorie intake a bit for the next 3 days. Starting right now with a nice steak after midnight.

Holy shit T_T You are a testament to linear progression.

On July 20 2011 01:44 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:00 DavidMcF wrote:
You can go to the gym on consecutive days if you like -

I go 5x a week mon - fri . If your routine is set up so that you aren't doing the same shit over and over

mine goes something like this

chest
back
shoulders/tris
abs/bis
legs

so I'm never hitting the same things consecutive which is fine ! Doing squats/deadlifts/frontsquats right after one another does sound like death to me though hahaha I couldn't handle that if I was going all out on every workout. (which you should be )



There is nothing wrong with working body parts on consecutive days. I will increase my workouts, but for the past year I do some form of squat, pull and overhead work every workout 5 days a week. I will now start either max back squat or front squat every workout.



@avocado, squats looking good! The dark background isnt helping though haha.


What's you're weekly workout going to look like these days?
I think bud is giving his daughter a weight set to take to school and put in one of the shitty dorm gyms which should be easier for me to get to so i might take up lifting 4-5 days a week once i get back to school and have the time to.

On July 20 2011 00:41 funkie wrote:
Couldn't hit the gym yesterday due to work issues.

Going today, and maybe tomorrow? and rest on thursday? is this ok? I don't want to go to the gym on saturday, it's fucking cold on the gym and well, it's unpleasant. I might go, but I don't want to do heavy .

I'll do Squats, Press and Deadlift (trying to aim for a 145kg / 150kg x 1 today, woho!) and keep my squat on the 100++ (friday was 110kg, ass to grass, breaking parallel and breaking shit here and there ;D). Press hasn't moved in years, I'm stuck in 62-65kg. Maybe time to deload? what you guys think?.

Tomorrow, I'd be doing Front Squats, Bench press and Chinups. My Front Squat has skyrocketed since I started doing them in good form, and in some way I think it has helped a lot my Back Squat. I can lift 110kg without even feeling it's hard. it's heavy, but not hard, not for me anyways!. Progress ?

So yeah, what do you guys think about doing tuesday, wednesday, rest day (thursday) and then hit it again on friday, while doing some stretch work on saturday?.

(pd. birthday coming in exactly a week! hyped! :D 22 here i go! :D)


I swear to god if i ever hear you say its too cold to go to the gym i will fly to south america and beat you.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
July 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#8918
On July 20 2011 08:44 decafchicken wrote:I swear to god if i ever hear you say its too cold to go to the gym i will fly to south america and beat you.


Haha maybe if he were down in the bottom of argentina/uruguay that could be a semi-valid excuse... but venezuela never gets cold

I remember being in buenos aires a while back and wondering why people had like hardcore winter jackets on when it was ~60F
GumThief
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada284 Posts
July 20 2011 00:35 GMT
#8919
On July 20 2011 07:14 unDef wrote:
I'm one month into the Insanity program and I am loving my results. I was already in good shape but this program is awesome.



I can vouch for that. My girl has gone through p90x insanity and asilyum and the results for her were amazing. She's now on some p90x insanity hybrid.
It's not my cup of tea but def a quality program for people. Keep it up
:))
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 00:52:04
July 20 2011 00:51 GMT
#8920
On July 20 2011 09:35 GumThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 07:14 unDef wrote:
I'm one month into the Insanity program and I am loving my results. I was already in good shape but this program is awesome.



I can vouch for that. My girl has gone through p90x insanity and asilyum and the results for her were amazing. She's now on some p90x insanity hybrid.
It's not my cup of tea but def a quality program for people. Keep it up


While they're not the best programs someone could be on, they're definitely not the worst, and anything that gets people moving and motivated is worth it in my book. Wish I could get my sister to do Insanity; her old room mate had great results, and my sister is always complaining about how she doesn't fit her clothes from high school anymore (neither do I, but that's a good thing =p).

1) she saw a friend have success on the program
2) she asked me, who by now knows a little bit about fitness and I recommended it to her
3) I downloaded the entire collection of workouts, and burned it onto DVD's for her, since she did not want to pay.
4) my parents bought her a 42" TV to put in her room, and watch the DVD's on
5) she never started the program.

fuuuuuuuu.


On July 20 2011 09:15 vicariouscheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 08:44 decafchicken wrote:I swear to god if i ever hear you say its too cold to go to the gym i will fly to south america and beat you.


Haha maybe if he were down in the bottom of argentina/uruguay that could be a semi-valid excuse... but venezuela never gets cold

I remember being in buenos aires a while back and wondering why people had like hardcore winter jackets on when it was ~60F


It gets lower than 60 F here at night in the MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER. Funkie, come visit me (or decaf) a day in December, you'll never feel cold at home again.
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