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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 09 2011 09:45 GMT
#5041
from the article that sawedust posted earlier:

But Shaul gave me a great gift that day, cluing me in to a little secret: True sport-specific training, for literally everybody except elite athletes, isn’t sport-specific at all. It’s about getting strong, durable, and relentless in simple, old-school ways that a man can train, test, and measure.


amen to that! good (albeit a bit long) read

http://www.mensjournal.com/everything-you-know-about-fitness-is-a-lie
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 10:36:35
May 09 2011 09:56 GMT
#5042
So basically I had my first session now and I took my measurements.

67kg (147lbs) on 180cm (5'11") on 05/09/2011

I am gonna do the Practical Programmin Novice Programm which looks liek this:

Monday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps
Wednesday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
1x5 Deadlift

Friday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

My first day was:

3x5 Squat 50lbs
3x5 Bench Press 90lbs
1x7/1x6/1x5 Chin-Ups

I am feeling pretty well after my first session and actually thought that the squats weren't too hard, but when I started getting up some stairs I realised that it was pretty Ok tho

I am gonna add 10lbs for starters every training and I guess after like 2 weeks go down to adding 5lbs.

I am really looking forward to this now and I am so pumped :D

Thanks for all the support from you guys!

Edit: I should maybe add my weight goals, which would 75kg until 07/15/2011. I think this should be doable if I eat enough. I don't have any goals regarding lift weights yet, since I just sarted and I don't care about "toning" or anythign liek that. I just want some bulking done and get some strength for now
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 09 2011 10:22 GMT
#5043
On May 09 2011 18:56 MarCoon wrote:
So basically I had my first session now and I took my measurements.

67kg (147lbs) on 180cm (5'11")

I am gonna do the Practical Programmin Novice Programm which looks liek this:

Monday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench press / Press (Alternating)
Chin-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps
Wednesday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Press / Bench Press (Alternating)
1x5 Deadlift

Friday
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press / Press (Alternating)
Pull-ups: 3 sets to failure or add weight if completing more than 15 reps

My first day was:

3x5 Squat 50lbs
3x5 Bench Press 90lbs
1x7/1x6/1x5 Chin-Ups

I am feeling pretty well after my first session and actually thought that the squats weren't too hard, but when I started getting up some stairs I realised that it was pretty Ok tho

I am gonna add 10lbs for starters every training and I guess after like 2 weeks go down to adding 5lbs.

I am really looking forward to this now and I am so pumped :D

Thanks for all the support from you guys!


welcome aboard! gl with your training
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 10:24:27
May 09 2011 10:24 GMT
#5044
be careful about adding to your bench press without a spotter; i think its 5lbs to bench press. 10lbs you might drop it on your head suddenly
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MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
May 09 2011 10:28 GMT
#5045
@FFGenerations Well the 90lbs were pretty easy actually, but ofcourse if I have to I'll drop down to 5lbs for bench press earlier
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Mithrandir
Profile Joined March 2011
United States99 Posts
May 09 2011 11:26 GMT
#5046
On May 09 2011 17:39 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 12:53 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I'm not sure what I wanna do for exercise yet, and what my goals are, but the most important thing is to start doing something, anything, immediately, rather than sit around making plans. And last time I wrote something down here, I owned it. So I'll do the same initial goal as last time. Run 50 miles/week. Not many runners around here. All you lifters and bulkers :o!


giving up running is the best thing I ever did. all my life i have despised cario and forced myself to do it until a few months ago.
I realized any weight loss you want to incur from running is better achieved by diet. I'd rather go for a 1.5hour walk on a diet than run for 30-45minutes anyway to supplement weight loss.
I also realized that my VO^2max is quite decent from lifting heavy shit. my workouts aren't intense, I take long breaks, but lifting close to your max and going all out leaves your breathless, especially on deadlift/squats.


Strength Training doesn't increase VO2

Although I like weightlifting, and I agree if you don't like cardio you shouldn't force yourself to do it, there are obviously benefits to cardio and it sounds like Tyler likes it.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
May 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#5047
On May 09 2011 19:28 MarCoon wrote:
@FFGenerations Well the 90lbs were pretty easy actually, but ofcourse if I have to I'll drop down to 5lbs for bench press earlier


Increasing too quickly is bad. The SS program is all about loading your body up to lifting heavy shit OVER TIME. You don't want to stall out in the first month, you want to stall out after four. Stick to 5 lb increases on the bench, and 10 on the squat and 15 on the dead. Lower those even more when you first stall out. (2.5/5/5) It will take longer to get to the heavy shit, sure, but you'll continue increasing past where you otherwise would have stalled.
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
May 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#5048
Any good remedies for patella tendonitis Eshlow? This crap has been bothering me for some weeks now. I've RICE'd it everytime I feel something in my knee (1 full month now), but now I need to take a break, as it's only getting worse.
See a specialist as well perhaps?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
May 09 2011 13:00 GMT
#5049
On May 09 2011 18:56 MarCoon wrote:
So basically I had my first session now and I took my measurements.

I am really looking forward to this now and I am so pumped :D

Thanks for all the support from you guys!

Edit: I should maybe add my weight goals, which would 75kg until 07/15/2011. I think this should be doable if I eat enough. I don't have any goals regarding lift weights yet, since I just sarted and I don't care about "toning" or anythign liek that. I just want some bulking done and get some strength for now

What gym do you go to?
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
May 09 2011 14:36 GMT
#5050
On May 09 2011 17:39 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 12:53 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I'm not sure what I wanna do for exercise yet, and what my goals are, but the most important thing is to start doing something, anything, immediately, rather than sit around making plans. And last time I wrote something down here, I owned it. So I'll do the same initial goal as last time. Run 50 miles/week. Not many runners around here. All you lifters and bulkers :o!


giving up running is the best thing I ever did. all my life i have despised cario and forced myself to do it until a few months ago.
I realized any weight loss you want to incur from running is better achieved by diet. I'd rather go for a 1.5hour walk on a diet than run for 30-45minutes anyway to supplement weight loss.
I also realized that my VO^2max is quite decent from lifting heavy shit. my workouts aren't intense, I take long breaks, but lifting close to your max and going all out leaves your breathless, especially on deadlift/squats.

having been a competitive runner in college I think he's gonna stick with it lol.
speaking of which, Tyler do youknow what your times look like these days?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
May 09 2011 14:48 GMT
#5051
So i woke up this morning with a decent amount of soreness/inflexibility in the left side of my neck. Its taking me some time to get it stretched out so that it doesnt hurt when im moving it. Any idea what this could be from, or how to fix it?
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 09 2011 15:31 GMT
#5052
vampires!
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 09 2011 15:39 GMT
#5053
On May 09 2011 21:09 Nazarene wrote:
Any good remedies for patella tendonitis Eshlow? This crap has been bothering me for some weeks now. I've RICE'd it everytime I feel something in my knee (1 full month now), but now I need to take a break, as it's only getting worse.
See a specialist as well perhaps?


http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/

Mobility, eccentrics, heat if ice isn't helping, light stretching

If it's patellar it should be on the patellar tendon.

If it's deeper then it's not patellar and you may want to see a doc
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#5054
On May 09 2011 23:48 Alventenie wrote:
So i woke up this morning with a decent amount of soreness/inflexibility in the left side of my neck. Its taking me some time to get it stretched out so that it doesnt hurt when im moving it. Any idea what this could be from, or how to fix it?


Crink in the neck is decently common from sleeping. If it doesn't resolve within a day or two I'd see a chiro or PT who can put it back in place.

Otherwise, use heat and do light stretching, and mobility.

Usually a subluxed or slipped/stuck facet joint
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
May 09 2011 15:41 GMT
#5055
On May 09 2011 23:48 Alventenie wrote:
So i woke up this morning with a decent amount of soreness/inflexibility in the left side of my neck. Its taking me some time to get it stretched out so that it doesnt hurt when im moving it. Any idea what this could be from, or how to fix it?


Did you bench yesterday? and perhaps rest your head on the bench while doing reps?
tkRage
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
225 Posts
May 09 2011 19:31 GMT
#5056
Hey guys, new poster in this thread.

I have a few vague goals in mind and that is to lose weight and have a better diet. I'll make these more specific in a minute.

Right now my current situation is that I'm a full time student and I teach as well as playing in symphonies so I keep myself busy with work school and travel. This affects my diet in that I eat a lot of fast food, I rarely ever prepare anything outside of ramen or some quick pasta in my home. I went on a steaming kick a few weeks ago where I was steaming vegetables and fish but that lasted all of like 5 days before I just couldn't have enough to eat, and I was always hungry. I tried throwing in rice but it was so tasteless in the mix that I couldn't bring myself to eat it.

A major problem I have is that I eat too much every time I eat; I eat past the point of being satisfied and always end up feeling overfull. And I just know the portions I'm eating are way larger than they should be.

My current body type is at least slightly overweight but not terribly bad. I'm 6'0" and weigh about 220lbs without a muscle mass to my name, so a high body fat percentage. I have a gut which is the number one thing I want to get rid of, so I can just have a more uniform body style and fit into a normal medium sized shirt.

So what I really need help with is finding a way to fit a healthier diet into a really busy lifestyle, something that doesn't take much TIME to prepare, in enough variety to keep my unfortunately low will power personality entertained to keep it going. Also exercise ideas to go along with this would be wonderful.

Thanks for any feedback, I look forward to getting myself healthy this summer.
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
May 09 2011 19:33 GMT
#5057
These last two weeks i have been working on my clean form, but I am still having trouble engaging my hips. Are there any exercises that I can do to help with this besides just watching film between sets and conscientiously trying to thrust my hips forward?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 09 2011 19:34 GMT
#5058
On May 10 2011 04:33 xJupiter9x wrote:
These last two weeks i have been working on my clean form, but I am still having trouble engaging my hips. Are there any exercises that I can do to help with this besides just watching film between sets and conscientiously trying to thrust my hips forward?


work cleans from high hang. This will force you to throw your hips faster and get under the bar.
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xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
May 09 2011 19:46 GMT
#5059
On May 10 2011 04:34 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 04:33 xJupiter9x wrote:
These last two weeks i have been working on my clean form, but I am still having trouble engaging my hips. Are there any exercises that I can do to help with this besides just watching film between sets and conscientiously trying to thrust my hips forward?


work cleans from high hang. This will force you to throw your hips faster and get under the bar.

Sounds good. Will do. Thank you sir
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#5060
Went to my old gym (a standard commercial gym) today with some friends.

I never knew how good my new one is until today. Pick your gyms wisely, it will greatly affect your lifting.
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