On September 01 2015 11:02 Ketara wrote:
That's really weird.

Why would they want to go to the airport to harass you for money.

Seems like if they wanted to harass you for money they'd want to go out to lunch or something.

At that point I'd leave them at the airport and tell them to find their way home.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

September 01 2015 03:44 GMT

#9365

Right?

Putting yourself in a position where you're indebted to somebody and using that as an opportunity to ask them for money.

Great strategy.

Quality relatives IMO.

Cixah

United States11285 Posts

September 01 2015 03:46 GMT

#9366

Maybe I'm being selfish or what have you but I just don't feel right giving him money in the first place. He doesn't exactly have the track record I'd be willing to lend to and he hasn't shown any signs of improvent. Yesterday was eye opening, I haven't seen my family in over 8 months, but in that short time it feels like I'm the only one with their shit together. Now that theyve seen that it feels like they're trying to pinch me more and more with the guilt, when in actuality I have nothing to feel guilty for.

I don't know how to feel right now, it feels more like sympathy for their stupidity and laziness, but I think they expected anger. I'm going to try and sleep again. Instead of just pondering all night.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

September 01 2015 03:52 GMT

#9367

I get in this situation with my brother at times. It's understandable.

At the end of the day I think what you have to do is assume that if you give them money you'll never get it back, and then try to assess what sort of social / familial problems you'll have if you don't give it to them. And then decide if the loss of the money is worth avoiding those problems.

Most important thing I think is once you make your decision, let that be the end of it and don't guilt yourself in either direction.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 01 2015 04:08 GMT

#9368

It also depends what kind of "family" we're talking here. Obv given the circumstances it's probably not parents (if it was, I wouldn't consider it unreasonable for my parents to ask me for money, even though the way it was done here is still the stupidest way imaginable), but actual relationship would definitely impact what I feel my level of obligation is, if any.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

September 01 2015 04:15 GMT

#9369

There are definitely times when you can have a moral obligation to give a family member money.

But that's very dependant on the individual situation. You've got to make that determination yourself and do your best to not second guess your decision.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

September 01 2015 05:03 GMT

#9370

On September 01 2015 11:32 Scip wrote:

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getting rid of family relationship harder and in a way more costly than other ones qq
sucks when someone in your family is a dick

We simply disowned my aunt (mother's sister).
Haven't talked to her since I was 21 (I'm 25 now) through a text due to me having had already deleted her number and not realizing it was her. Best decision ever. And easy to do too.
Granted, even my mom didn't talk to her. The last time they talked was when my mom was on her deathbed on the phone and only THEN were they even going to possibly make up.
Ton of fucked up shit when it comes to that including literally stealing all of my mother's inheritance from my grandfather and squandering it on cigs, alcohol, and vacations, and then spending like $5 on my sis and me and about $300+ (back in the 90's) on her drunk husband's nephews for birthdays. Followed by bragging about how much she spent on them.

Then having the gall to call my dad "rich" because he worked 70+ hours/week since he was in his early 20's and saved money all his life for my sis and my education + retirement instead of doing said things like smoke cigs, drink, and go on vacations.

TheHumanSensation

Canada1210 Posts

September 01 2015 08:23 GMT

#9371

k seriously though the iron juggernaut (+ coldlight / jeeves combo) is winning me lots of games vs these filthy deck-thinning secrets paladin scum. It's pretty funny and incredibly satisfying to win as they draw the mine when they have lethal on board. It's easy to go face vs them early and just ignore their secrets aside from the defender/avenge combo, and if you can get them in the danger zone by the time the secret horse pops up it's an easy win.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

September 01 2015 08:55 GMT

#9372

I don't really talk with my family... but it's more because we don't necessarily share much, and my uncles don't really talk with my mother either (I don't think they disliked each other, but the brothers kept between themselves and my mother grew resentful when one rarely bothered contacting us and actively avoided visiting their parents when the mother went into depression and the father had to stay alone for the first time in years after she was hospitalised). Sometimes I miss it, not having memories other people talk about, nor feeling close to my parents. Sometimes it feels like I don't really know my father.
But on the other hand, my relationships with them aren't poisonous, and if I actually wanted to go see them and have a talk, I guess it... would be possible? If weird on their end too, I assume.

On September 01 2015 12:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
And I just lost to Ysera/Cenarius at 5 wins.
Unbelievable.
At least I got a GVG pack?

Dunno, you got to 5 wins. I quit Arena because I lost to that before even reaching 3 several times in a row.

Go train your megaman skills!

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 01 2015 10:09 GMT

#9373

On September 01 2015 13:08 TheYango wrote:
It also depends what kind of "family" we're talking here. Obv given the circumstances it's probably not parents (if it was, I wouldn't consider it unreasonable for my parents to ask me for money, even though the way it was done here is still the stupidest way imaginable), but actual relationship would definitely impact what I feel my level of obligation is, if any.

Maybe I'm weird but I don't really care if you share the same blood as me. If you don't act like my family then you're aren't my family. A very close friend is more family than you. Thankfully my immediate family isn't like that so I don't have many issues. I don't understand why people tolerate asshole behavior just because it's from a family member.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

September 01 2015 10:15 GMT

#9374

It's different when you're Asian.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

September 01 2015 10:19 GMT

#9375

I think we already went over how Cixah isn't Asian.

Duvon

Sweden2360 Posts

September 01 2015 12:01 GMT

#9376

While I agree blood is meh, my family are still the ones I spent the 20ish first years of my life with, and liked.
I'm sad for everyone who doesn't have an awesome family

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 01 2015 12:22 GMT

#9377

Yea I love my family but they love me and aren't assholes so I'm pretty lucky. Parents always treated my brother and I well. We'd discuss things like peers and in turn we'd respect their decisions because we knew where they were coming from. Hopefully I treat my children as well

Also super supportive which is kind of frustrating at times. Like when I failed life pretty hard they weren't mad which makes it all the more heartbreaking to me that I failed them

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

September 01 2015 13:14 GMT

#9378

wouldn't it be "me and my brother" rather than "my brother and I"? "Parents always treated I well" isn't the correct grammar right?

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 01 2015 13:15 GMT

#9379

You are correct. I'm African so forgive me. It would be correct if I said "My brother and I were always treated.."

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

September 01 2015 13:18 GMT

#9380

LOL np it's just funny to me because this is like the only time in english when you ever have to be careful about different forms of a word when in a lot of other languages you have to always do that for every word.