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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 01 2015 00:47 GMT
#9341
On September 01 2015 09:44 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:10 Ketara wrote:
Okay I tried watching that it's way too dry and confusing for me.


You asked for an explanation of economics. Is this surprising to you?

Things I learned today: if you are playing Sword Coast Legends and the DM decides to be a douchenard, it works exactly like in real life.

Are you gonna be a douchenard to us tomorrow?

I freely admit I just wanted to use that word


Nah man, if I was going to do that I'd just have sic'd more Librarians on you.

If anything, I want to be a better DM just to prove that you don't have to be a giant dick.

Edit: Also, douchenard is pretty great.


I think a lot of DMs are people who are really good at world building, making dungeons, having extensive systems knowledge, etc., but are also people who aren't very good at creating / designing / running games that are fun for players.

I think the best tough situations (obviously every player (/group) is different) are when you have a bunch of inexperienced players and you just let them do whatever they want to, and then introduce something that they're not used to because they don't play these types of games much. For example, giving them time in a city to make whatever preparations they want, then they go out into a blizzard and you ask "So who has a map?", and then after an encounter in the snow say "Your tracks have been covered up by snow, which way were you going?". I like these kinds of tough-luck -> solvable-open-ended-puzzle scenarios a lot more than "these things will kill you roll well gl hf".


I mean, I could definitely get into a long discussion about what I think makes a good DM, both in terms of who I like to play with (though admittedly I don't get a chance to play that often) and just what I think makes a good DM in terms of what I try to shoot for when I do it and what things I could still do better.

But that dude literally threw his hands up and yelled "yes!" when we all died.

Fuck that guy.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 00:53:23
September 01 2015 00:52 GMT
#9342
On September 01 2015 09:47 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:44 TheHumanSensation wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 01 2015 09:10 Ketara wrote:
Okay I tried watching that it's way too dry and confusing for me.


You asked for an explanation of economics. Is this surprising to you?

Things I learned today: if you are playing Sword Coast Legends and the DM decides to be a douchenard, it works exactly like in real life.

Are you gonna be a douchenard to us tomorrow?

I freely admit I just wanted to use that word


Nah man, if I was going to do that I'd just have sic'd more Librarians on you.

If anything, I want to be a better DM just to prove that you don't have to be a giant dick.

Edit: Also, douchenard is pretty great.


I think a lot of DMs are people who are really good at world building, making dungeons, having extensive systems knowledge, etc., but are also people who aren't very good at creating / designing / running games that are fun for players.

I think the best tough situations (obviously every player (/group) is different) are when you have a bunch of inexperienced players and you just let them do whatever they want to, and then introduce something that they're not used to because they don't play these types of games much. For example, giving them time in a city to make whatever preparations they want, then they go out into a blizzard and you ask "So who has a map?", and then after an encounter in the snow say "Your tracks have been covered up by snow, which way were you going?". I like these kinds of tough-luck -> solvable-open-ended-puzzle scenarios a lot more than "these things will kill you roll well gl hf".


I mean, I could definitely get into a long discussion about what I think makes a good DM, both in terms of who I like to play with (though admittedly I don't get a chance to play that often) and just what I think makes a good DM in terms of what I try to shoot for when I do it and what things I could still do better.

But that dude literally threw his hands up and yelled "yes!" when we all died.

Fuck that guy.


DM (following rigid rules of balance) vs players is like the worst possible conceptualization of how to DM.

imo of course. Although I understand that some people crave that specific experience.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2015 00:54 GMT
#9343
So analogy to real life implication means the DM is fired, right? So does that make the players the board of directors or something, and the DM the appointed CEO to entertain everyone (with fun or moneys)?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 01:02:14
September 01 2015 01:00 GMT
#9344
Xi jinpings corruption reforms can in scale and breadth be seen to surpas what can be seen as political moves for personal power. From western perspective the economy (primarily in the large companies) the massive control of the government is seen as negative while this isn't as clear cut especially when you leave the sandboxes of economists. This is still the central argument that is brought up as the weakness of China.

Ill watch the second video in full once I am bored out of my mind again.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 01 2015 01:05 GMT
#9345
Am I totally playing the game wrong or is FFT a fairly difficult game? While I could easily breeze through the initial levels of FFTA/A2 I struggled fairly heavily in the first chapter of FFT.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 01 2015 01:08 GMT
#9346
On September 01 2015 10:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Am I totally playing the game wrong or is FFT a fairly difficult game? While I could easily breeze through the initial levels of FFTA/A2 I struggled fairly heavily in the first chapter of FFT.


Absolutely. It can definitely be fairly demanding.

Just wait for some of the later fights. They can be brutal, some of which (admittedly) is RNG. However, if you're thinking about the tactics you can get real results (grinding also helps).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 01:11:32
September 01 2015 01:10 GMT
#9347
On September 01 2015 10:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 10:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Am I totally playing the game wrong or is FFT a fairly difficult game? While I could easily breeze through the initial levels of FFTA/A2 I struggled fairly heavily in the first chapter of FFT.


Absolutely. It can definitely be fairly demanding.

Just wait for some of the later fights. They can be brutal, some of which (admittedly) is RNG. However, if you're thinking about the tactics you can get real results (grinding also helps).


I am definitely going to grind a bit more. Unfortunately I am at a spot where I am stuck in a corner and there are no ways for me to grind without advancing through the next story stage.

+ Show Spoiler +
Also fuck Steal Heart


https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2015 01:11 GMT
#9348
FFT is a lot harder, although still relatively easy outside a few tricky battles (if you refrain from using the broken stuff).
FFTA is ridiculously abusable, especially for Vieras early on, while your chumps do start as chumps in FFT.

Oh, in Tactics Ogre for the first few levels (and still pretty close beyond that), a one-level advantage is often enough to one-shot another character, there's auto-riposte unless you hit from the back (and shields have high blocking% from the front), and the game loves to give you difficult to save neutral characters during missions.
It's a great game from what I've seen so far. But it's so. Freaking. HARD.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
September 01 2015 01:14 GMT
#9349
On September 01 2015 10:05 Sufficiency wrote:
Am I totally playing the game wrong or is FFT a fairly difficult game? While I could easily breeze through the initial levels of FFTA/A2 I struggled fairly heavily in the first chapter of FFT.


It's not too hard, the early game at least, but it's definitely less "all strategies are viable ^_^" than most other srpgs. Once you get into the late-earlygame the class strength differences mean you can basically re-select a difficulty setting depending on your team composition. Between that and grinding, you can basically make the game as difficult or easy as you like (with some work), so I like that aspect of it.

There is one rooftop level that you literally need RNG to not lose like round 1 though iirc.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 01:18:45
September 01 2015 01:15 GMT
#9350
On September 01 2015 10:00 Eppa! wrote:
Xi jinpings corruption reforms can in scale and breadth be seen to surpas what can be seen as political moves for personal power. From western perspective the economy (primarily in the large companies) the massive control of the government is seen as negative while this isn't as clear cut especially when you leave the sandboxes of economists. This is still the central argument that is brought up as the weakness of China.

Ill watch the second video in full once I am bored out of my mind again.

1) Absolutely. The anti-corruption drive is as much the crystallization of decades of increasing popular outcry against perceived and actual corruption, particularly against local officials (in a reverse with the US, national government officials are generally perceived as far more trustworthy than local or provincial level officials in China), as a response to slowing economic growth (a result of many compounding factors).

While there may be (and probably are) underlying political motives to it, to view it as solely political is fairly myopic when considering the large degree of transparency it's bringing to local government financing, for instance.

2) Government control is a mixed bag, and something I don't feel like touching on in depth too much. But in general, the relationship between the central government and, for instance, and their SOEs (State Operated Enterprises), have been rather strained, and the actual level of control the central government has on them far less than Western media tends to portray, given the political clout many of the CEOs wield.


Last video/conference of the day, that somewhat tangentially relates to the last point (read the book they've published, and would 100% recommend as well for those interested in the topic),



14:44 has a very amusing anecdote.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2015 01:37 GMT
#9351
So basically China is corrupt and has a lot of debt and they were trying to manage it with strict government regulations and controls on shit to artificially stabilize something that shouldn't have been stable in the first place, and it worked for a while but the problem is getting big enough that it's starting to not work anymore?

IS THAT A GOOD TL;DR TEACHER TOLKIEN?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2015 01:37 GMT
#9352
HS Arena is SO much better than MTG draft.
Run into a druid with Malorne, Kel'thuzad,2xIronbarks and 2xStarfire at 1 win.
Super fucking fair.

What would make it even better would be if I get another classic pack at the end of all this.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 01:39:22
September 01 2015 01:39 GMT
#9353
On September 01 2015 10:37 Ketara wrote:
So basically China is corrupt and has a lot of debt and they were trying to manage it with strict government regulations and controls on shit to artificially stabilize something that shouldn't have been stable in the first place, and it worked for a while but the problem is getting big enough that it's starting to not work anymore?

IS THAT A GOOD TL;DR TEACHER TOLKIEN?

Sort of?

Like 50% of that.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2015 01:40 GMT
#9354
Give me a better TL;DR then.

Explain it like you're talking to a volunteer worker with a history degree who doesn't even understand the value of his own bank account.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 01 2015 01:42 GMT
#9355
On September 01 2015 10:40 Ketara wrote:
Give me a better TL;DR then.

Explain it like you're talking to a volunteer worker with a history degree who doesn't even understand the value of his own bank account.


This is why the Euro's make fun of us..
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2015 01:45 GMT
#9356
On September 01 2015 10:42 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 10:40 Ketara wrote:
Give me a better TL;DR then.

Explain it like you're talking to a volunteer worker with a history degree who doesn't even understand the value of his own bank account.


This is why the Euro's make fun of us..


No it's the other way around. That's why we make fun of the Euros.

The Euros make fun of us because we don't have free education and healthcare so we can all get history degrees and go do volunteer work.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-01 01:49:54
September 01 2015 01:48 GMT
#9357
On September 01 2015 10:37 Ketara wrote:
So basically China is corrupt and has a lot of debt and they were trying to manage it with strict government regulations and controls on shit to artificially stabilize something that shouldn't have been stable in the first place, and it worked for a while but the problem is getting big enough that it's starting to not work anymore?

IS THAT A GOOD TL;DR TEACHER TOLKIEN?

America/9/11 Tl:dr gj.

Its like someone reading every other word of Harry Potter and making a story of it.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 01 2015 02:00 GMT
#9358
I took today off to drive a faniliy member to the airport. Only to find out that they just wanted to harass me for money, and never needed to go to the airport.

I love my life.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 01 2015 02:02 GMT
#9359
That's really weird.

Why would they want to go to the airport to harass you for money.

Seems like if they wanted to harass you for money they'd want to go out to lunch or something.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 01 2015 02:02 GMT
#9360
On September 01 2015 11:00 Cixah wrote:
I took today off to drive a faniliy member to the airport. Only to find out that they just wanted to harass me for money, and never needed to go to the airport.

I love my life.

You constantly seem to have toxic relationships in your life.
It's your boy Guzma!
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