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On September 13 2017 04:56 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2017 04:54 ruypture wrote:I really like my hero academia so far but it feels like naruto with less character development. Deku and bakugo are the most fleshed out and everyone else is just miles behind in terms of depth and motivations. Half the class i don't know much besides their quirk and their name. Naruto had zero character development for 95% of the anime lifespan. It seems a bit wrong to criticize academia for that. It's done a good job fleshing out some of the characters as the story progresses though. Todoroki is arguably more fleshed out that Bakugo by a fair margin.
let me clarify, side character depth. look at haku and zabuza. there was an entire arc that helped us learn more about these two characters that weren't really relevant after that arc.
compared to the summer tournament in MHA where we learned the other students quirks, and learned something about that one mind control kid from class B. we really didn't learn anything about anyone in class A besides the main characters.
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On September 13 2017 05:09 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2017 04:54 ruypture wrote:On September 12 2017 05:17 Requizen wrote:MUSIC MONDAY GO BEYOND PLUS ULTRAAAAA + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHakl2bMQYI EXTRA HYPE VERSION 2 + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSZPUk1JjBE I really like my hero academia so far but it feels like naruto with less character development. Deku and bakugo are the most fleshed out and everyone else is just miles behind in terms of depth and motivations. Half the class i don't know much besides their quirk and their name. I'd rather have better main characters and overall story/pacing than 1000 side characters with their own arcs, which is what killed Naruto and Bleach for me. There's not as much development outside of Deku, but there's enough to make the characters fun to spend time with and the plot moves along way better than most other shounen, which is why I'm digging it.
I totally agree that the characters are fun, I just dislike the filler episodes because when they're over we haven't learned much about the other students, so they feel kinda pointless to me
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On September 13 2017 04:54 ruypture wrote:I really like my hero academia so far but it feels like naruto with less character development. Deku and bakugo are the most fleshed out and everyone else is just miles behind in terms of depth and motivations. Half the class i don't know much besides their quirk and their name.
That's not a fair judgement. Naruto's classmates were completely undeveloped during the first story arc. It wasn't until the second arc, starting episode 20, that we even began to see any development for them beyond "this is Sakura's rival" or "this character is shy and secretly likes Naruto". They're basically little more than set pieces for the initial few episodes establishing Naruto's place as the class clown and local pariah.
Which is fine, developing characters takes time that sometimes storytelling can't afford, hence archetypes serve as stand-ins. It's just easy to project character development that happens later backwards onto them, especially with characters we know and love (case in point, 35 episodes into Naruto we still hadn't reached the Chuunin exam's tower, let alone seen either of Shikamaru's iconic fights).
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I do wonder how long ago it was you watched Naruto and when you watched Boku no Hero. I just watched up to latest in last few weeks so it's pretty fresh. Kind of confused about the filler comment since there was basically no filler iirc. Naruto had tons of filler and it took a very long time to develop side characters. Even then it was mainly just Naruto that got developed throughout the story with the side characters getting token development at times. This was over 400 episodes too.
Boku no Hero's pace has been pretty fantastic. It's no HxH but hell what is. It's fun and giving cast members their moments to shine with little down time. Pretty solid for a Shounen.
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I'd just like to comment that, while I normally shit on Naruto, the Great Bridge arc is actually really good before the series really goes and becomes the blandest shounen ever. It actually has a couple interesting ideas and themes other than "who is the strongest."
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Naruto's peaks were never the issue. It's really just a product of how cutthroat the industry is that you have to sacrifice story and narrative in order to meet the production demands until eventually it falls low enough that the industry cuts your story leaving you with nothing. Naruto could have been great if it was allowed time instead of the way jump operates imo.
I really dislike how Manga operates but I guess Comics aren't exactly that great. At least web manga/comics seem to be taking off. HxH will prob be the pinnacle of shounen for a long time just due to how much freaking time togashi takes to write shit the bastard.
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
the HxH bee queen alien arc is trash tier though
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yea dunno why everyone likes it so much
by far the worst arc i guess the writer is just better at the more fun silly stuff
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Yorknew was better than like any shounen so it's fine.
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I pretty much thought the only part of Naruto that was good was the chuunin exams.
And yet I watched the whole thing. I'm a disgrace.
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I'm a filthy casual and enjoyed Naruto without much complaint. It's been awhile and I never did finish, lines up pretty much with when I got married and shared the tv screen. I'll play video games before watching a show by myself.
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Chuunin exams put me to sleep. I really dislike tournaments in shounens so maybe thats why.
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I the Jiraiya vs. Pain/Sasuke vs. Itachi was my favorite Naruto arc.
Participating in my first RP campaign this Friday (Pathfinder). Hella excited, especially when I've been watching Critical Role, basically non-stop since starting it (on episode 30 now).
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On September 13 2017 21:58 rbetenoire wrote:
Chuunin exams put me to sleep. I really dislike tournaments in shounens so maybe thats why.
Tournament arc in Hero Academia was fucking awesome tho. Easily worth it for Deku v Todoroki and then just Bakugo at the end.
In non-weeb news, the first 9 chapters of the next Stormlight Archives book are up online and it's just so good to read Brandon Sanderson again. Not much revealed but I love these characters so much that just seeing them again is worth the preview.
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No thanks. I'll just read the whole book when it comes out. No spoilers!@
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On September 13 2017 23:18 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2017 21:58 rbetenoire wrote:
Chuunin exams put me to sleep. I really dislike tournaments in shounens so maybe thats why. Tournament arc in Hero Academia was fucking awesome tho. Easily worth it for Deku v Todoroki and then just Bakugo at the end. In non-weeb news, the first 9 chapters of the next Stormlight Archives book are up online and it's just so good to read Brandon Sanderson again. Not much revealed but I love these characters so much that just seeing them again is worth the preview.
Speaking of waiting for books, has anyone heard anything about Dresden Files #16?
I went insane and bought every book and read them all in a month and I've been waiting like two years now for book 16 and it's been so long since I heard anything about Jim Butcher besides Codex Alera
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On September 13 2017 20:17 Ketara wrote:
I pretty much thought the only part of Naruto that was good was the chuunin exams.
And yet I watched the whole thing. I'm a disgrace.
Same
Naruto couldnt even achieve the basic task of making me like the protagonists and/or disliking the bad guys. I was SO FUCKING HAPPY WHEN EVERYONE DIED at the end of Pain arc, the rage when retarded plot device no jutsu revived everyone was so real. Teut is my witness.
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I saw it was an anime about a ninja wearing a bright orange jumpsuit and hard passed.
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On September 13 2017 23:28 ruypture wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2017 23:18 Requizen wrote:On September 13 2017 21:58 rbetenoire wrote:
Chuunin exams put me to sleep. I really dislike tournaments in shounens so maybe thats why. Tournament arc in Hero Academia was fucking awesome tho. Easily worth it for Deku v Todoroki and then just Bakugo at the end. In non-weeb news, the first 9 chapters of the next Stormlight Archives book are up online and it's just so good to read Brandon Sanderson again. Not much revealed but I love these characters so much that just seeing them again is worth the preview. Speaking of waiting for books, has anyone heard anything about Dresden Files #16? I went insane and bought every book and read them all in a month and I've been waiting like two years now for book 16 and it's been so long since I heard anything about Jim Butcher besides Codex Alera
I check his website every month or so. It's still TBD unfortunately as far as release. I really enjoyed the first Cinder Spires book so its rather annoying to have multiple series to wait on and its the same guy working on both... I did this to myself though.
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