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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 19 2017 03:03 Holyflare wrote: Or do I want the party of get all the students to vote us for reducing fees and then triple them lulz. Well, to be fair pretty much everyone senior in that party is gone now :p Who's the fourth option? greens? | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 19 2017 03:09 Holyflare wrote: Actually it's the perfect time. Tories are ahead in opinion polls. If they win they're in for another 5 years afaik. Calling it now is smart. If they win they get to remain in power and gut the entirety of the UK's services for money and leave the next government nothing. If they lose they don't have to deal with brexit. Win win imo. Oh yea I'm not saying it's bad for them. It's bad for well, everyone else and is just kind of silly that it's able to happen in the first place. I guess at the end of the day this kind of highlights the massive flaw with democracy. People are short term thinkers and sway so easily that politicians only care about short term shit so at the end of the day everyone gets fucked while they get rich. Also because poor people get fucked while the politicians scream that the problem is the other people not them and they the champions of the poor so they get elected again only to fuck the poor over some more. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
All major parties have changed leaders since the last GE, and there has been a very controversial referendum. It's kind of hard to carry out proper brexit negotiations when you don't even really have a mandate in your own country. This way we'll basically have an election to decide which party gets to handle the implementation of the referendum from last year, rather than it being left up to a small majority tory government, led by someone who's never been elected. It's pretty much a textbook case of where an early election would technically be in the countries best interest. It's just a pity labour is so fucked... But I guess you can't blame the tories for that | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On April 19 2017 03:13 killerdog wrote: Well, to be fair pretty much everyone senior in that party is gone now :p Who's the fourth option? greens? Yeh greens. The party of good ideology but shit all motivation for anyone to vote them. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
I should really register to vote though. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 19 2017 03:32 Eppa! wrote: I like Corbyn I should really register to vote though. Nice guy Completely ineffective leader. Tbh brexit is largely his fault, he did jack shit to motivate labour turnout, and it showed. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
These reviews are insane. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 19 2017 04:04 Eppa! wrote: Idgaf about leadership, his politics are on point and while I disagree with him on EU in general (except his views on the Greece thing.) Might be good that torys get a majority when shit hits the fan with brexit and the next recession. Well, they already have a majority. What this will mean is (if things go as expected,) they'll go from a small majority to a larger majority. This will free them up from the threat of a few fringe members of the party playing kingmaker in any negotiations. Having a "mandate" and enough spare votes in commons lets them railroad through their exact image of whatever the "ham and eggs" brexit they're saying they want actually is. The second effect is that it moves the clock for the next GE to 2022, and with brexit happening in 2019, that means that they have 3 years to try and make people forget about whatever shitstorm happens during and just after brexit, rather than having to sit through a GE while the fallout from brexit is directly in the collective memory of the public. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 19 2017 05:29 killerdog wrote: What this will mean is (if things go as expected,) they'll go from a small majority to a larger majority. This will free them up from the threat of a few fringe members of the party playing kingmaker in any negotiations. Having a "mandate" and enough spare votes in commons lets them railroad through their exact image of whatever the "ham and eggs" brexit they're saying they want actually is. If we've learned anything from the current situation in America, it's that a mandate only matters if you have cohesive ideas beyond "what we have now sucks". | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
bw out | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 19 2017 05:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: If we've learned anything from the current situation in America, it's that a mandate only matters if you have cohesive ideas beyond "what we have now sucks". The conservatives definitely have ideas, it's just camerons government without camerons slightly more centrist attitude at the helm. The problem is those ideas suck for anyone who doesn't come from money | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On April 19 2017 06:02 Holyflare wrote: Oh, have any of you watched silicon valley? Binged the first two seasons and it's hilarious. Has it started again yet? With GoT delayed and veep being a bit meh last season, I haven't followed hbo air times lately | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On April 19 2017 06:02 Holyflare wrote: Oh, have any of you watched silicon valley? Binged the first two seasons and it's hilarious. The last episode of the 1st season is probably the best writing I've seen in any show ever. | ||
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