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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 17 2017 21:15 GMT
#32181
ME2 is better than ME1 provided you're willing to accept what it is. ME1 is Bioware trying too hard to do all the things that they're actually bad at, and ME2 is them just saying fuck it and giving up on those things.

Though Bioware games have been consistently overrated since their acquisition by EA. They're just yet another EA-owned developer now. ME2/DAO was like their last sane gasp before getting completely consumed and putting out DA2/TOR.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 21:30:35
March 17 2017 21:29 GMT
#32182
6 day work week is almost at an end, culminating in a day seeing patients back-to-back every 15 min tomorrow.

Cut down on 2 of my 4 practice locations to keep things simpler (cutting out one of the worst offices I have had the displeasure of being involved with).

Baby is insanely gassy and doesn't sleep particularly well, and as such neither have I. I've been sick twice now in the past month. Still totally worth it though.

Modern masters draft till I drop on Sunday (and I probably will)... I can even justify the money spent based on how things have been going.

No idea why I wrote all this but I just feel really disconnected from people lately and writing out a life update feels good for some reason.

Hope everyone is doing well. Congrats JG!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 17 2017 22:30 GMT
#32183
I truly don't know how you do it Wave, but I am in awe that you are managing.

I fall apart after one night of poor sleep or an unusually busy work day and you are trucking through many times that plus two children.

We'll all be here to welcome you back in a couple years' time, haha.
Writer@WriterYamato
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 17 2017 22:51 GMT
#32184
+ Show Spoiler [mm17] +
First draft: went WRG, maily green with some splashies (like 2 wooly thoctars, aka the best card ever)
Had basilisk collar (technically a great card but I was always too busy just killing them), ooze, swagtusk (firstpick), advent of the wurm and primal command, so I went 3-0 ez. Price packs had a marsh flats and a griseldaddy.

Second draft: esper (or as i like to call it ass bear), went half unburial rites nonsense, half blink nonsense, and half mystical teachings instant packages and ground everyone down ez. 3-0, plenty of bounce to stall, and an unbeatable lategame. entreat was my only rare/mythic and I never even cast it, no need. Prize packs had an abrupt decay.

Shitty pulls, but draft was ezpz.
Nobody picked manafixing highly enough so both drafts i was the literal only person with enough signets and gates to actually cast my stuff, had more consistent mana with 3c than others had with 2.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 23:06:05
March 17 2017 23:04 GMT
#32185
On March 18 2017 06:15 TheYango wrote:
ME2 is better than ME1 provided you're willing to accept what it is. ME1 is Bioware trying too hard to do all the things that they're actually bad at, and ME2 is them just saying fuck it and giving up on those things.

Though Bioware games have been consistently overrated since their acquisition by EA. They're just yet another EA-owned developer now. ME2/DAO was like their last sane gasp before getting completely consumed and putting out DA2/TOR.

I dunno, I enjoyed TOR. Is it Kotor3? No, but its the most enjoyable MMO I've ever played and apparently recent(stretching the term here) content additions have put the game in the best state it's ever been.

DA2 was... rough, to say the least.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-17 23:24:45
March 17 2017 23:21 GMT
#32186
On March 18 2017 07:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [mm17] +
First draft: went WRG, maily green with some splashies (like 2 wooly thoctars, aka the best card ever)
Had basilisk collar (technically a great card but I was always too busy just killing them), ooze, swagtusk (firstpick), advent of the wurm and primal command, so I went 3-0 ez. Price packs had a marsh flats and a griseldaddy.

Second draft: esper (or as i like to call it ass bear), went half unburial rites nonsense, half blink nonsense, and half mystical teachings instant packages and ground everyone down ez. 3-0, plenty of bounce to stall, and an unbeatable lategame. entreat was my only rare/mythic and I never even cast it, no need. Prize packs had an abrupt decay.

Shitty pulls, but draft was ezpz.
Nobody picked manafixing highly enough so both drafts i was the literal only person with enough signets and gates to actually cast my stuff, had more consistent mana with 3c than others had with 2.

If I've learnt anything from LSV it's that formats with busted old cards means you just pick all the mana fixing possible and own people.

Signets P1P1 OP
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 17 2017 23:45 GMT
#32187
signets went around the table like these people never cube drafted before
gates criminally underrated too

it was hard to not laugh at people when they got salty or mad cuz they got color screwed.
yeah man maybe you needed more fixing than the fetch you only picked because it's worth money.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-18 00:12:05
March 18 2017 00:11 GMT
#32188
BioWare lost the ball because they released DA2 and people were like "Ehh it's not fantastic, but whatever I'll wait for the next game" and then they release ME3 and people were like "Oh. Oh this is just a thing now."

If it was just one fluke I still would have remained a fanboy, but two in a row did it for me.

I bought Inquisition and then only ever played like three hours of it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
March 18 2017 01:00 GMT
#32189
I tried Inquisition on the access thing, it was ok until it got to the hub part... :shrug:
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 18 2017 01:15 GMT
#32190
Store rules are opened rare+foil written down and you get them back at the end (how we handle masterpieces basically), rest is keep what you draft, and winner gets a pack.
We only had 5 people, 'cause several regulars weren't here, others stayed on AER (they still only had a 6-man pod) and clerk had too much work tonight to join us and avoid byes.
One guy was drafting for the first time and cracked Scalding Tarn pack 1, he's gonna have severe expectations of draft values.

+ Show Spoiler +
Rares were Blood Moon, Boros Reckoner and Verdant Catacombs. Foils Evil Twin, Goblin Electromancer and Seaside Citadel.

I went into the draft hoping to build something UW-based because value is sweet, but someone upstream was cutting W super hard, so I moved toward UB. First picks were Lingering Souls, Selesnya Signet, Simic Guildgate so missing W was pretty bad for me.
I added R in pack 2 because it was becoming obviously open (still no W at all), also picking creatures I was missing at that point. Plenty of fixing but all in G and aside from Urban Evolution I saw nothing I could have wanted to splash (I didn't have the cards to make use of the BG sacrifice/token-based cards that wheeled twice).
Pack 3 G turns out to still be somewhat open, but the G fixing is in the same packs (and is the only fixing too) so I couldn't pick the two Sprouting Thrinax, even after they wheeled. Such a waste.
+ Show Spoiler [final deck] +
3 islands
6 swamps
2 mountains
2 Orzhov guildgates
2 Izzet guildgates
1 Boros Guildgate
1 Scalding Tarn

Kraken Hatchling
Goblin Electromancer
Izzet Charm
Agony Warp
Izzet Signet

Sea Gate Oracle
Tandem Lookout
Vampire Aristocrat
Hanweir Lancer
Kathari Bomber
Lingering Souls
Gift of Orzhova
Seal of Doom

Venser
Abyssal Specter
Ogre Jailer
Falkenrath Noble
Rubblebelt Maaka
Chandra's Outrage
Aethertow
Soul Ransom

Spire Monitor
Torrent of Souls
(I switched Torrent for Cruel Ultimatum in a "fuck it" moment and because I don't have great creatures anyway)

Pretty much a pile of cards without any real synergy. I passed some Unearth creatures like Corpse Connoisseur early because I didn't expect to use them much in an UB base, I also passed Grisly Spectacle (and again when they wheeled) because I expected wide small tokens more than big creatures (also I passed 2 Cower in Fear in a row despite that 'cause I hoped they'd wheel, they didn't).
On the other hand I didn't pick that many instants pack 1, so I cut a Mystical Teachings which had ~3-4 targets in my deck... so no instants/removal control for UB, basically no unearth for BR... nice fixing but no synergy, baaad.

Decks in order were Grixis (me), Jund, Bant, Bant, Naya. I clearly should have dropped U and went to Jund during pack 2, if only because of all the fixing offered and Jund clearly open since the BG cards weren't being picked up.
But me being bad isn't new.

Round 1 I get a bye. Welp. I get to watch the new guy lose only because he's missing recursion interactions (Stoic Angel + Gideon's Lawkeeper is preventing him from finishing the job with his Flickerwisp + Madcap Skills, but he could have used a sac outlet and the W res instant to recur a Kor Hookmaster at opponent's EoT and prevent his Flickerwisp from getting tapped).

Round 2 vs Bant, games 1 and 3 are decided by mana (as in 3 1-landers in a row as I mull to 5 game one, and game 3 mulligan then slight flooding and never finding my colours despite that). Game 3 my opponent played 3 Centaurs and blinked them a couple times, beatdowns + lifegain doing work.
Game 2 we both flooded ridiculously hard (both ended with 11+ lands for 7-8 spells) but still got to play some once we started drawing spells. He used the G/W populate anti-artifact card on a golem token I was about to kill, for pseudo-value because he didn't expect me to have enchants... so I obliged and played Gift of Orzhova on the Jailkeeper next turn and started bashing with a 5/5 lifelink flyer. Beats overloaded Cyclonic Rift!
Also drove the point home with a Soul Ransom (and a sac outlet out) on his Wayfaring Temple when it got played (didn't want to use it on his 3/3 tokens).
We flooded so hard I got the mana for Ultimatum but it wasn't in my deck at that point, we joked a bit about it.

Round 3 vs Naya.
Turns out Unflinching Courage on one of W's first strike commons is pretty harmful, uh.
My opponent refused to attack with it into open mana after I revealed Aethertow (missed the "attacking" clause, welp) but tapper+hasty fliers+monster is scary and I don't have enough instants to hold it forever, I drop at 3 life. I have Ultimatum in hand and he's got 1 card, 3 creatures after the previous blocks... but instead of a 3rd B source I topdeck Soul Ransom. Good enough! He taps it a couple turns till he can discard to make me sac his creature, then facing lethal topdecks a threaten effect for my Falkenrath Noble... which I can thanksfully sac to another outlet.
Game 2 he keeps a 1-lander and loses for it (we'll learn he only played 13 lands... on the other hand his curve barely went above 3 so 16 woulda been fine).
We played a couple other games and t2 2/1 first strike, t3 courage, t4 courage kinda wins games on its own and only needs 3 lands!

Games were fun, but I'll get utterly destroyed next thursday if I draft like this again.
Really should have recognised that Jund was open, and made use of the fixing (Selesnya and Gruul signets, I also saw trilands but the Bant and Naya ones when you're in Grixis at that point don't look worth it).

Format isn't too fast but with curves like my 3rd opponent or a Jund token deck you can definitely have pretty explosive starts, so 5 guildgates is a bit much, uh.

Didn't expect the fetch to be so valuable. I'm not sure what I'll do with my pulls since I won't use them right now (well I have decks they could go into, but they're casual EDH ideas), either sell them asap or keep them 'cause they aren't stuff I wouldn't keep (like Thragtusk, Cavern of Souls, etc.).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 18 2017 01:52 GMT
#32191
On March 18 2017 06:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
6 day work week is almost at an end, culminating in a day seeing patients back-to-back every 15 min tomorrow.

Cut down on 2 of my 4 practice locations to keep things simpler (cutting out one of the worst offices I have had the displeasure of being involved with).

Baby is insanely gassy and doesn't sleep particularly well, and as such neither have I. I've been sick twice now in the past month. Still totally worth it though.

Modern masters draft till I drop on Sunday (and I probably will)... I can even justify the money spent based on how things have been going.

No idea why I wrote all this but I just feel really disconnected from people lately and writing out a life update feels good for some reason.

Hope everyone is doing well. Congrats JG!


Thanks!
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-18 02:02:37
March 18 2017 02:01 GMT
#32192
Lol Dandel your store is all newbies and you crush them every time huh?
Alaric how come your store is reasonable only for this set?
Also grats on your pulls guys.

My drafts unfortunately aren't Swiss but single Elim at probably the second most competitive store in Toronto, so I'll likely go 0-1 drop 0-1 drop and hope my pulls aren't like .... Seance and that garbage demon. Gonna have to draft for value to some degree, but hopefully it'll be easy if everyone else isn't.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 18 2017 02:07 GMT
#32193
ME:A's animations are pretty lulzy. Was watching someone play it and I saw a somewhat old dude walk away from a conversation rigged with what seemed to be exaggerated female animations. That was hilarious.

Even if they fix that though some of the dialogue in the game is.... pretty bad, with some weird voice acting at times. I don't recall ME1/2/3 having that problem.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 18 2017 02:20 GMT
#32194
Because the rare value is higher than usual and more versatile between the meh and the big ones, and the packs are triple the price? Packs are actually 11€ each here, with 10$ = less than 10€, which is weird.
I don't think I'd draft MM3 single elim, or even draft single elim events in general. I get that it makes it easier to "draft till you drop" when people make pods faster (also mixes them and on paper creates some kind of matchmaking with 0-1 people prob closer in skill amongst themselves and stuff) but when I draft these sweet cards/decks I want to use them more than once!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 18 2017 02:40 GMT
#32195
i'm about 6 hours into nier now and this game is amazing. it was a little slow paced early on but it quickly turned up to 11
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-18 06:31:31
March 18 2017 06:31 GMT
#32196
I bought inquisition got 50hrs in then system died and playstation plus expired so no way to get it off my hard drive. It was funish. Haven't started over yet. ME2 was okay but was too lazy to get the ending right.

I'm not buying games until summer because I don't feel like hauling my nice systems up to my dorm room. And I've still barely played FFXV or dishonored 2. Come summer I'll probably buy horizon.

for now I'm just trying to beat everything on Resonance of Fate for the xbox 360 and it's started to get boring. (ran out of things to do so just mindlessly level grinding atm. like 65 ish hrs in).
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 18 2017 07:09 GMT
#32197
In other news, I've watched 1 episode of Iron Fist so far.

It's kinda... Racist.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-18 07:39:56
March 18 2017 07:39 GMT
#32198
On March 18 2017 16:09 Ketara wrote:
In other news, I've watched 1 episode of Iron Fist so far.

It's kinda... Racist.


I've seen two reviews so far and they weren't good. I was going to boycott it anyway cause this was not the themesong

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 18 2017 15:59 GMT
#32199
On March 18 2017 16:09 Ketara wrote:
In other news, I've watched 1 episode of Iron Fist so far.

It's kinda... Racist.

How?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 18 2017 16:47 GMT
#32200
You guys who have played Dragon Age games which should I try first? Inquisition or Origins?
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