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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 31 2016 03:20 GMT
#31201
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 31 2016 04:03 GMT
#31202
Gonna stream some superior CCG, with some REAL limited play.
Screw Hearthstone.
Eternal:

www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 31 2016 04:17 GMT
#31203
Man I would have liked to keep playing eternal but after grinding during the beta I got maybe a tenth of what I had grinded when they ended the beta. Couldn't even remotely begin to build any decks that I cared about and I had already been through the newbie grind once so I stopped playing. Felt bad, it's a good game.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 31 2016 06:50 GMT
#31204
On December 31 2016 13:17 phyvo wrote:
Man I would have liked to keep playing eternal but after grinding during the beta I got maybe a tenth of what I had grinded when they ended the beta. Couldn't even remotely begin to build any decks that I cared about and I had already been through the newbie grind once so I stopped playing. Felt bad, it's a good game.

I get not wanting to do the grind again.
They say theyre not resetting again though so there's that.

Honestly I'm really only going to play it for limited most likely and build up slowly towards constructed decks just like IRL with MTG, but in this case I'm not going to have to throw money at it. It's win win for me, and I LOVE that it's a REAL draft format.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 31 2016 07:21 GMT
#31205
I made a hardcore ironman account on Old school runescape.

Someone save me
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 31 2016 07:33 GMT
#31206
TIL wrists can't turn
am I retarded or am I retouurded
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 08:07:57
December 31 2016 08:07 GMT
#31207
On December 31 2016 15:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 13:17 phyvo wrote:
Man I would have liked to keep playing eternal but after grinding during the beta I got maybe a tenth of what I had grinded when they ended the beta. Couldn't even remotely begin to build any decks that I cared about and I had already been through the newbie grind once so I stopped playing. Felt bad, it's a good game.

I get not wanting to do the grind again.
They say theyre not resetting again though so there's that.

Honestly I'm really only going to play it for limited most likely and build up slowly towards constructed decks just like IRL with MTG, but in this case I'm not going to have to throw money at it. It's win win for me, and I LOVE that it's a REAL draft format.


While I was playing it I did a real draft one time for some starting quest where you had to do a real draft. I promptly lost every game in the most horrible fashion possible every time and concluded that the forge was where a clueless pleb like me belonged. Drafts are hard, man, people are smarter than the AI.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 08:23:43
December 31 2016 08:14 GMT
#31208
I dislike limited type of games so also kind of got off Eternal. Couldn't make any kind of ok deck after playing it for a few weeks. Compared to Shadowverse when I played like 2 weeks and can make 1/2 decent decks. Dislike how limited focus card games are.

Hope Gwent isn't like that. Really looking forward to it.

edit: Well HS is just "pay us money while we do jack shit" focused.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 31 2016 10:47 GMT
#31209
On December 31 2016 12:20 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me

You really should give grim dawn a try if you like the genre. It is basically Titan quest 2 but in a different setting.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 31 2016 16:12 GMT
#31210
On December 31 2016 05:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 16:04 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2016 01:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 29 2016 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sent in my final car payment today. Feels so good.

Now I can start saving for new computer things


Started a new build yesterday.

Didn't boot up.

Found out I fucked up and got the wrong RAM. AGAIN.

Hopefully it starts today!

If it makes you feel any better, when I made my computer I got a mobo/cpu deal from a retailer and had to send it back(which involved an hour drive both ways) because the mobo wouldn't read ANY ram, regardless of compatibility. So when I got home with a new one and get it going, my CPU fan doesn't spin because the wiring ever so slightly touched the fan blade and stopped it from moving.


Actually I'm just an idiot. I didn't seat the RAM properly. Luckily I didn't end up re-purchasing anything unnecessary; a helpful Micro Center employee steered me straight.

Now I have an AMAZING rig. I gotta try streaming on it soonish.


Specs? I think I'm gonna start planning out my new rig. All I know right now is I want a 1080
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 31 2016 16:56 GMT
#31211
On December 31 2016 19:47 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 12:20 Frolossus wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me

You really should give grim dawn a try if you like the genre. It is basically Titan quest 2 but in a different setting.


What features set it apart from Diablo 3, path of exile, or Torchlight? I see that I've played titan quest in my steam library, but I don't remember it.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-31 17:42:15
December 31 2016 17:41 GMT
#31212
On January 01 2017 01:56 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 19:47 nafta wrote:
On December 31 2016 12:20 Frolossus wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me

You really should give grim dawn a try if you like the genre. It is basically Titan quest 2 but in a different setting.


What features set it apart from Diablo 3, path of exile, or Torchlight? I see that I've played titan quest in my steam library, but I don't remember it.

Rather than classes you have 6 skill trees and you can combo 2 however you wish. There is also a devotion system (basically masteries) which lets you customize a bit more. There are more bosses and non trash mobs compared to d3. Haven't played path so can't say anything about it. It isn't really revolutionary or w.e. Just a solid arpg.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 31 2016 17:58 GMT
#31213
On December 31 2016 17:14 Numy wrote:
I dislike limited type of games so also kind of got off Eternal. Couldn't make any kind of ok deck after playing it for a few weeks. Compared to Shadowverse when I played like 2 weeks and can make 1/2 decent decks. Dislike how limited focus card games are.

Hope Gwent isn't like that. Really looking forward to it.

edit: Well HS is just "pay us money while we do jack shit" focused.

Your edit made me laugh.
I still don't get how anyone can hate limited though
Best format ever all time a million years
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 31 2016 19:55 GMT
#31214
On January 01 2017 01:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 05:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 30 2016 16:04 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2016 01:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 29 2016 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sent in my final car payment today. Feels so good.

Now I can start saving for new computer things


Started a new build yesterday.

Didn't boot up.

Found out I fucked up and got the wrong RAM. AGAIN.

Hopefully it starts today!

If it makes you feel any better, when I made my computer I got a mobo/cpu deal from a retailer and had to send it back(which involved an hour drive both ways) because the mobo wouldn't read ANY ram, regardless of compatibility. So when I got home with a new one and get it going, my CPU fan doesn't spin because the wiring ever so slightly touched the fan blade and stopped it from moving.


Actually I'm just an idiot. I didn't seat the RAM properly. Luckily I didn't end up re-purchasing anything unnecessary; a helpful Micro Center employee steered me straight.

Now I have an AMAZING rig. I gotta try streaming on it soonish.


Specs? I think I'm gonna start planning out my new rig. All I know right now is I want a 1080


1080 / 16 GM RAM / 480 GM SSD + 2 TB HDD / i7 / Asus Z170 "Pro Gaming" motherboard / EVGA 650 wt. PSU

This was... an expensive PC. It's good as hell though.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
December 31 2016 20:47 GMT
#31215
On January 01 2017 04:55 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2017 01:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 31 2016 05:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 30 2016 16:04 Gahlo wrote:
On December 30 2016 01:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On December 29 2016 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Sent in my final car payment today. Feels so good.

Now I can start saving for new computer things


Started a new build yesterday.

Didn't boot up.

Found out I fucked up and got the wrong RAM. AGAIN.

Hopefully it starts today!

If it makes you feel any better, when I made my computer I got a mobo/cpu deal from a retailer and had to send it back(which involved an hour drive both ways) because the mobo wouldn't read ANY ram, regardless of compatibility. So when I got home with a new one and get it going, my CPU fan doesn't spin because the wiring ever so slightly touched the fan blade and stopped it from moving.


Actually I'm just an idiot. I didn't seat the RAM properly. Luckily I didn't end up re-purchasing anything unnecessary; a helpful Micro Center employee steered me straight.

Now I have an AMAZING rig. I gotta try streaming on it soonish.


Specs? I think I'm gonna start planning out my new rig. All I know right now is I want a 1080


1080 / 16 GM RAM / 480 GM SSD + 2 TB HDD / i7 / Asus Z170 "Pro Gaming" motherboard / EVGA 650 wt. PSU

This was... an expensive PC. It's good as hell though.

The 1080 will get ya. I'll post pictures of my new one, I just did some last touches to it yesterday. Only thing more I'm thinking about is an additional fan in the front for positive air pressure or w/e.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 31 2016 23:33 GMT
#31216
HAPPY NEW YEAR PHAGES
2016 WAS FUCKING BRILLIANT LET'S MAKE 2017 EVEN BETTER
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 01 2017 00:05 GMT
#31217
2016 best year.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
January 01 2017 22:35 GMT
#31218
On December 31 2016 19:47 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 12:20 Frolossus wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me

You really should give grim dawn a try if you like the genre. It is basically Titan quest 2 but in a different setting.


Speaking of Titan Quest 2, I got it in some bundle ages ago and never tried it, has it aged well enough to be worth playing still?
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January 01 2017 22:42 GMT
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On January 01 2017 09:05 Ketara wrote:
2016 best year.


I strongly disagree.
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January 01 2017 22:47 GMT
#31220
On January 02 2017 07:35 red_ wrote:
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On December 31 2016 19:47 nafta wrote:
On December 31 2016 12:20 Frolossus wrote:
On December 31 2016 10:55 red_ wrote:
On December 30 2016 08:13 Frolossus wrote:
On December 30 2016 07:44 red_ wrote:
On December 28 2016 16:19 sung_moon wrote:
I technically already have enough games to play atm from Steam Sales, but can anyone recommend me a game with a good/rewarding loot system (outside of MMO's).

Weird request for a game recommendation, but it can be any genre (FPS, hack n slash, TBS, etc.) D3 has desensitized me to feeling good when loot drops lol


d2


I put a ridiculous amount of hours into d2 but I can't honestly call the loot system rewarding especially if someone is going to be playing solo and not using trade systems. I mean sure with tempered expectations and budget build guides you can do alright self found but the game as it evolved wasn't built around that at all.

I don't know what I would recommend right now. I started PoE last season and the loot system felt nice but as I was starting to get deeper into it I was feeling like it might be a bit over complicated for the sake of having 'choice' which in fairness there are apparently crazy amounts of useful and fun builds but man can the amount of different stats/drop types get crazy.

I'm always a fan of the Borderlands series but they eventually get dominated by legendary drops after all of the DLC(although if you just want to campaign it and do some questing you won't need to min max very hard and can enjoy the loot as is).

i don't think that you should go into an arpg expecting to get bis hardest content capable characters by yourself.
if you can that indicates to me that the loot system is fucked up like d3 and that the game doesn't encourage social interaction

i didn't even touch diablo 2 until this ladder season after i had 2.5k hours in d3 and its been the best arpg experience i've ever had

poe has a big problem of being unable to just pick up items and use them. you have to spend loads of currency to modify and upgrade before things become usable even for the uniques. to me it devalues the actual drops and the feeling of getting items pretty significantly. the only thing i get any rush from is picking up high tier currency


It's not just about not being able to self find enigmas and botd pieces. It's about how for any given build, some absurd amount of items you find are going to just be ducking worthless outright except for their value in a trading system. Now when I was playing on bnet this wasn't negative, it was part of the charm even, but I just can't recommend it to someone who wanted a game with a standout loot system(which when I think of what that means to me at least is that I find item drops to be rewarding, exciting, useful, but not spoonfed either, and d2 just doesn't cut it in the modern day, which isn't to say the game itself isn't still fun).

haven't tried grimdawn yet but i haven't found any newer game that matches what i want to be doing in an arpg as closely as d2 between d3, poe, torchlight 1 and 2, titan quest

d3 was great from ~2013 until they added greater rifts then the game got really stale really quickly and they kept increasing the legendary drop rate and handing out perfect gear until it wasn't even fun anymore

d3 had the best feeling combat and most fun builds for me

You really should give grim dawn a try if you like the genre. It is basically Titan quest 2 but in a different setting.


Speaking of Titan Quest 2, I got it in some bundle ages ago and never tried it, has it aged well enough to be worth playing still?

I think it has aged decently. Doubt you would play all 3 difficulties but think it is worth to blast through normal at least :D.

Also 2016 was amazing. Hopefully 2017 is even better.
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