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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
There's no real reason to make it better, though Riot is trying to force it as much as they can. Until western organizations can force their players to shape up, you're going to see players just trying to coast by and treat it as a joke instead of a job. There basically needs to be a huge influx of talent that is willing to be more disciplined than the current player pool and force them out. It was really frustrating to read that GBM article and hear that the best teams in NA fell behind because they were too busy playing Overwatch to give a shit about their job. Imagine if a pro Pitcher just didn't go to practice and instead went off to hang out at the beach or something right before a major series. He'd be fucking thrown to the wolves and out of a job. I still like watching LCS, because it gives me something to put on in the background and I like rooting for my favorite NA teams (even though they're shit). But it's pretty depressing when you compare it to what it could be. Makes me miss SC2 even more. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
I went through the numbers awhile back and iirc on average an LCS pro that either doesn't make it to playoffs or goes out first round in playoffs play something like 4-5 months of official league a year. Then you wonder why league has such a high burnout rate compared to Dota/CS. I also think it's a bit unfair to shit on them for missing practice or poor work ethic. I wouldn't be able to handle living in the same place I worked with barely any private time. The team house model just is so silly for Western culture and I'm pretty sure it helps cause the league burnout. It's not like athletes are expected to live like that. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On October 23 2016 14:30 Ketara wrote: I think worlds is stupid now. The last time a non Korean team won a series against a Korean team was 2014, and that was just OMG making it to the semifinals. Korea still won the finals that year. I'd love to see them create like a "Western" series for NA, EU, BR etc, and an "Eastern" series for Korea China and Taiwan, and have two separate events for a Western champion and an Eastern champion each year prior to doing Worlds. At least then western teams would get to win something sometime ever, and when SKT makes the whole world look stupid later in the year it won't be as depressing. We just got one of the best Bo5's at any worlds ever o.0 Would you really rather watch shitty games with white people over more series like the SKT vs ROX series, purely because the players aren't asian? Western teams get enough pity prizes in NA and EU LCS spring and summer finals, it's good they get reminded how trash they are every once in a while, might give them an incentive to actually take the game seriously | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On October 23 2016 14:30 Ketara wrote: I think worlds is stupid now. The last time a non Korean team won a series against a Korean team was 2014, and that was just OMG making it to the semifinals. Korea still won the finals that year. I'd love to see them create like a "Western" series for NA, EU, BR etc, and an "Eastern" series for Korea China and Taiwan, and have two separate events for a Western champion and an Eastern champion each year prior to doing Worlds. At least then western teams would get to win something sometime ever, and when SKT makes the whole world look stupid later in the year it won't be as depressing. boohoo white people don't win international competitions boo hoo we need affirmitive action boo hoo | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23468 Posts
at least we still got our privilege boys p sure first black guys did it 26700BC the first time they saw a chicken User was warned for this post (casual racism) | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Faeny
647 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23468 Posts
On October 24 2016 01:19 AlterKot wrote: ?????? the last line was mostly irrelevant but you could defo fry chicken wtf you just put it in metal over a fire | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On October 24 2016 01:14 Crusnik wrote: We have CS and mostly Dota, let KR have LoL, not like it's not able to be called at like 10-15 minutes anyway... Have you even watched the games in question or are you just shitting on a game you don't know anything about as a way of adding value to the conversation | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
League for the past 2 years has been incredibly snowbally. At least at pro level. Feel the normal game people play has been pretty solid. | ||
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On October 24 2016 02:06 killerdog wrote: Have you even watched the games in question or are you just shitting on a game you don't know anything about as a way of adding value to the conversation I dont watch LoL, but isn't changed a whole lot in the 2+ years since I stopped playing it, CSGO and Dota I do watch. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
On October 24 2016 02:12 Numy wrote: Besides the Rox/SKT series which was fantastic he's not exactly wrong. League for the past 2 years has been incredibly snowbally. At least at pro level. Feel the normal game people play has been pretty solid. I think a large part of that is so many teams just being trash. If they actually seeded worlds according to skill and we had 4-5 korean teams, we might be allowed more than 2 series in the entire tournament which actually deliver quality matches  SSG vs SKT will be the test of depth for korea, if that series is good too then that basically confirms that it's not a "high level league" being boring issue, it's just a westerners playing the game shittily issue. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On October 24 2016 02:48 Requizen wrote: I wonder what it would take for western organizations to give enough of a shit to make their teams better. There's no reason you should be called "professional" anything and treat your job like some of these players do. ?? which teams are you talking about exactly? From the last two years in many games, there has been a lot of development for teams in terms of player development and player support. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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