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game day spoilered because it's quite long
+ Show Spoiler +barely 2-3 just missing top8 by a game
inconsistent manabases are inconsistent
control always ez mu, tempo always shit mu
best round was vs the pummeler pseudo-infect list, rly interesting and tense mu 5/7 would play again
oh ye i was on a brewed up 5c panharmonic spice list
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Korean dominance isn't even the biggest issue at worldsome. The real problem is riot's seeding system that always makes sure the finals are super onesided. Zzzzzzz
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On October 24 2016 03:32 Eppa! wrote:
The reason the west sucks in LoL is that it never caught on in Sweden and without Sweden the west sucks.
CIS is real Western hope. Sweden's era died long ago.
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On October 24 2016 03:32 Eppa! wrote:
The reason the west sucks in LoL is that it never caught on in Sweden and without Sweden the west sucks.
That moment when the one esport sweden isn't in, is dominated by danish players
lul
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Is there any relevant game where Sweden are winning? CSGO they not, Dota they not, LoL they not. Is Sweden the NA of Europe???
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5 rounds means up to 32 people... was it that + top 8, or a bunch more so you cut at 5 rounds then top 8?
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Lets just shit on sweden for a page or two, should be plenty of ammunition :p
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On October 24 2016 02:48 Requizen wrote:
I wonder what it would take for western organizations to give enough of a shit to make their teams better. There's no reason you should be called "professional" anything and treat your job like some of these players do.
It's difficult to do much when the LCS system inflated salaries, and allow teams to buy their way in even after they get relegated, and teams can't have secondary teams or a big sub bench, because of dumb challenger series rules.
You can't grow the pro player pool the way Riot runs the scene. it puts all the emphasis on the players to train themselves.
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LOL this USGP...
5 Attack helicopters hovering overhead as the national anthem is sung by a black military guy flanked by cheerleaders
Too much freedom
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On October 24 2016 03:49 killerdog wrote:
LOL this USGP...
5 Attack helicopters hovering overhead as the national anthem is sung by a black military guy flanked by cheerleaders
Too much freedom
Oh yeah right that's starting now
Do you have a stream link?
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On October 24 2016 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:game day spoilered because it's quite long + Show Spoiler +barely 2-3 just missing top8 by a game
inconsistent manabases are inconsistent
control always ez mu, tempo always shit mu
best round was vs the pummeler pseudo-infect list, rly interesting and tense mu 5/7 would play again
oh ye i was on a brewed up 5c panharmonic spice list
I played monoblue aetherflux to a top8 and then went to get food because the mat was nissa and shit. Turns out people get salty AF when they get you to two life repeatedly and then you survive with an aetherflux in play and gain 124/life to shoot them twice.
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On October 24 2016 03:51 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 03:49 killerdog wrote:
LOL this USGP...
5 Attack helicopters hovering overhead as the national anthem is sung by a black military guy flanked by cheerleaders
Too much freedom Oh yeah right that's starting now Do you have a stream link?
pm
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On October 24 2016 03:53 Cixah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:game day spoilered because it's quite long + Show Spoiler +barely 2-3 just missing top8 by a game
inconsistent manabases are inconsistent
control always ez mu, tempo always shit mu
best round was vs the pummeler pseudo-infect list, rly interesting and tense mu 5/7 would play again
oh ye i was on a brewed up 5c panharmonic spice list I played monoblue aetherflux to a top8 and then went to get food because the mat was nissa and shit. Turns out people get salty AF when they get you to two life repeatedly and then you survive with an aetherflux in play and gain 124/life to shoot them twice.
That mat is hot garbage, and the promos are too.
Why am I going to game day again
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Riciardo over rosberg
The sky f1 script is real
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FWIW Korea looks like they are primed to dominate Overwatch as well, further cementing the idea that the country will just crush whatever game/genre they choose, it just comes down to whether or not they give a fuck(I mean MVP is still somehow a relative powerhouse in DotA2 when the country abandoned it awhile ago now). Lunatic Hai has beaten Rogue two out of 3 series they've played, and just beat Envy handily. Their depth is a bit questionable still but that's always how it starts, depth is weak until the game picks up some true steam which I've heard OW has in Korea(and Blizzard starting the official league probably only helps that right? Then again, SC2...)
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On October 24 2016 04:10 red_ wrote:
FWIW Korea looks like they are primed to dominate Overwatch as well, further cementing the idea that the country will just crush whatever game/genre they choose, it just comes down to whether or not they give a fuck(I mean MVP is still somehow a relative powerhouse in DotA2 when the country abandoned it awhile ago now). Lunatic Hai has beaten Rogue two out of 3 series they've played, and just beat Envy handily. Their depth is a bit questionable still but that's always how it starts, depth is weak until the game picks up some true steam which I've heard OW has in Korea(and Blizzard starting the official league probably only helps that right? Then again, SC2...)
SC2 arguably suffered from not actually being a very good game for much of it's lifespan :p
By the time they finally got it good it was pretty much dying as a major esport.
Also the rise of casual/social friendly team games can't really be ignored
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On October 24 2016 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 03:53 Cixah wrote:On October 24 2016 03:32 Dandel Ion wrote:game day spoilered because it's quite long + Show Spoiler +barely 2-3 just missing top8 by a game
inconsistent manabases are inconsistent
control always ez mu, tempo always shit mu
best round was vs the pummeler pseudo-infect list, rly interesting and tense mu 5/7 would play again
oh ye i was on a brewed up 5c panharmonic spice list I played monoblue aetherflux to a top8 and then went to get food because the mat was nissa and shit. Turns out people get salty AF when they get you to two life repeatedly and then you survive with an aetherflux in play and gain 124/life to shoot them twice. That mat is hot garbage, and the promos are too. Why am I going to game day again
Because it's about the only time people play standard around here unless you go and fetch 'em up. Liliana mat was decent tho.
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On October 24 2016 04:10 red_ wrote:
FWIW Korea looks like they are primed to dominate Overwatch as well, further cementing the idea that the country will just crush whatever game/genre they choose, it just comes down to whether or not they give a fuck(I mean MVP is still somehow a relative powerhouse in DotA2 when the country abandoned it awhile ago now). Lunatic Hai has beaten Rogue two out of 3 series they've played, and just beat Envy handily. Their depth is a bit questionable still but that's always how it starts, depth is weak until the game picks up some true steam which I've heard OW has in Korea(and Blizzard starting the official league probably only helps that right? Then again, SC2...)
The Rogue vs LH matchup is interesting. Don't think it's fair to say it was 2 out of 3 since APAC was more of an extended series play on the same day. Definitely felt more like 1-1. The most interesting aspect I think is looking at how Rogue played vs LH in the Grand finals vs how Envy played vs them. Rogue completely flustered and targeted LH dps players to the point where they were desperately switching heroes to things their players weren't even good at. Envy on the other hand felt like they were trying to play solitaire not caring who their opponent was which just allowed LH to play them game free of any pressure. Hell half that series Envy started with really bizarre lineups. Starting to believe the hype around the team is a bit smoke and mirrors here. Even their Eleague run was lackluster as they got gifted entry to the finals by the tournament organizers. It's a pity that Reunited had a roster change just before going to OGN and that NRG is being invited to events instead of a more top tier team.
Anyway KR is definitely a lot closer at the top than thought but as you said depth seems lacking. I'm honestly more scared of this Blizzard official league than anything else. If they copy LCS i'll be very disappointed and if they try their WCS stuff we know how that turns out. Hopefully something alright comes out of it but I'll be holding my breath until then.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RED BULL
HAHAHA
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On October 23 2016 15:32 TheYango wrote:
Basically the question is whether you think we've passed the point of no return where it's not possible for the west to catch up anymore. Regional isolation only serves to exacerbate regional disparities. If the gap is still not insurmountable, then having more international competition would help to close the gap. If you think it's impossible at this point, then international competition is pointless.
I dunno. SC2 went with a relatively more integrated system and people complained that the only thing that changed was that instead of native USA people getting stomped we had imported Koreans representing the USA getting stomped because the best Koreans didn't need to move to the US (at least, that's my understanding). I don't know if there is a solution, honestly. How does a country improve it's talent pool anyway, outside of throwing gobs of money until enough trainers and talent come in that they can actually get naturalized?
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EPT
