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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 14:33:45
May 07 2015 14:32 GMT
#98821
Yeah, I took a hiatus from arena after GvG launch. Was averaging 5-6 wins and that plummeted after the expansion for whatever reason. Planning on starting again after I buy my last wing.

Also, probably not about that linen life.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 07 2015 14:32 GMT
#98822
Thalnos: Most rogue variants, common Shaman tech card, Freeze Mage, possible Druid Tech card

Cheep: Too lazy to own linen as well. Not going to comment on it because iunno how good it actually feels.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 07 2015 14:37 GMT
#98823
Thalnos is rare tech card in shaman since GvG. A common tech card would be Kezan/Healbot.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 07 2015 14:38 GMT
#98824
Oh right I miss Thalnos too. Although for spell power purposes a kobold geo is just fine, can't replace Sylvanas/Alex/Rag that easily.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 14:42:29
May 07 2015 14:42 GMT
#98825
On May 07 2015 23:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 23:17 Numy wrote:
I'm holding onto golden archmage for that very reason. Not sure if I want to go craft thalnos and finish a freeze or just de it and finish up Baron for my wallet warrior.


Thalnos is an all around good card that you should probably have anyway


I only really play Warrior/Warlock so it's not like I'm missing out by not having it. I may craft it for a rogue/freeze deck but just holding out a bit until the dust settles on BRM. Baron/Ysera are pretty cool for warrior which is why I'm waiting.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 07 2015 14:51 GMT
#98826
Inb4 Patron Warrior wrecks you the first game you whip out your Geddon.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 14:59:15
May 07 2015 14:59 GMT
#98827
woop wrong thread
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 07 2015 15:00 GMT
#98828
People don't have all the cards yet? GOD.
Hey! How you doin'?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:05:55
May 07 2015 15:00 GMT
#98829
Control vs Patron is slightly control favoured. Geddon doesn't really lose you the game as if he has a full board of patrons that you can't clear with brawl you screwed anyway.

edit: except when the patron warrior goes all in with zero cards and no bloodrage but you don't draw any of your removal/taunts/brawl so he wins. Sigh sometimes just praying to RNGesus is how you win hearthstone. Not by playing smart.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 07 2015 15:08 GMT
#98830
Patron warrior usually has a field day with control. It does rely on some lucky draws but getting a 4-6 card bloodrage off means that you need to have brawl and all of your removal if you want to edge him out of his mid-game power spike. If both players have good draws I'd actually favor patron by a lot. 2 or 1 mana draw 5 with a full board is pretty stronk.
Hey! How you doin'?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:14:25
May 07 2015 15:12 GMT
#98831
The issue is Patron doesn't typically pressure in a matchup which gives control time to set up everything he needs and large armour totals. If Patron gets perfect draws with a good emp than yea I think he beats every class in the game atm. Maybe slightly unfavoured vs shaman still I'm not sure. That class is so weird
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 07 2015 15:15 GMT
#98832
Control vs Patron is definitely favored for control. Probably like 5.5-4.5 or 6-4
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 07 2015 15:16 GMT
#98833
The reddit poster of the patron warrior to rank 1 talked about his matchup vs control warrior and said that he did switch up to pressure early, so maybe he's more apt to talk about it than me. In general though I agree with you.
Hey! How you doin'?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
May 07 2015 15:37 GMT
#98834
That sounds about right. Early pressure to force early removals and keep Control from building up too much armor and drawing their removal out. Nonetheless, too much of Combo Warrior is within weapon range for Warrior, and armor gain makes comboing down control difficult, when you also need to survive large legendaries,
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 07 2015 15:50 GMT
#98835
OTGD please cheer me up
It's your boy Guzma!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
May 07 2015 15:56 GMT
#98836
req you are looking really sharp today. its so awesome how well your life has come together like every nerds dream with a nice computer oriented job and a beautiful asian fiance. i think lots of people are madly jealous of the success you have and you should appreciate the big picture of moving forward with continued success!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
May 07 2015 15:56 GMT
#98837
On May 08 2015 00:50 Requizen wrote:
OTGD please cheer me up

Can you watch youtube?
+ Show Spoiler +
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 15:58:06
May 07 2015 15:57 GMT
#98838
More on the topic of fashion..

I think I'm gonna get this coat http://suspensionpoint.ca/suspension-point-x-bless-hoodcoat-pre-order-black-loden-wool

So I can pull off sick anime goth ninja looks like

+ Show Spoiler +

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and

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TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 07 2015 16:15 GMT
#98839
Is that second picture serious?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 07 2015 16:26 GMT
#98840
Skullgirls is hard, I can just about pull off basic chains in training, but then i try and play vs the normal ai and never land a single hit T.T
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