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On March 26 2015 18:21 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 17:39 Numy wrote:On March 26 2015 16:42 wei2coolman wrote:On March 26 2015 15:15 Frolossus wrote:On March 26 2015 14:24 Scip wrote: I'm a gaymer =)
Yeah, I don't think skills translate that well between games. I'm so trash at FPS and fighting games that I just don't play them because I don't even see the point. competitive mindset and general mechanical skills apply pretty easily to most games i'm so terrible at fighting games. mostly because I haven't bothered to drill the mechanics of it. FPS is ez. See enemy, kill enemy. Wait until you play a real FPS like Q3. I was kinda competitive in Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory. Was a good game, very twitch based. @Fildun, what are you studying and where?  I'm at TU/e in Eindhoven myself.
Ah I loved Wolf:ET. Such an absolutely fantastic game. Kind of a pity FPS games are so meh compared to back then.
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Oh, that isn't more time than normal high school then? Would still double the time I spend on highschool though LOL
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On March 26 2015 18:42 Scip wrote: Oh, that isn't more time than normal high school then? Would still double the time I spend on highschool though LOL
40 hr a week is pretty normal to me too. It's what you get for picking STEM
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40 hours a week doesn't sound unreasonable, I think I should be able to adapt if it's something I at least remotely enjoy. Hopefully. Don't want to become a social reject just yet.
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Yeah but it isn't really high school anymore, they always say university is less hours more chilling but so far not really.
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On March 26 2015 18:50 Fildun wrote: Yeah but it isn't really high school anymore, they always say university is less hours more chilling but so far not really.
Most STEM people I know have echoed my feelings that the first year is intentionally made harder and more theoretical to weed out the inevitable dropouts.
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I mean, working 40 hours a week isn't at all unreasonable, so studying 40 hours a week or a bit more sounds fair enough. I'm just not sure I'm qualified to actually like, live.
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On March 26 2015 18:54 Scip wrote: I mean, working 40 hours a week isn't at all unreasonable, so studying 40 hours a week or a bit more sounds fair enough. I'm just not sure I'm qualified to actually like, live.
People get used to that kind of shit pretty damn quickly.
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On March 26 2015 18:54 Scip wrote: I mean, working 40 hours a week isn't at all unreasonable, so studying 40 hours a week or a bit more sounds fair enough. I'm just not sure I'm qualified to actually like, live.
A desk job has a lot of downtime where you just arbing around not really working. Same with high school. Uni lectures tend to be 45 minute long cram sessions. Only breaks you get are when you walking to your next venue if you have a busy schedule. It's rather different to schooling.
Anyway first year is definitely a bit more challenging largely due to it being quite a leap from what you used to and them making it a bit harder to weed out people. After that you tend to get used to the schedule. Occasionally you'll have all nighters to pull every few weeks to finish up stuff but aside from that there's a fair amount of chilling to be done.
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Alright, if there's something I can do it's all nighters. I feel safe now.
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That's basically how all my friends graduated. You do work but not crazy amounts during the week then come project deadline you pull a few all nighters and finish it up. It only gets bad on final year where we had design project(It was 2 month thing) so they'd have to pull a week of all nighters to put it all together. Man that place reeked for that week.
You can try do the whole work 24/7 every week but honestly that'll just burn you out. Better to ramp up workload as you go than go hard all the time. A little R&R goes a long way to helping efficiency. The only person I know that went crazy hard all the time was this married girl but she would just take all out work then make her own based on ours so idk if that really counts as going hard. Her husband must have been some kind of saint to put up with her lol.
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On March 26 2015 19:02 Numy wrote:Anyway first year is definitely a bit more challenging largely due to it being quite a leap from what you used to and them making it a bit harder to weed out people. After that you tend to get used to the schedule. Occasionally you'll have all nighters to pull every few weeks to finish up stuff but aside from that there's a fair amount of chilling to be done.
Conversely, by 3rd/4th year you can look back at 1st/2nd and wonder how you ever found that stuff anything more than completely trivial.
Also city people are weak with 40hrs a week. Planting season is easy 80, 90 weather-permitting.
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Yeah, but everyone knows that farmers are fucking superhumans that us city rats can just barely manage to properly exploit you can't compare that shit lol
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I found with my degree first year was a lot of abstract theory stuff where as later on it was real application of principles so it was easier to wrap your head around even if the work itself was a lot harder purely because now I was doing work that was actually applicable in a way I could understand. I don't know if this makes sense for non-Engineering degrees.
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Yeah, right now it's just "Ok, ok, I'm learning all this theory, now how the fuck do I actually use this?"
Edit: And the demotion train continues.
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That's why I didn't go the "standard" route, as in, for a master's degree equivalent (engineering degree, so typically preparatory classes (sometimes integrated to the degree's cursus) for 2 years then the actual master's degree/engineering classes for 3 years). I probably would have had the theorical level, but I knew it'd be a lot of work and I'm a lazy bum so I decided to do a technical degree for 2 years (you can find work with it too) then get into the engineering school with that for the degree's 3 years.
3rd year (out of 5, so degree's 1st year) had split courses, technical stuff for people from preparatory cycle and more science-y stuff for us technicals. Stuff like electronics and sensors I can get, more or less, there are cases and applications where we'll use it. But fucking organic chemistry in a computer science engineering degree? I never used that again, we didn't get too deep because it was only a semester, what was the point of wasting our time with that?
Maths and stuff like graph theory definitely became better once I was able to grasp which technical applications they had (stochastic and Markov chains were cool from the start though), even compilation classes were intellectually interesting after awhile.
On my resume and during interviews I could also easily describe my path as having heard of computer science the year I graduated high school, so I chose the technical (and less prestigious) path so I'd immediatly get a look into actual stuff, learn if I like it or not and decide if I want to keep going to the engineering degree (my initial goal anyway) or switch paths, with the fact that the technical degree would still let me work if it didn't pan out serve as a safety net. It was usually well-received as a sound reasoning and a guy who thought things through, made for good first impressions from the start.
It was still me being lazy at the bottom, though.
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On March 26 2015 19:27 Scip wrote: Yeah, but everyone knows that farmers are fucking superhumans that us city rats can just barely manage to properly exploit you can't compare that shit lol
<3
...wait a minute...
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I actually never cared about the practical level of any knowledge. I don't see why it should matter whether I can put my understanding of something to any use. I simply want to know.
But then again one probably has to have this disinterest in practical matters to go into academic philosophy.
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On March 26 2015 18:54 Scip wrote: I mean, working 40 hours a week isn't at all unreasonable, so studying 40 hours a week or a bit more sounds fair enough. I'm just not sure I'm qualified to actually like, live. Most un-euro thing you've said so far? People here always whine about their EU counterparts hours being a lot less.
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On March 26 2015 20:34 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 18:54 Scip wrote: I mean, working 40 hours a week isn't at all unreasonable, so studying 40 hours a week or a bit more sounds fair enough. I'm just not sure I'm qualified to actually like, live. Most un-euro thing you've said so far? People here always whine about their EU counterparts hours being a lot less.
Eh, that's because older people tend to work less. Young guys who just graduated work 40 hours if they can find the job. As soon as people start getting kids the work hours get a lot lower.
Average work hours are pretty low though. I like that. The whole work to live, not live to work thing.
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