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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 20 2015 13:52 GMT
#91641
On March 20 2015 22:37 JonGalt wrote:
My brother came up to visit. We going snowboarding with some of my co-workers on Saturday, wooooooooooo!!

SUGARLOAF HYPE

ps That was pretty dece Soniv.

JonGalt!

Did you listen to To Pimp a Butterfly yet?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 14:10:11
March 20 2015 13:55 GMT
#91642
On March 20 2015 13:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
But I mean....how do you win?

There are several more legitimate ways of winning with TurboFog than just waiting for your opponent to rage quit. I'll cover a few that have been Standard legal and actually done decently.

One of the most successful styles of TurboFog was a deck called Owling Mine. The name is a pun based on the two key cards in the deck - Howling Mine and Ebony Owl Netsuke. As you can probably guess from reading these two cards, the entire premise of the deck is to have your opponent have lots of cards in their hand and then have each copy of Ebony Owl Netsuke you have in play then deal 4 damage to their face. The rest of the deck is card draw to find your kill conditions, and stuff that slows your opponent down. Note that some of these cards such as Evacuation fulfil a dual role in both slowing your opponent down as well as setting up the Owl kill. It's because this deck pro-actively tries to actually kill your opponent that it's probably also the only one that's actually done decently at the competitive level. (Well, that and at the time the power level of Standard was very different to what it is now. Still!)

The more "traditional" flavours of TurboFog however rely on milling or decking your opponent out. Recent examples include this deck where you just sit around not doing anything until your opponent runs our of cards. You'll notice the Elixir of Immortality which is present so you don't actually run out of cards first, especially when you're drawing so heavily in order to find your fogs and stuff. It also has the useful effect of putting all your fogs back into your deck so you can reuse them if you need to.

Of course if you prefer winning games in less than 40+ turns there are other TurboFog variants that have been used recently. This includes this deck which plays Stonehorn Dignitary and repeatedly bounces it to lock your opponent out of their combat phase. And eventually you find a power card like Entreat the Angels and just kill them. Or if you prefer your decks to have 100% more jank in them then you might find the this deck hilarious. The entire point of the deck is just to play fog cards until you assemble all the Guildgate cards and then use Maze's End to win.

To be clear though... these decks are generally very terrible and are only even remotely playable in Standard when there are enough Fog style cards that you can run a critical mass to stall a game out long enough that the rest of your deck can actually do something. And at this point you're mostly an inferior control deck. You only really play these decks because you're a Johnny type player.

On a side note, I do recommend you read up on all the material about player profiles like Timmy/Johnny/Spike and Melvin/Vorthos since it's pretty cool. Also, if you actually liked my post but said to yourself "If only a Designer at WotC tried to talk seriously about a deck archetype that is completely silly" then here's a freebie.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#91643
RIP Rich Gang

You were the best team in the OPL; the only reason to watch it
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 20 2015 14:08 GMT
#91644
Any suggestions for good action RPG's (can also be MMO's as long as it has good singleplayer) with good graphics?
I'm basically looking for games like Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning, but then actually good.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 14:16:00
March 20 2015 14:10 GMT
#91645
On March 20 2015 22:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:37 JonGalt wrote:
My brother came up to visit. We going snowboarding with some of my co-workers on Saturday, wooooooooooo!!

SUGARLOAF HYPE

ps That was pretty dece Soniv.

JonGalt!

Did you listen to To Pimp a Butterfly yet?


8 hours minimum a day since Monday.

C'mon dawg.

And it only gets better with each listen. I personally believe it to be better than GKMC and Section 80. Kendrick has gotten progressively better with each mixtape and album from Training Day to To Pimp a Butterfly. And the rumor is the next thing he gonna work on is a collab album with J Cole which would be hype as fuck. Watch the Throne on a million.

Oh yeah, for anyone who is a fan of kdot I HIGHLY suggest going back to listen to Training Day and Overly Dedicated, his two mixtapes before Section 80. They are very good and it's incredible to see how he has grown, but was still soooo good back in his younger days.

@owb, doctorbeat, soniv - favorite song?? Gotta say my tops are King Kunta, These Walls, u, Hood Politics, How Much a Dollar Cost, You Ain't Gotta Lie, i. Fuck. I actually just love every song on the album. Gun to my head though... Might have to go with How Much a Dollar Cost. Jiminy Cricket that's a tough choice though.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 20 2015 14:13 GMT
#91646
On March 20 2015 23:08 Fildun wrote:
Any suggestions for good action RPG's (can also be MMO's as long as it has good singleplayer) with good graphics?
I'm basically looking for games like Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning, but then actually good.

Since you said you don't mind MMOs, you might want to look into The Old Republic if you like SW.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 20 2015 14:17 GMT
#91647
On March 20 2015 23:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:08 Fildun wrote:
Any suggestions for good action RPG's (can also be MMO's as long as it has good singleplayer) with good graphics?
I'm basically looking for games like Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning, but then actually good.

Since you said you don't mind MMOs, you might want to look into The Old Republic if you like SW.

Yeah, I tried that one but it just got really boring after a while. I had pretty good gear for my level, but everything single ability didn't really do much. Just fighting one enemy took forever. But that's just my opinion.
I really liked LOTRO though.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 20 2015 14:20 GMT
#91648
On March 20 2015 23:13 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:08 Fildun wrote:
Any suggestions for good action RPG's (can also be MMO's as long as it has good singleplayer) with good graphics?
I'm basically looking for games like Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning, but then actually good.

Since you said you don't mind MMOs, you might want to look into The Old Republic if you like SW.


I never hear bad things about the Witcher series, and I myself and am enjoying it. Knights of the Old Republic, but that doesn't go with your good graphics. Well they aren't bad, but they are certainly dated(ish). I have also heard really good things about Shadow of Mordor.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 20 2015 14:23 GMT
#91649
Yeah, maybe I should have listed things I already played, which is basically SWTOR, LOTRO, Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim, KoA:Reckoning, the Witcher and I think that's it.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 20 2015 14:24 GMT
#91650
Shadow of Mordor is great if you do all the side missions. If you just Zerg the story, it's boring as fuck.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
March 20 2015 14:27 GMT
#91651
Consider some weeb shit. Maybe FF Lighting Returns?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 20 2015 14:30 GMT
#91652
On March 20 2015 23:10 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:37 JonGalt wrote:
My brother came up to visit. We going snowboarding with some of my co-workers on Saturday, wooooooooooo!!

SUGARLOAF HYPE

ps That was pretty dece Soniv.

JonGalt!

Did you listen to To Pimp a Butterfly yet?


8 hours minimum a day since Monday.

C'mon dawg.

And it only gets better with each listen. I personally believe it to be better than GKMC and Section 80. Kendrick has gotten progressively better with each mixtape and album from Training Day to To Pimp a Butterfly. And the rumor is the next thing he gonna work on is a collab album with J Cole which would be hype as fuck. Watch the Throne on a million.

Oh yeah, for anyone who is a fan of kdot I HIGHLY suggest going back to listen to Training Day and Overly Dedicated, his two mixtapes before Section 80. They are very good and it's incredible to see how he has grown, but was still soooo good back in his younger days.

@owb, doctorbeat, soniv - favorite song?? Gotta say my tops are King Kunta, These Walls, u, Hood Politics, How Much a Dollar Cost, You Ain't Gotta Lie, i. Fuck. I actually just love every song on the album. Gun to my head though... Might have to go with How Much a Dollar Cost. Jiminy Cricket that's a tough choice though.


I actually haven't listened to it a ton - it's not my general kind of music for when I'm trying to get work done. King Kunta is prob one of my top choices though.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 20 2015 14:31 GMT
#91653
On March 20 2015 23:23 Fildun wrote:
Yeah, maybe I should have listed things I already played, which is basically SWTOR, LOTRO, Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim, KoA:Reckoning, the Witcher and I think that's it.


Sounds like you would enjoy the Fallout series. I liked New Vegas a lot.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 20 2015 14:36 GMT
#91654
On March 20 2015 23:23 Fildun wrote:
Yeah, maybe I should have listed things I already played, which is basically SWTOR, LOTRO, Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim, KoA:Reckoning, the Witcher and I think that's it.


Try Mass Effect if Sci Fi isn't a problem.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 20 2015 14:40 GMT
#91655
How can one be bad at listening to music, Asmo?

I heard bad things about The Witcher's writing, especially the quests that are shoehorned to put you into some pants with no regard for cohesiveness.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 14:44:51
March 20 2015 14:41 GMT
#91656
gothic 1 and 2 and the older thiefs (maybe not 1 tho, that's pretty old I'm not sure your yung heart could handle it)

if gothic is too ugly or too german, risen is an alternative

€: you can also look at tes morrowind. or, god forbid, even oblivion. should be fine if you enjoyed skyrim
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 20 2015 14:49 GMT
#91657
On March 20 2015 23:40 Alaric wrote:
How can one be bad at listening to music, Asmo?

I heard bad things about The Witcher's writing, especially the quests that are shoehorned to put you into some pants with no regard for cohesiveness.

He probably means he's bad about exposing himself to or seeking out new music.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 20 2015 14:49 GMT
#91658
On March 20 2015 23:36 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:23 Fildun wrote:
Yeah, maybe I should have listed things I already played, which is basically SWTOR, LOTRO, Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim, KoA:Reckoning, the Witcher and I think that's it.


Try Mass Effect if Sci Fi isn't a problem.


Oh yeah. Mass Effect. Do that one.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 20 2015 14:52 GMT
#91659
On March 20 2015 23:49 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 23:40 Alaric wrote:
How can one be bad at listening to music, Asmo?

I heard bad things about The Witcher's writing, especially the quests that are shoehorned to put you into some pants with no regard for cohesiveness.

He probably means he's bad about exposing himself to or seeking out new music.


That but also listening to it at all because I'm an obsessive podcast listener that needs to finish backlogs.

I'm ALMOST done with the Nerdist backlog.

THINK about that (if you know what I'm talking about).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 20 2015 14:53 GMT
#91660
Time to finish up Job listing to post today! Regular updates!
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