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5 added the TBS-style liberation missions. Those were really annoying, but ultimately 5 fixed enough of 4's problems for it to be a better game overall. Arguably the fact that 4 was a super-short game that you're basically forced to New Game+ TWICE to get the same amount of content as most of the other games in the series is a bigger strike against it than 5's liberation missions, to say nothing about a lot of the gameplay overhauls from 3->4 that weren't well thought out and didn't get smoothed out till 5/6.
My overall ranking would be 3>2>6>1/5>4, my suggested play order would be 2>3>6>1>5>4 (with anything other than 2, 3, or 6 not really being must-play IMO).
I could see the argument for 1 being necessarily the place to start as a series intro for the story, but the gameplay enhancements in 2 just seem like too big a deal to me. Maybe someone who hasn't played any of them at all and wouldn't get hung up on the poorer UI and laggy controls if they haven't seen better later in the series, but I think those are things that are going to be important for any game.
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On November 01 2014 09:24 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm on TS what are you guys playing?
edit: nvm, sounds like LoL
Emu, you don't play league? You're fairly new to the off topic thread aren't you. (Not saying that's a bad thing, you just recently quit league or do you just love our personalities)
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Eh, I'm one of the players who is willing to look past a lot of faults if a story or other parts of a game are good. I don't really tend to necessarily look in depth and analyze each game I play either---I mean I guess it's possible if I played MMBN1 now thinking about what you said I'd enjoy it less, but why is that a good thing?
Agree from a gameplay perspective to follow Yanger's list, but it's not just about gameplay.
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I mean, even from the other elements, 4 and 5 are weak games. 4's story is super short and half-baked and again, the game forces you to New Game+ twice to get the "full" story, which is a poor way to present a story. 5 is sort of a continuation of 4 and while it's longer and more thought out, it inherits a lot of the poor plot pieces from 4 (the whole "Dark Chips" subplot in both games is just retarded).
Also, you mentioned the music before--1, 2, 3, and 6 all have the same composer and have great soundtracks while Capcom switched composers for 4 and 5, and both games are worse for it.
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On November 01 2014 10:01 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:24 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm on TS what are you guys playing?
edit: nvm, sounds like LoL Emu, you don't play league? You're fairly new to the off topic thread aren't you. (Not saying that's a bad thing, you just recently quit league or do you just love our personalities)
Pretty sure he just meant to disregard his question as he figured out it's LoL.
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On November 01 2014 10:06 TheYango wrote:
I mean, even from the other elements, 4 and 5 are weak games. 4's story is super short and half-baked and again, the game forces you to New Game+ twice to get the "full" story, which is a poor way to present a story. 5 is sort of a continuation of 4 and while it's longer and more thought out, it inherits a lot of the poor plot pieces from 4 (the whole "Dark Chips" subplot in both games is just retarded).
Also, you mentioned the music before--1, 2, 3, and 6 all have the same composer and have great soundtracks while Capcom switched composers for 4 and 5, and both games are worse for it.
I really hated the Boktai tie-ins.
REALLY hated them.
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Ahh ok. Thanks ketchup. Id like to think he saw our thread and stayed for the awese conversation we are always having. And for your good looks of course.
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On November 01 2014 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
I mean I guess it's possible if I played MMBN1 now thinking about what you said I'd enjoy it less, but why is that a good thing?
I'm not asking you to ruin your nostalgia, but from the perspective of someone who's never played the series, I think it's completely possible for 1's gameplay flaws to turn them off to the series when many of them were fixed over the next 2 iterations.
I enjoyed 1 a lot when I played it through the first time as well--it just hasn't aged that well, and in the interest of best trying to introduce someone to the series, I'd at least be a little hesitant about suggesting it as someone's first entry into the series when they don't even know for sure if they like the gameplay yet.
On November 01 2014 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 10:06 TheYango wrote:
I mean, even from the other elements, 4 and 5 are weak games. 4's story is super short and half-baked and again, the game forces you to New Game+ twice to get the "full" story, which is a poor way to present a story. 5 is sort of a continuation of 4 and while it's longer and more thought out, it inherits a lot of the poor plot pieces from 4 (the whole "Dark Chips" subplot in both games is just retarded).
Also, you mentioned the music before--1, 2, 3, and 6 all have the same composer and have great soundtracks while Capcom switched composers for 4 and 5, and both games are worse for it. I really hated the Boktai tie-ins. REALLY hated them.
lol I forgot about this
Capcom really tried to milk that super hard for whatever reason. I think 6 was actually slated to have them as well, but they got cut in the NA release because of how unpopular they were in 5.
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Found the one I have, and it is 6, so I know what I'm doing now, although I also should probably read the 4 books I bought months ago....
I got the first two books in the Kingkiller Chronicles and the First Law Series, books 1-3. I read the first book in King Killer, but haven't even started The Wise Man's Fears.
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Emu reads a bunch of here, he just acts like a JonGalt who actually has a stable connection and catches up and posts from time to time. He plays a bit of League but mostly DotA.
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Ben playing that roaming Pudgu, dis gun be gud.
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On November 01 2014 10:30 Alaric wrote:
Emu reads a bunch of here, he just acts like a JonGalt who actually has a stable connection and catches up and posts from time to time. He plays a bit of League but mostly DotA.
His first post in the thread was november 13th, 2013. 3 months after shelke's first post/the thread was made
Just tl+ things
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Considering this thread was made in August. I started pretty early
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On November 01 2014 10:01 Shelke14 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:24 TheEmulator wrote:
I'm on TS what are you guys playing?
edit: nvm, sounds like LoL Emu, you don't play league? You're fairly new to the off topic thread aren't you. (Not saying that's a bad thing, you just recently quit league or do you just love our personalities)
I do play LoL. I played in the inhouses last weekend 
I just meant I figured out what they were playing, not that I disliked what they were playing.
Also Alaric is right. I read pretty much every post here, but sometimes I get behind so I don't post much while catching up on the thread.
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Why the fuck am I getting 1Mb/s right now?
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Geez, friggin 100+ trick or treaters at my house already. It's like 0C outside as well, so every time we open the door my office gets cold
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On November 01 2014 10:56 TheEmulator wrote:Geez, friggin 100+ trick or treaters at my house already. It's like 0C outside as well, so every time we open the door my office gets cold
I've gotten 0. All the candy for me, holla!
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It's ok we usually buy way too much candy and we still have it for the next month
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I never get trick-or-treaters.
Sad day.
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On November 01 2014 11:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I never get trick-or-treaters.
Sad day.
You shouldn't know, you should be out partying with the ladies.
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