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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 30 2014 04:54 Parnage wrote: Dunno what you guys are still on about.. Dane Cook of posting, I mean after that it's just mic drop and walk off, you can't top that. Stop trying. This thread needs more love and peacekeeping. Who wants a hug?! Did someone say... LOVE AND PEACE? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
When anime goes full English like this, it always makes me cringe. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On July 30 2014 04:50 Gahlo wrote: It's clearly the second. It's the equivalent of people chilling out at a party and 1 guy decided he wants to get absolutely shitfaced before showing up and being a general nuisance. Even Ketchup's defense of you boils down to the equivalency of "He's cool when he's not hammered." Please do not twist up my words. That's not at all what my post was about. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:00 Gahlo wrote: When anime goes full English like this, it always makes me cringe. I'm more disappointed that he had a chance to link the Bosch and didn't. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:00 Gahlo wrote: When anime goes full English like this, it always makes me cringe. Are you shitting on trigun or just making a generalization? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 30 2014 04:54 mordek wrote: I think you're understanding of the system is limited to only that experience. The tests suck. I typed completely opposite in college from what I am after reading a few books. It can be limited by the test questions and also by other influences. You can answer questions dishonestly or answer it more of what you'd like to be. It merely provides a framework for understanding people. People are different but we all have tendencies. It doesn't limit people to just that one type, you use all 8 polarities all the time but you have defaults. You need to give it a fair shot and do some reading and introspection. If the tests suck and other influences come into play then how is it possible to get any sort of accurate tendency or default type? I'll give an example here. The E<--->I typing. I can say that some of the time I prefer to be on my own where it's quiet, playing video games and whatnot. I don't remember what the specific qualities listed to an introvert are, but safe to say that would type me as one, no? The problem is there are other times where the last thing I want to do is be in the house by myself, I'd rather be the center of attention, having fun in a large group setting. Sometimes I feel like I just have to get out and DO stuff. I can talk way too much and often can put my foot in my mouth. Those are considered extrovert qualities. The question then becomes, how can I type myself specifically as one of those? Do I simply look in which area I spend more time? Because either way then it doesn't feel like an accurate representation of my personality because it misses out on large parts of what makes me ME. You apparently have a better understanding of how MBTI is supposed to work so can you explain in greater detail? | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Not going to lie I thought that link would be this. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:02 Parnage wrote: I'm more disappointed that he had a chance to link the Bosch and didn't. I am ashamed. But the Japanese is pretty funny. I wish there was a Trigun remastered version. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Please M'Bear, Trigun (manga) > TTGL. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 30 2014 04:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Uh oh now we gotta add PX to the stream schedule too  Speaking of which, who is doing what tonight? Once again I don't want to interfere but if nothing else is happening I'll be streaming around my reg time. There is a stream schedule? | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote: If the tests suck and other influences come into play then how is it possible to get any sort of accurate tendency or default type? I'll give an example here. The E<--->I typing. I can say that some of the time I prefer to be on my own where it's quiet, playing video games and whatnot. I don't remember what the specific qualities listed to an introvert are, but safe to say that would type me as one, no? The problem is there are other times where the last thing I want to do is be in the house by myself, I'd rather be the center of attention, having fun in a large group setting. Sometimes I feel like I just have to get out and DO stuff. I can talk way too much and often can put my foot in my mouth. Those are considered extrovert qualities. The question then becomes, how can I type myself specifically as one of those? Do I simply look in which area I spend more time? Because either way then it doesn't feel like an accurate representation of my personality because it misses out on large parts of what makes me ME. You apparently have a better understanding of how MBTI is supposed to work so can you explain in greater detail? Like I said it's more about tendencies. I'm in introvert but as my friends can attest there are times I'm the biggest, loudest goofball in public and I'm ok with that. However, I spend a weekend with friends and by Sunday I'm ready to get out of there ASAP and recharge alone. It has more to do with whether your energy comes from within or from your external environment. Honestly people write whole books on it. I'd highly recommend it. It just makes understanding people and situations so much easier. It's not about labeling so much as it's a way to think about things to help you make better choices. If I can better stand you I can make any interactions between us way more positive and skip the misunderstandings when I assume you are just like me. http://www.amazon.com/Please-Understand-Me-Character-Temperament/dp/0960695400 one of the better ones I've read. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 30 2014 03:20 Scip wrote: Self-righteous much? As to why you're bad at getting your point across, it took you 3 posts to start explaining why you consider her an absolute embarassment, before that you just called her annoying/not entertaining, making you look stupid. I didn't actually realize it was going to turn into a full-fledged argument/discussion, so it took me a bit to back up my opinion. I didn't mean to come across as self-righteous, but you escalated the mood of the discussion to something more seemingly angry than I did. Was "absolute embarrassment" a bit of hyperbole? Sure, I could have kept it toned down a bit, but it's not far off from how I feel about it. On July 30 2014 03:22 Slayer91 wrote: Could you elaborate what you mean by trolling. Sure! At least, I can try to convey it from what I've come across. I'll preface it with the fact that I haven't watched nearly as much of her as I'm assuming you guys have - these are basically first impression things. I mean, I'll take it from the most obvious thing (which is prevalent here) - there is the camp of people who are "in on it" (the viewers that like her and enjoying the "trolling" nature of it) and the camp of people who don't get it and are effectively the "trollees". The community itself about the stream probably bothers me more than the content of her stream. It's all done to get a rise out of a segment of people. And I suppose that is also a mechanic of satire, but I find this to lean more towards trolling rather than pure satire. I know that during one of the few times I've watched, she did something really poorly, chat erupted, and she said something to the effect of "guys, I'm a serious girl gamer" etc etc. My RL friends also enjoy her stream and frequently post clips or quote her in skype chat, and they're all to the same effect - highly sarcastic comments meant to get a rise out of people (or to entertain people, for those that are her fans). Again, I see it more as blatant trolling than satire - I don't see it achieving anything, it's creating an idea of "oh whatever, I can have fun and do whatever I want as long as I can convince people (or myself) it's ok because I'm just doing it jokingly", which then reverberates and gets echoed and copied elsewhere in the community. If you mean "she is a satirist" then it's actually borderline fascist to argue against her right to be one. Well that's a little extreme, I've never argued against her right to stream however she wants. When I said "I hate that it's a thing", I meant "I hate that there's enough support behind it for it to be popular" not "grr I wish I could shut this down because I disagree with it". if you mean she ruins games or whatever thats I mean its arguable but the fact that she is consistent is enough for me to think its okay. I haven't watched enough to actually know if/how she ruins games and the consistency behind it. As a general rule, I dislike people that dick around in ranked games just for fun because ranked should be tryhard (that's kinda the point, isn't it?). Gonna address a few other points you made in a longer post without quoting cuz I'm lazy: @why the hyperbole didn't apply - I said scip was being defensive because he escalated the tone of the argument, not because he simply disagreed with me. I quoted and bolded it before, so you know what I was addressing. Judging from later comments you've made with Req, you didn't see his comment as unusual, so it may have just gone unnoticed by you. Comparing my opinion of kaceytron's stream and the question of black rights seems a bit silly and over the top. @: What I mean is if everyone held sonivs opinion we could get twitch to bar kaceytrons stream, because everyone would agree that it is a bad thing for gaming. As I said above, I'm not advocating for a shut down of her stream, that would be dumb. I do wish that the gaming community was more mature, but that seems a bit of a pipe dream lol On July 30 2014 03:31 Shelke14 wrote: Who shit in your guy's cornflakes this morning. Holy fuck. Everyone take a step back and look at what you are arguing about. For fuck sakes. Peace and love only in this thread. On the contrary, I quite enjoy a good discussion/argument like this. While Teut can be abrasive and aggressive, he's thought provoking and I appreciate his questions and discussion. Progress is not gained from constant sunshine and rainbows. I really miss mafia because the arguments can be great. I was never necessarily very good at it, but I always enjoyed the critical thinking and debate. On July 30 2014 03:31 ComaDose wrote: i agree with scip and teut over soniv the world must be ending That's ok, I agree with them on some things that I know you don't. I won't fault you for it ;P | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:02 Numy wrote: Are you shitting on trigun or just making a generalization? I'm making a generalization, but nothing I've seen of trigun endeared me to it. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:08 Gahlo wrote: I'm making a generalization, but nothing I've seen of trigun endeared me to it. That's because you didn't read the manga. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
You're right, I don't read manga. It never clicks with me. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On July 30 2014 04:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Personality screening/typing bothers me. I don't think it's inherently possible to group people into specific categories like MBTI unless you're willing to ignore a lot of the dualities in people's personalities. People will also often change tracks/attitudes depending on their situations/feelings. I had to do one for a class of mine last year and I didn't feel it accurately portrayed my personality at all. Now I kind of want to try and dig it up so I can elaborate and see if people would agree but I have no idea where it is. i think its really funny these tests came up again because it had started a terrible argument in the past as well. but generally i agree with you wave. On July 30 2014 05:08 jcarlsoniv wrote: That's ok, I agree with them on some things that I know you don't. I won't fault you for it ;P peace and love | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
How can you make such generalizations! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 30 2014 05:08 Parnage wrote: Nya see we's gotta nice little stream racket goin on and it'd be best you remember it less something bad might happens to your internet tubes.. I immediately read this in the voice in which it was supposed to be read. Sufficiency there is no actual stream schedule, I was half-joking because it was suggested that I 'have a monopoly' on OT stream viewers or something. (Though obviously not something I want to be true so if it si a problem for people we could set up a schedule. Oh let my opinion be known (though it shouldn't be surprising to anyone), but yeah Soniv I'm pretty in sync with you on your opinion. On July 30 2014 05:08 mordek wrote: Like I said it's more about tendencies. I'm in introvert but as my friends can attest there are times I'm the biggest, loudest goofball in public and I'm ok with that. However, I spend a weekend with friends and by Sunday I'm ready to get out of there ASAP and recharge alone. It has more to do with whether your energy comes from within or from your external environment. Honestly people write whole books on it. I'd highly recommend it. It just makes understanding people and situations so much easier. It's not about labeling so much as it's a way to think about things to help you make better choices. If I can better stand you I can make any interactions between us way more positive and skip the misunderstandings when I assume you are just like me. http://www.amazon.com/Please-Understand-Me-Character-Temperament/dp/0960695400 one of the better ones I've read. This makes a great deal more sense to me---I think in general (as can be seen by the hundreds of inane personality surveys on FB---'Which deep-sea dwelling bacterium are YOU?') people do assume that these should be accurate descriptions of their personalities as a whole. As long as it's understood that they should be a tool rather than an all-encompassing typing then I can definitely see their worth and use. | ||
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