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On July 30 2014 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. jesus christ you're becoming a right wing stiff who thinks comedy is bad becaues you don't understand it but its offensive and making people think about doing bad things also "I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it" if i make a statement like "black people should never have gotten equal rights" and someone argues against should I accuse them of being defensive?? you're arguing that someone you personally don't get and don't like is bad, based on some vague notions of "trolling". she plays just as bad every game so its not like she's ruining games at bronze 5. Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:14 Requizen wrote:
It really doesn't surprise me that Scip and Slayer are the ones defending someone for being an annoying troll. it really doesn't surprise me that you are making snidey comments but have nothing constructive to add to the argument at alll
There's never any point to commenting on any conversation you have. Anyone who disagrees with you is a touchy american who just doesn't understand your special brand of humor (i.e., being an asshole on the internet and getting away with it hohoho how funny). You're like the quintessential internet troll, as soon as someone points out that you're being a prick you just laugh and tell them they're just too sensitive and can't take a joke because you're just the height of comedic performance by being rude as possible and unapologetic about it.
Congratulations, you're the TLLOLOTGDT version of Dane Cook.
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On July 30 2014 03:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 02:55 Scip wrote:On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. On July 30 2014 02:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
kaceytron is brilliant at getting viewers, but an absolute embarrassment to gaming - I can't stand that her stream is a thing On July 30 2014 02:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I don't give a shit if it's satire, she's annoying as fuck. I understand that there are plenty of tit streamers, and I dislike them all as well. Just because it's satire doesn't make it good. On July 30 2014 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:32 Scip wrote:No, he resents the fact that she is even popular at all soniv probably thinks that everyone who watches hells kitchen is human trash for enjoying watching ramsay yell at people On July 30 2014 02:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
kaceytron is brilliant at getting viewers, but an absolute embarrassment to gaming - I can't stand that her stream is a thing It's not that I resent her, I just don't get it - I don't find her funny or entertaining at all. Evidently she has a fan base, but I don't watch it because I find 0 entertainment in it. If your issue with her is that she perpetuates trolling and that is bad for the community then you are really fucking bad at getting your point across ? All of my points still stand. It bothers me that her stream is as popular as it is. She does bug me (in the sense that her stream bugs me - I obviously have no idea what she's like as a person). I don't find her entertaining. My opinion was disagreed with, so I elaborated why I think it's embarrassing to the gaming community. I'm not sure what you're expecting of me.
Could you elaborate what you mean by trolling.
If you mean "she is a satirist" then it's actually borderline fascist to argue against her right to be one.
if you mean she ruins games or whatever thats I mean its arguable but the fact that she is consistent is enough for me to think its okay.
On July 30 2014 03:22 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. jesus christ you're becoming a right wing stiff who thinks comedy is bad becaues you don't understand it but its offensive and making people think about doing bad things also "I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it" if i make a statement like "black people should never have gotten equal rights" and someone argues against should I accuse them of being defensive?? you're arguing that someone you personally don't get and don't like is bad, based on some vague notions of "trolling". she plays just as bad every game so its not like she's ruining games at bronze 5. On July 30 2014 03:14 Requizen wrote:
It really doesn't surprise me that Scip and Slayer are the ones defending someone for being an annoying troll. it really doesn't surprise me that you are making snidey comments but have nothing constructive to add to the argument at alll There's never any point to commenting on any conversation you have. Anyone who disagrees with you is a touchy american who just doesn't understand your special brand of humor (i.e., being an asshole on the internet and getting away with it hohoho how funny). You're like the quintessential internet troll, as soon as someone points out that you're being a prick you just laugh and tell them they're just too sensitive and can't take a joke because you're just the height of comedic performance by being rude as possible and unapologetic about it. Congratulations, you're the TLLOLOTGDT version of Dane Cook.
being a prick is an objective thing so I don't see why I should be apologetic about it. I've had a good argument with jimmic and he somewhat convinced me on the matter of being polite or whatever.
The most resounding thing i get from nearly everyone here whenever I argue is "There's no point arguing with you"
to me it just says "I can't win the argument so i'll get go ad hominem haha euro trash"
I mean there's nothing wrong with that but it seems you guys get angry at my attitude instead of finding fault with my arguments while still disagreeing.
I set up my posts hastily tend to play devil's advokate. I don't always agree completely with the things I put forward but I hope to come out with a more refined version of what I post by the end.
Instead everyone just gets mad and says nothing constructive at all.
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On July 30 2014 03:22 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:55 Scip wrote:On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. On July 30 2014 02:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
kaceytron is brilliant at getting viewers, but an absolute embarrassment to gaming - I can't stand that her stream is a thing On July 30 2014 02:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I don't give a shit if it's satire, she's annoying as fuck. I understand that there are plenty of tit streamers, and I dislike them all as well. Just because it's satire doesn't make it good. On July 30 2014 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:32 Scip wrote:No, he resents the fact that she is even popular at all soniv probably thinks that everyone who watches hells kitchen is human trash for enjoying watching ramsay yell at people On July 30 2014 02:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
kaceytron is brilliant at getting viewers, but an absolute embarrassment to gaming - I can't stand that her stream is a thing It's not that I resent her, I just don't get it - I don't find her funny or entertaining at all. Evidently she has a fan base, but I don't watch it because I find 0 entertainment in it. If your issue with her is that she perpetuates trolling and that is bad for the community then you are really fucking bad at getting your point across ? All of my points still stand. It bothers me that her stream is as popular as it is. She does bug me (in the sense that her stream bugs me - I obviously have no idea what she's like as a person). I don't find her entertaining. My opinion was disagreed with, so I elaborated why I think it's embarrassing to the gaming community. I'm not sure what you're expecting of me. Could you elaborate what you mean by trolling. If you mean "she is a satirist" then it's actually borderline fascist to argue against her right to be one. if you mean she ruins games or whatever thats I mean its arguable but the fact that she is consistent is enough for me to think its okay. Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:22 Requizen wrote:On July 30 2014 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. jesus christ you're becoming a right wing stiff who thinks comedy is bad becaues you don't understand it but its offensive and making people think about doing bad things also "I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it" if i make a statement like "black people should never have gotten equal rights" and someone argues against should I accuse them of being defensive?? you're arguing that someone you personally don't get and don't like is bad, based on some vague notions of "trolling". she plays just as bad every game so its not like she's ruining games at bronze 5. On July 30 2014 03:14 Requizen wrote:
It really doesn't surprise me that Scip and Slayer are the ones defending someone for being an annoying troll. it really doesn't surprise me that you are making snidey comments but have nothing constructive to add to the argument at alll There's never any point to commenting on any conversation you have. Anyone who disagrees with you is a touchy american who just doesn't understand your special brand of humor (i.e., being an asshole on the internet and getting away with it hohoho how funny). You're like the quintessential internet troll, as soon as someone points out that you're being a prick you just laugh and tell them they're just too sensitive and can't take a joke because you're just the height of comedic performance by being rude as possible and unapologetic about it. Congratulations, you're the TLLOLOTGDT version of Dane Cook. being a prick is an objective thing so I don't see why I should be apologetic about it. I've had a good argument with jimmic and he somewhat convinced me on the matter of being polite or whatever. The most resounding thing i get from nearly everyone here whenever I argue is "There's no point arguing with you" to me it just says "I can't win the argument so i'll get go ad hominem haha euro trash"
This is really funny considering a lot of your arguments boil down to "I don't understand what boundaries or politeness levels are are so i'll get go ad hominem american pansies".
You're right. There is no arguing with you. That's why I haven't done it in a while, I just report and move on like I do with any other troll on TL.
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On July 30 2014 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. jesus christ you're becoming a right wing stiff who thinks comedy is bad becaues you don't understand it but its offensive and making people think about doing bad things
I'm trying hard to keep this to a somewhat constructive discussion, and you know this statement is wildly untrue. You've twisted my opinion of this situation to something completely unrelated.
also "I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it"
if i make a statement like "black people should never have gotten equal rights" and someone argues against should I accuse them of being defensive??
Your hyperbole conveys nothing here, Scip was lashing out at me:
On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ.
you're arguing that someone you personally don't get and don't like is bad, based on some vague notions of "trolling".
she plays just as bad every game so its not like she's ruining games at bronze 5.
I'm not even talking about how she plays, it's her attitude during the stream. It's all sarcastic and satirical (which I've admitted), but it's not entertaining - it's just trolley to the stream and viewers, etc.
I see there have been more posts by the time I've finished this one, and I want to be able to address them and continue the discussion, but I can't spend the entire day staring at TL and typing up long responses - I has work I have to do.
edit: holy christ that formatting
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Who shit in your guy's cornflakes this morning. Holy fuck. Everyone take a step back and look at what you are arguing about. For fuck sakes. Peace and love only in this thread.
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i agree with scip and teut over soniv the world must be ending
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of course you do, soniv is wrong
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On July 30 2014 03:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
of course you do, soniv is wrong
yeah, but one only of the three actually tries to have a point to his argument. and its the wrong one.
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On July 30 2014 03:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
of course you do, soniv's opinion is wrong
Interesting.
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Calling someone absolute embarassment is not an opinion, it's a claim.
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On July 30 2014 03:43 Scip wrote:
Calling someone absolute embarassment is not an opinion, it's a claim.
It is an opinion because there's no way to substantiate it with fact. You can't prove someone is embarrassing.
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Hyperbole has never before been used in this thread ever.
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Kacytron is an just making money off horny net nerds. Did we all not agree on this? I personally find her voice, toxicity, and over willingness to pander to twitch chat to be widely annoying.
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Ok people, opinions and penis' please. The opinions are different, but no one will change so drop it, its pointless
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On July 30 2014 03:29 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:14 Slayer91 wrote:On July 30 2014 02:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it. And it's entirely possible I'm missing something - I've tried several times to watch and understand, but I get annoyed by it quickly and can't watch anymore. But it's an embarrassment to gaming because it perpetuates trolling in the community. You're lauding her for being a master troll - but that's stupid in my mind, I don't think trolling is something that should be celebrated like that. And I'm not defending the people that she is making fun of (the tit streamers) because that's not a good part of the community either. It's obviously a difference in tastes, I'm just voicing my opinion about it. jesus christ you're becoming a right wing stiff who thinks comedy is bad becaues you don't understand it but its offensive and making people think about doing bad things I'm trying hard to keep this to a somewhat constructive discussion, and you know this statement is wildly untrue. You've twisted my opinion of this situation to something completely unrelated. Show nested quote +
also "I'm not quite sure why you're so defensive about it"
if i make a statement like "black people should never have gotten equal rights" and someone argues against should I accuse them of being defensive??
Your hyperbole conveys nothing here, Scip was lashing out at me: Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 02:37 Scip wrote:
Yeah, calling kaceytron an absolute embarassment to gaming is the best way to tell other people that you don't find her funny. Way to go soniv, gogo thrash all the streams you don't enjoy, fucking champ. Show nested quote +you're arguing that someone you personally don't get and don't like is bad, based on some vague notions of "trolling".
she plays just as bad every game so its not like she's ruining games at bronze 5.
I'm not even talking about how she plays, it's her attitude during the stream. It's all sarcastic and satirical (which I've admitted), but it's not entertaining - it's just trolley to the stream and viewers, etc. I see there have been more posts by the time I've finished this one, and I want to be able to address them and continue the discussion, but I can't spend the entire day staring at TL and typing up long responses - I has work I have to do. edit: holy christ that formatting
Throughout all your posts you've made one badly elaborated one point "It perpetuates troll culture" which sounds like some crackpot-feminist thing to come out with.
Every other point has been you saying you'd don't like the stream personally which doesn't back up your other claims of her stream being bad or bad for gaming or otherwise bad on some non personal level.
Stephen Colbert is sarcastic and satirical, its just the context and laughtrack isn't there and it's and she's not at that level that it's obvious.
also, I don't understand why my "hyperbole" doesn't apply. Accusing someone of being defensive for disagreeing with you is preposterous.
On July 30 2014 03:46 Cixah wrote:
Kacytron is an just making money off horny net nerds. Did we all not agree on this? I personally find her voice, toxicity, and over willingness to pander to twitch chat to be widely annoying.
There are a lot of people making money off horny net nerds, she makes money off horny net nerds AND people laughing at the horny net nerds. The toxicity and willingness to pander to twitch chat is funny if you've ever tuned into any random girl stream near the top of twitch chat for 5 minutes. They do cosplays, thank people for subscrbing constantly, and interact with chat and complain when they critcize their terrible play.
On July 30 2014 03:45 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 03:43 Scip wrote:
Calling someone absolute embarassment is not an opinion, it's a claim. It is an opinion because there's no way to substantiate it with fact. You can't prove someone is embarrassing.
It's a sort of both, it's an opinion because it's not a fact but at the same time the claim that women should have the right to vote is also an opinion.
What I mean is if everyone held sonivs opinion we could get twitch to bar kaceytrons stream, because everyone would agree that it is a bad thing for gaming.
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Plus side it's the long weekend coming up. Double plus side I'll actually be home. Triple plus side I'm going to get wasted at least one night. Quadruple plus side Jeff sucks
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On July 30 2014 03:52 Shelke14 wrote:
Plus side it's the long weekend coming up. Double plus side I'll actually be home. Triple plus side I'm going to get wasted at least one night. Quadruple plus side Jeff sucks
Oh man it is long weekend coming up. Oh hey I'm going to be home as well!
Can't comment on being wasted though. I've never been wasted once in my entire life. Is it a worthwhile experience? I can't see me getting wasted in the near future so I'm going to ask about it.
I never remember which one of you is Jeff. Also I'm unsure why Jeff sucking is a good thing, but Shelke seems like a nice enough guy so I'm just going to agree with him on that one.
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It's really curious that people always try to step in and redirect arguments in here. These are fun, and actually quite interesting at times. I'm kinda amazed at how many people just jump in and try to dissuade people from continuing.
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On July 29 2014 11:27 Sufficiency wrote:
This Lunatics FE Awakening run turned out pretty badly. It turned out I can't let Federick carry me the first 4 chapters then just grind Bonus Teams.... because each actiom/kill from Bonus Team apparently only gains 1 exp.
Might need to rethink a strategy and take a bit more risks.
You can either use DLC, grind 1 exp at a time, use the Lunatic+ Bow Knight strategy, abd/or just play very carefully and slowly make your way through the game abusing RNG as you go.
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On July 30 2014 03:56 ketchup wrote:
It's really curious that people always try to step in and redirect arguments in here. These are fun, and actually quite interesting at times. I'm kinda amazed at how many people just jump in and try to dissuade people from continuing.
I mean, I do take enjoyment in reading these arguments as well, but some people here are getting really worked up about this. And I guess the way that me and some others see it is that, while yes some of us are enjoying this, I think some people are getting bent out of shape about the argument, so I think they'd be happier if they didn't continue on with the discussion you know?
Really I think it's more for their sake than ours, but I'm sure some other readers find this uncomfortable seeing so many nerves get strained in conversation.
Of course I can't speak for everyone but this is how I see things.
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