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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
May 31 2024 22:39 GMT
#141
On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless. Damn.

Yeah. SC2 looks like a very different game without Serral.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
May 31 2024 22:39 GMT
#142
Man, NA hopes going down already
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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
May 31 2024 22:39 GMT
#143
On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn.

Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
May 31 2024 22:41 GMT
#144
On June 01 2024 07:39 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn.

Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.

Serral is also always fishing for surrounds/flanks/good engagements, especially in protracted battles against blink stalkers. He'll always have a few lings or even a bit of roach sharking around and will never fully commit unless it's 100% necessary or he has a great arc/surround.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
May 31 2024 22:42 GMT
#145
On June 01 2024 07:39 Nakajin wrote:
Man, NA hopes going down already

MarsBar, we hardly knew you!
Ciaus237
Profile Joined July 2015
South Africa288 Posts
May 31 2024 22:43 GMT
#146
On June 01 2024 07:39 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn.

Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.


He also maintained a perfect army split for multiple back and forth minutes in both games, and every time the armies moved on the map he gained space / caught reinforcements / set up a pincer. No one else moves their units like that, and without it those games look a lot closer.
The time that we kill keeps us alive
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
May 31 2024 22:51 GMT
#147
On June 01 2024 07:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 07:35 onPHYRE wrote:
On June 01 2024 06:39 Argonauta wrote:
On June 01 2024 06:38 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Awww how did Stats lose 2-0 to Shin?

I really want Stats to regain his old form, and he looks so close to it sometimes, and then he doesn't.


Shin is top2 zerg in korea tho, i feel like we often underestimate how good he is


I think you could argue he is top 4 pretty easily, but to say he is consistently top 2 I don’t think has much merit.

He can finish top 4 in GSL on any given run if he is in form. He is definitely one of the best and most consistent Zergs in the world (even going out in the top 16 of GSL is better than all zergs on the planet can hope to achieve except maybe 6-7 players).

But I would not be able to make a logical argument that he is better than Rogue or Solar on a consistent basis. Definitely a higher tier than soO and DRG right now though.

Pretty sure you mean Dark and Solar.


I do not. I’m counting Dark as the clear number 1.

I’m referring to 2-4. I think a month ago Rogue was closer to soO and DRG than to Solar and SHIN. But the way he is progressing and based on his championship pedigree - you can clearly see from his games today he deserves to be in that discussion.



Livin' this life like it was written.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
May 31 2024 22:56 GMT
#148
On June 01 2024 07:51 onPHYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 07:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
On June 01 2024 07:35 onPHYRE wrote:
On June 01 2024 06:39 Argonauta wrote:
On June 01 2024 06:38 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Awww how did Stats lose 2-0 to Shin?

I really want Stats to regain his old form, and he looks so close to it sometimes, and then he doesn't.


Shin is top2 zerg in korea tho, i feel like we often underestimate how good he is


I think you could argue he is top 4 pretty easily, but to say he is consistently top 2 I don’t think has much merit.

He can finish top 4 in GSL on any given run if he is in form. He is definitely one of the best and most consistent Zergs in the world (even going out in the top 16 of GSL is better than all zergs on the planet can hope to achieve except maybe 6-7 players).

But I would not be able to make a logical argument that he is better than Rogue or Solar on a consistent basis. Definitely a higher tier than soO and DRG right now though.

Pretty sure you mean Dark and Solar.


I do not. I’m counting Dark as the clear number 1.

I’m referring to 2-4. I think a month ago Rogue was closer to soO and DRG than to Solar and SHIN. But the way he is progressing and based on his championship pedigree - you can clearly see from his games today he deserves to be in that discussion.




It's hard to say. If we look at the past 1-2 years in their totality, Solar is the clear #2, but he hasn't been playing well in 2024. soO and DRG often have surprisingly good results in GSL, but very few results outside of GSL. Then SHIN has never won anything but often makes good runs.

Rogue is clearly dangerous, but I'm also not sure if he's capable of stringing together a great run right now. With his big brain and base skill he can obviously beat good players though.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
May 31 2024 22:59 GMT
#149
Haha, a classical Dark game.
Mutation complete.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
May 31 2024 23:07 GMT
#150
On June 01 2024 07:59 Antithesis wrote:
Haha, a classical Dark game.

Yep, very exciting.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
May 31 2024 23:08 GMT
#151
Cure vZ is just uninspired, its so.... textbook, but without the bite of Clem, ByuN or even Bunny.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
May 31 2024 23:10 GMT
#152
Does Dark having a baby allow him to delay military service more?
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
May 31 2024 23:37 GMT
#153
Pre-patch just widow mines as splash wasn't enough against waves of Zerg in the late game, post patch just widow mines is certainly not enough.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
May 31 2024 23:38 GMT
#154
Dark is now seriously on a 13-0 win streak against Cure? That's obscene.
Mutation complete.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 01 2024 00:35 GMT
#155
Yay Scarlett!
Bunny out-NA NA with that scv pull
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2467 Posts
June 01 2024 00:46 GMT
#156
Looks like Zerg are doing alright in this tournament.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-01 00:51:28
June 01 2024 00:50 GMT
#157
On June 01 2024 09:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Looks like Zerg are doing alright in this tournament.

Balance has looked good, I think in most matches the person who "should" win has won. Upsets have also gone both ways (Stats beating Clem, Oliveira advancing in first, etc.) Beyond the map ppool things really haven't changed that much for Z since last patch.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 01 2024 00:55 GMT
#158
how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-01 00:57:07
June 01 2024 00:56 GMT
#159
On June 01 2024 09:55 Pandain wrote:
how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply

As we speak, Cure has 7 SCVs, but 168 army supply.
Mutation complete.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 01 2024 00:58 GMT
#160
On June 01 2024 09:56 Antithesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 09:55 Pandain wrote:
how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply

As we speak, Cure has 7 SCVs, but 168 army supply.


This is crazy. Cure should be so dead but if he somehow maxes out and has 50 army supply more than who knows
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