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On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless. Damn.
Yeah. SC2 looks like a very different game without Serral.
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Canada8991 Posts
Man, NA hopes going down already 
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On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn.
Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.
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On June 01 2024 07:39 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn. Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.
Serral is also always fishing for surrounds/flanks/good engagements, especially in protracted battles against blink stalkers. He'll always have a few lings or even a bit of roach sharking around and will never fully commit unless it's 100% necessary or he has a great arc/surround.
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On June 01 2024 07:39 Nakajin wrote:Man, NA hopes going down already
MarsBar, we hardly knew you!
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On June 01 2024 07:39 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2024 07:37 Nasigil1 wrote:
I've watched a lot of herO PvZ lately, during both games in this series in around 7-9 mins mark I was thinking that I've seen herO killing all those Zergs (Dark, Reynor, Solar, Rogue etc).with the same style he played here, constant pressure, greedy expansion and impeccable micro. And he did exactly that here, not even making his usual backdoor mistake. But still Serral just made seems completely hopeless and not even fair. Damn. Serral Just didnt succumb to Classic zerg greed and tried to defend Bad positions but Just calmly went for Units and let herO kill himself.
He also maintained a perfect army split for multiple back and forth minutes in both games, and every time the armies moved on the map he gained space / caught reinforcements / set up a pincer. No one else moves their units like that, and without it those games look a lot closer.
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On June 01 2024 07:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2024 07:35 onPHYRE wrote:On June 01 2024 06:39 Argonauta wrote:On June 01 2024 06:38 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Awww how did Stats lose 2-0 to Shin?
I really want Stats to regain his old form, and he looks so close to it sometimes, and then he doesn't. Shin is top2 zerg in korea tho, i feel like we often underestimate how good he is I think you could argue he is top 4 pretty easily, but to say he is consistently top 2 I don’t think has much merit. He can finish top 4 in GSL on any given run if he is in form. He is definitely one of the best and most consistent Zergs in the world (even going out in the top 16 of GSL is better than all zergs on the planet can hope to achieve except maybe 6-7 players). But I would not be able to make a logical argument that he is better than Rogue or Solar on a consistent basis. Definitely a higher tier than soO and DRG right now though. Pretty sure you mean Dark and Solar.
I do not. I’m counting Dark as the clear number 1.
I’m referring to 2-4. I think a month ago Rogue was closer to soO and DRG than to Solar and SHIN. But the way he is progressing and based on his championship pedigree - you can clearly see from his games today he deserves to be in that discussion.
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On June 01 2024 07:51 onPHYRE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2024 07:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote:On June 01 2024 07:35 onPHYRE wrote:On June 01 2024 06:39 Argonauta wrote:On June 01 2024 06:38 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Awww how did Stats lose 2-0 to Shin?
I really want Stats to regain his old form, and he looks so close to it sometimes, and then he doesn't. Shin is top2 zerg in korea tho, i feel like we often underestimate how good he is I think you could argue he is top 4 pretty easily, but to say he is consistently top 2 I don’t think has much merit. He can finish top 4 in GSL on any given run if he is in form. He is definitely one of the best and most consistent Zergs in the world (even going out in the top 16 of GSL is better than all zergs on the planet can hope to achieve except maybe 6-7 players). But I would not be able to make a logical argument that he is better than Rogue or Solar on a consistent basis. Definitely a higher tier than soO and DRG right now though. Pretty sure you mean Dark and Solar. I do not. I’m counting Dark as the clear number 1. I’m referring to 2-4. I think a month ago Rogue was closer to soO and DRG than to Solar and SHIN. But the way he is progressing and based on his championship pedigree - you can clearly see from his games today he deserves to be in that discussion.
It's hard to say. If we look at the past 1-2 years in their totality, Solar is the clear #2, but he hasn't been playing well in 2024. soO and DRG often have surprisingly good results in GSL, but very few results outside of GSL. Then SHIN has never won anything but often makes good runs.
Rogue is clearly dangerous, but I'm also not sure if he's capable of stringing together a great run right now. With his big brain and base skill he can obviously beat good players though.
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Haha, a classical Dark game.
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On June 01 2024 07:59 Antithesis wrote:
Haha, a classical Dark game.
Yep, very exciting.
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Cure vZ is just uninspired, its so.... textbook, but without the bite of Clem, ByuN or even Bunny.
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Does Dark having a baby allow him to delay military service more?
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Pre-patch just widow mines as splash wasn't enough against waves of Zerg in the late game, post patch just widow mines is certainly not enough.
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Dark is now seriously on a 13-0 win streak against Cure? That's obscene.
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Canada8991 Posts
Yay Scarlett!
Bunny out-NA NA with that scv pull
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Looks like Zerg are doing alright in this tournament.
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On June 01 2024 09:46 swarminfestor wrote:
Looks like Zerg are doing alright in this tournament.
Balance has looked good, I think in most matches the person who "should" win has won. Upsets have also gone both ways (Stats beating Clem, Oliveira advancing in first, etc.) Beyond the map ppool things really haven't changed that much for Z since last patch.
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how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply
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On June 01 2024 09:55 Pandain wrote:
how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply
As we speak, Cure has 7 SCVs, but 168 army supply.
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On June 01 2024 09:56 Antithesis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2024 09:55 Pandain wrote:
how is cure reynor still going on? I turned if off 10 minutes ago when Cure lost his 4th/5th and was down 80 supply As we speak, Cure has 7 SCVs, but 168 army supply.
This is crazy. Cure should be so dead but if he somehow maxes out and has 50 army supply more than who knows
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EPT
