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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
May 31 2024 16:28 GMT
#61
On June 01 2024 01:18 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:09 Nakajin wrote:
Is liquipedia down for everyone?

On June 01 2024 01:08 argonautdice wrote:
Omg liquipedia is down


well damn, if a tournament happens when liquidepia doesn't record it, did it really happen?



Imagine if all the liquipedia gets wiped out. GOAT race back to starting positions



Holy shit I just saw the screenshots in the other post. Gigas of data there
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 31 2024 16:31 GMT
#62
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 31 2024 16:32 GMT
#63
LP is back up, history is saved!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
May 31 2024 16:34 GMT
#64
Rogue is doing his thing again.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33471 Posts
May 31 2024 16:42 GMT
#65
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?


Serral and Maru

More seriously, I think Maru vs Cure lately is the more baffling match-up, cause Cure is an elite TvT player anyway you cut it, but he just seems to have the dumbest mental block vs Maru that makes him throw games.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
May 31 2024 16:46 GMT
#66
On June 01 2024 01:34 swarminfestor wrote:
Rogue is doing his thing again.


Solar can call it a career just like Mizenhaur said before.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1213 Posts
May 31 2024 16:49 GMT
#67
Rogue and Solar refusing to partake in such nonsense as even midgame ZvZ, haha.
Mutation complete.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 17:00:40
May 31 2024 16:54 GMT
#68
On June 01 2024 01:42 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?


Serral and Maru

More seriously, I think Maru vs Cure lately is the more baffling match-up, cause Cure is an elite TvT player anyway you cut it, but he just seems to have the dumbest mental block vs Maru that makes him throw games.


Maru vs Cure actually makes sense to me because I feel like Cure is just a straightforward TvT player, which Maru is always going to be better at, while other players like Gumiho/Byun will do more crazy things and therefore take some series from time to time.

Like Cure doesn't have any strengths over Maru, while Gumiho/Byun honestly do have some unique edges to their play that can lead them to a victory.

To be fair, I guess this exact logic applies to Ragnarok, because Ragnarok's unique traits (can cook up some goofy/off-brand stuff) does not apply to ZvT
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 16:58:08
May 31 2024 16:55 GMT
#69
Who is Shadown anyway? Never seen him playing before.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
May 31 2024 16:56 GMT
#70
On June 01 2024 01:54 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:42 Waxangel wrote:
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?


Serral and Maru

More seriously, I think Maru vs Cure lately is the more baffling match-up, cause Cure is an elite TvT player anyway you cut it, but he just seems to have the dumbest mental block vs Maru that makes him throw games.


Maru vs Cure actually makes sense to me because I feel like Cure is just a straightforward TvT player, which Maru is always going to be better at, while other players like Gumiho/Byun will do more crazy things and therefore take some series from time to time.

Like Cure doesn't have any strengths over Maru, while Gumiho/Byun honestly do have some unique edges to their play that can lead them to a victory.

Cure has the same problem against Serral: too straightforward, just not good enough to make it count.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7138 Posts
May 31 2024 16:56 GMT
#71
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?

Honestly i think it speaks a lot about the decay of SC2 scene. SHIN has obviously improved from the days he was extremely mid, but he doesnt really have any elite player qualities.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
May 31 2024 16:56 GMT
#72
Gumiho took down MarsBar
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
May 31 2024 17:00 GMT
#73
On June 01 2024 01:56 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?

Honestly i think it speaks a lot about the decay of SC2 scene. SHIN has obviously improved from the days he was extremely mid, but he doesnt really have any elite player qualities.

He just knocked Serral off the IEM last year, also has taken series from top players like Dark, Reynor and Clem before. Its literally Maru is his bane of existence, I think he would rather play Serral than Maru.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 17:02:04
May 31 2024 17:01 GMT
#74
On June 01 2024 01:55 swarminfestor wrote:
Who is Shadown anyway? Never seen him playing before.

I remember a player with that name from like 2016 or something.
On June 01 2024 01:56 Argonauta wrote:
Gumiho took down MarsBar

Upset of the tournament
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
531 Posts
May 31 2024 17:05 GMT
#75
On June 01 2024 02:00 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:56 Luolis wrote:
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?

Honestly i think it speaks a lot about the decay of SC2 scene. SHIN has obviously improved from the days he was extremely mid, but he doesnt really have any elite player qualities.

He just knocked Serral off the IEM last year, also has taken series from top players like Dark, Reynor and Clem before. Its literally Maru is his bane of existence, I think he would rather play Serral than Maru.

Shin can take huge leads and then play 0-0 roaches the next 40min in ZvT. In ZvZ he is quite wild, which makes hin dangerous on a good day.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
May 31 2024 17:08 GMT
#76
On June 01 2024 02:00 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2024 01:56 Luolis wrote:
On June 01 2024 01:31 Pandain wrote:
It's kind of crazy how much Maru dominates Ragnarok - especially since Ragnarok is an extremely legitimate player who regularly makes Ro8s, can make Ro4s, and made a GSL finals. Is there any other parallel in SC2 history to one very top player being absolutely smashed by another to this extent?

Honestly i think it speaks a lot about the decay of SC2 scene. SHIN has obviously improved from the days he was extremely mid, but he doesnt really have any elite player qualities.

He just knocked Serral off the IEM last year, also has taken series from top players like Dark, Reynor and Clem before. Its literally Maru is his bane of existence, I think he would rather play Serral than Maru.



Yeah he looked monstrous at last Katowice topping a group with Clem and Cure
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
May 31 2024 17:20 GMT
#77
Skillious is still a tough opponent for Rogue.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
May 31 2024 17:23 GMT
#78
Stats looks SO good
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
May 31 2024 17:24 GMT
#79
On June 01 2024 02:20 swarminfestor wrote:
Skillious is still a tough opponent for Rogue.

What stream is this on?
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7138 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-31 17:25:52
May 31 2024 17:24 GMT
#80
Carriers in PvT lategame are so good. Very well played by Stats. He is looking super strong rn.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
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