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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
June 02 2024 18:49 GMT
#601
It's been a while since I watched some sc2 and holy shit, this map seems so hard for z
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
June 02 2024 18:50 GMT
#602
new widowmines just don't cut it vs ling bane
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:53:02
June 02 2024 18:52 GMT
#603
On June 03 2024 03:49 stilt wrote:
It's been a while since I watched some sc2 and holy shit, this map seems so hard for z

Dynasty may be worse for Z ( there's an in base gold with an exposed mineral line that Terran can take but Z can't.)

I do wonder if Serral would veto differently against Maru though. If you expect the game to go long the gold becomes less impactful (and once it gets mined out it offers an attack path.) Oliveira on the other hand probably has some filthy marine push taking advantage of the gold.

Anyways having 1-2 maps in the pool that sucks for a race is fine, especially with 9 maps. Do wish vetos were veto veto veto veto in bo5 though
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 02 2024 18:53 GMT
#604
On June 03 2024 03:36 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:30 Penev wrote:
I have to say it's a bit disappointing that there are only 2 matches left already. It's such a better experience to have a full day of Starcraft with the quarters on the finals day. Unexpected as well after Katowice getting it right this year finally I thought that lesson was learned. Maybe there's some reason that it couldn't be helped in which case no hatin' but that doesn't change the sense of anti climax you get (or at least I do) when only having 3 matches.
Having long final days benefits more defensive players and factions,as after 2 series both players might be somewhat tired and shown most of their builds / strategies.
And then final series become "who will make fewer mistakes" compeition instead of "who will make more cool plays or prepare more cool strategies".
I know which one I personally prefer.

It's just one BO5 more for the players. Besides you really only get true preparation when there's a week between matches like in GSL, Which is great to watch, I agree with that.

(sry for double post, forgot to quote 1st time)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
June 02 2024 18:54 GMT
#605
This might become reminiscent of Kato'24 where Serral also played mainly ling/bane against Clem and reserved his other strategies for the grand final against Maru.
Mutation complete.
goldensail
Profile Joined May 2022
132 Posts
June 02 2024 18:55 GMT
#606
LOL Serral was taking widow mines shots left and right but it didn't matter.

When this game was invented, was this how the Zerg economy was designed to work?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
June 02 2024 18:55 GMT
#607
On June 03 2024 03:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks

GOAT Addendum Addendum incoming
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
June 02 2024 18:57 GMT
#608
LOL Serral was dragging widow mines shots left and right and it mattered a ton.

When this game was invented, was this how the Zerg micro was designed to work?
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:59:27
June 02 2024 18:58 GMT
#609
Well this game is pretty much over. Pretty funny that both players are probably going to lose on their own map picks.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
June 02 2024 19:01 GMT
#610
Excellent timing
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10129 Posts
June 02 2024 19:01 GMT
#611
we got a series! how did Serral didnt expect the push? i guess he didnt scout the 4th?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
June 02 2024 19:01 GMT
#612
Nice game from Oliveira but he almost threw the big advantage he’d earned away, I’m not sure he can get away with that again this series
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
June 02 2024 19:02 GMT
#613
On June 03 2024 04:01 WombaT wrote:
Nice game from Oliveira but he almost threw the big advantage he’d earned away, I’m not sure he can get away with that again this series

I think the pullback was likely because Oliveira's played Serral enough to know Serral likes to do ling backstabs. Turned out to be the right call probably, since he was able to deflect the runby.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 19:03:31
June 02 2024 19:02 GMT
#614
On June 03 2024 04:01 Topin wrote:
we got a series! how did Serral didnt expect the push? i guess he didnt scout the 4th?

What's totally weird to me is how Serral only lost due to pushing ultra/roach/ravager down a tiny ramp for literally no reason.

Oliveira miracle run 2 incoming?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 02 2024 19:09 GMT
#615
On June 03 2024 03:55 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks

GOAT Addendum Addendum incoming


Mizenhauer restarts the GOAT series after this tournament and keeps the same exact rankings
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
June 02 2024 19:10 GMT
#616
Serral so active with the scouting, 10/10 overseer micro
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 19:13:43
June 02 2024 19:11 GMT
#617
On June 03 2024 04:09 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:55 Die4Ever wrote:
On June 03 2024 03:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks

GOAT Addendum Addendum incoming


Mizenhauer restarts the GOAT series after this tournament and keeps the same exact rankings

How many more semis does Dark need to overtake Rain for #10?

I love how Oli is mixing a few Hellbats in with little marine groups
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
June 02 2024 19:14 GMT
#618
I like how Serral uses Nydus like it's a Brood War nydus.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
June 02 2024 19:18 GMT
#619
I feel like Oliveira is doing what Maru does, playing a defensive Terran style.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 02 2024 19:29 GMT
#620
Oli lost patience, that's a shame
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