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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:26:00
June 02 2024 18:25 GMT
#581
On June 03 2024 03:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 03 2024 03:19 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Who is Clem playing Connect 4 vs?

Not sure, never seen that guy

I am guessing this is sarcasm, but I am asking a genuine question.

I hope Reynor casts the finals.


It was a Prime backbencher I think.

Edit: Maru if it's not clear
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16103 Posts
June 02 2024 18:25 GMT
#582
On June 03 2024 03:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 03 2024 03:19 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Who is Clem playing Connect 4 vs?

Not sure, never seen that guy

I am guessing this is sarcasm, but I am asking a genuine question.

I hope Reynor casts the finals.

I thought your question was sarcasm
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 02 2024 18:27 GMT
#583
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks
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Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
June 02 2024 18:29 GMT
#584
On June 03 2024 02:56 Nasigil1 wrote:
You cannot find a more typical Dark game than this one.

Sloppy mechanics. Supply blocked multiple times. Low drone count in mid game. Not enough lava. Looked dead in the water. Suddenly pull a massive counter attach out of nowhere. Creating chaos everywhere. Turned a standard macro game into a extremely scrappy disaster. Somehow win the game against the best TvZ player in the world.

Never change Dark.

Haha, yeah. That's Dark in a nutshell.

I genuinely find it somewhat baffling, though, that it still works so frequently, and even against the best players. Like, at this point, it's pretty much a given that once or twice a series, when Dark finds himself behind, he will try to derail the game into chaos and go for some wonky base-trade. He did the same thing against Cure, if I remember correctly. I'm not quite certain why his opponents so often do not have a proper response prepared. I'm not saying I know what that response is, but there must be one and it will doubtlessly be of use against Dark.
Mutation complete.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
June 02 2024 18:30 GMT
#585
On June 03 2024 03:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks

I think the maximum controversial outcome is Oliveira beats Serral, then loses to Maru in the finals. So that will probably be what happens.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
June 02 2024 18:30 GMT
#586
I have to say it's a bit disappointing that there are only 2 matches left already. It's such a better experience to have a full day of Starcraft with the quarters on the finals day. Unexpected as well after Katowice getting it right this year finally I thought that lesson was learned. Maybe there's some reason that it couldn't be helped in which case no hatin' but that doesn't change the sense of anti climax you get (or at least I do) when only having 3 matches.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:35:24
June 02 2024 18:31 GMT
#587
What do people think about TvZ on this map? Seems very T favored in lategame, but what about earlier?

Did anyone see what Serral vetoed? Vetoes were only shown for a very short time on stream earlier.

Gets a cancel on Serral's 4th with hellbat push, casters missed it.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 02 2024 18:35 GMT
#588
On June 03 2024 03:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
What do people think about TvZ on this map? Seems very T favored in lategame, but what about earlier?

Did anyone see what Serral vetoed? Vetoes were only shown for a very short time on stream earlier.


Playing it feels very good for terran at least (as a low level player), not quite sure about pro players, but the third is relatively open so maybe it's not as bad for zerg as it seems at first glance.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
801 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:37:52
June 02 2024 18:36 GMT
#589
On June 03 2024 03:30 Penev wrote:
I have to say it's a bit disappointing that there are only 2 matches left already. It's such a better experience to have a full day of Starcraft with the quarters on the finals day. Unexpected as well after Katowice getting it right this year finally I thought that lesson was learned. Maybe there's some reason that it couldn't be helped in which case no hatin' but that doesn't change the sense of anti climax you get (or at least I do) when only having 3 matches.
Having long final days benefits more defensive players and factions,as after 2 series both players might be somewhat tired and shown most of their builds / strategies.
And then final series become "who will make fewer mistakes" compeition instead of "who will make more cool plays or prepare more cool strategies".
I know which one I personally prefer.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:41:57
June 02 2024 18:37 GMT
#590
Hidden base. I think that's a great plan.

When did ovie drops get so popular in high level tvz?

Every second Serral is mining that base is one second closer to Serral winning, as Wardi is pointing out now
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:48:06
June 02 2024 18:40 GMT
#591
On June 03 2024 03:30 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2024 03:27 BluemoonSC wrote:
Lord please grant us a serral Maru finals so I can enjoy the GOAT thread discussion for several more weeks

I think the maximum controversial outcome is Oliveira beats Serral, then loses to Maru in the finals. So that will probably be what happens.

I was gonna say Maru 4-0 over Serral would grant us debates for months on end, but you are right, Oliveira 3-0 over Serral, and then Maru 4-0 over Oliveira would bless us with the still greater collective meltdown.

Edit: Not gonna happen, though.
Mutation complete.
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
203 Posts
June 02 2024 18:41 GMT
#592
On June 03 2024 03:30 Penev wrote:
I have to say it's a bit disappointing that there are only 2 matches left already. It's such a better experience to have a full day of Starcraft with the quarters on the finals day. Unexpected as well after Katowice getting it right this year finally I thought that lesson was learned. Maybe there's some reason that it couldn't be helped in which case no hatin' but that doesn't change the sense of anti climax you get (or at least I do) when only having 3 matches.

If they start from quarter-final on the final day

1) It's going to be a very long day, especially for the player coming from quarter-final #1
2) You can't really prepare for the potential grand final opponent
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:42:40
June 02 2024 18:42 GMT
#593
On June 03 2024 03:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hidden base. I think that's a great plan.

When did ovie drops get so popular in high level tvz?



When rogue show us the way at the beginning of this tournament, ovi drops, nydus and bane mines.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
June 02 2024 18:43 GMT
#594
Serral needs to spread Oliveria out a bit, hit the natural or something.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 02 2024 18:45 GMT
#595
I'm not sure this is the best game plan from Serral, but it sure is a fun one.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:47:39
June 02 2024 18:45 GMT
#596
Serral is probably losing this game.

Or not
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 02 2024 18:46 GMT
#597
unreal game
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
June 02 2024 18:47 GMT
#598
Serral flexed on him lol
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-02 18:50:10
June 02 2024 18:47 GMT
#599
Having long final days benefits more defensive players and factions,as after 2 series both players might be somewhat tired and shown most of their builds / strategies.
And then final series become "who will make fewer mistakes" compeition instead of "who will make more cool plays or prepare more cool strategies".
I know which one I personally prefer.

It's just one BO5 more for the players. Besides you really only get true preparation when there's a week between matches like in GSL, Which is great to watch, I agree with that.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
June 02 2024 18:48 GMT
#600
Holy fuck Serral vs Oliveira G1... some mindblowing stuff from Serral. Now you know why Chinese fans call him "Overmind' He truly plays like he's controlling every unit with psychic energy.
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