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Argonauta
Spain4958 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:23 tigera6 wrote: herO already making Carriers before Maru massing up the Viking counts. He could have attacked earlier but got held by the Bio+Turret defense. Which it was the turning point, that defense of Maru was clutch, and made the transition to vikings in response to carriers easier | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
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Nasigil1
114 Posts
Maru and Serral are only two players in the world that felt like they always have a very clear game plan on how to win no matter what kind of situation they are in and how long the game has been going. When Maru threw down 20 turrets the second he scouts the Carriers I knew he had this one. | ||
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jack_less
77 Posts
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Nasigil1
114 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:21 geokilla wrote: We need the "best" Protoss player in the world but it never plays offline. Thinking he's some sort of advanced AI and not actually a human... Look at how Clem has been dominating online for years but his offline record is still shaky to this day. Took him 4 years since his first online premier to win the first offline premier. Even if MaxPax do decide to play offline, he will likely underperform for quite a long time before finally able to play up to his usual online level. It could take months, even years. | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:32 Nasigil1 wrote: Look at how Clem has been dominating online for years but his offline record is still shaky to this day. Took him 4 years since his first online premier to win the first offline premier. Even if MaxPax do decide to play offline, he will likely underperform for quite a long time before finally able to play up to his usual online level. It could take months, even years. To be fair, some players are naturally good at playing offline vs online. It doesn't take everyone a long time to adjust to offline play. Of course, whatever issue is stopping Maxpax from playing offline would probably continue to haunt him even if he decides to show up in person. I seriously doubt he'd be a natural on-stage player. | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:32 Nasigil1 wrote: Look at how Clem has been dominating online for years but his offline record is still shaky to this day. Took him 4 years since his first online premier to win the first offline premier. Even if MaxPax do decide to play offline, he will likely underperform for quite a long time before finally able to play up to his usual online level. It could take months, even years. Plus Maxpax hasn't even won an online premier either. And he's played in 20 of them. Granted a chunk of those 20 event were during COVID era before Maxpax really took off but that still doesn't point to him being a true contender in offline events. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
4 players directly seeded from Winner's Stage (obviously) Serral, Maru, Oliveira, Dark 1 player from Open Bracket: ByuN 3 players from Winner's Stage, who won one Bo5 in the Knockout Bracket: herO, Reynor, SHIN So basically the entire Open Bracket and Knockout Bracket ended up mostly pointless. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Is Ro4 a Bo7 or Bo5? | ||
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Nasigil1
114 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:35 JJH777 wrote: Plus Maxpax hasn't even won an online premier either. And he's played in 20 of them. Granted a chunk of those 20 event were during COVID era before Maxpax really took off but that still doesn't point to him being a true contender in offline events. Yeah that's what those "MaxPax will save Protoss" crowd confuses me the most. MaxPax hasn't even showing any dominance in online tournament either. He just played well in weekly cups, his performance in online premiers are nothing special so far. He has potential, that's it. Clem in 2020 and 2021 was regularly beating Serral and Reynor in bo7 series on biggest online tournaments. MaxPax is not on that level yet. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:37 TheLordofAwesome wrote: The schedule is moving along nicely, I must say. Not a lot of dead airtime. Is Ro4 a Bo7 or Bo5? BO5 | ||
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tigera6
3450 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:35 TheLordofAwesome wrote: In the Ro8: 4 players directly seeded from Winner's Stage (obviously) Serral, Maru, Oliveira, Dark 1 player from Open Bracket: ByuN 3 players from Winner's Stage, who won one Bo5 in the Knockout Bracket: herO, Reynor, SHIN So basically the entire Open Bracket and Knockout Bracket ended up mostly pointless. There are only a couple of players from the Open Bracket that is capable of going through the whole Knockout Bracket and get into the playoff, Byun, Solar and maybe Creator, depending on the bracket luck as well. Thats why some of us doesnt like the format. | ||
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ZeroByte13
780 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:35 TheLordofAwesome wrote: It's just too brutal.So basically the entire Open Bracket and Knockout Bracket ended up mostly pointless. ByuN had to play 19 maps to get into Ro8. Maru and Serral had to play just 4, Dark 5, Oliveira 6. Cure played 22 maps and barely didn't get into Ro8. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:39 Nasigil1 wrote: Yeah that's what those "MaxPax will save Protoss" crowd confuses me the most. MaxPax hasn't even showing any dominance in online tournament either. He just played well in weekly cups, his performance in online premiers are nothing special so far. He has potential, that's it. Clem in 2020 and 2021 was regularly beating Serral and Reynor in bo7 series on biggest online tournaments. MaxPax is not on that level yet. This | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
 I think Dark's mechanics have gotten worse since he became a dad. Having a few Elazer macro moments in the early game throughout this tournament. Can hardly blame the guy, infants are a ton of work. On June 02 2024 06:41 ZeroByte13 wrote: It's just too brutal. ByuN had to play 19 maps to get into Ro8. Maru and Serral had to play just 4, Dark 5, Oliveira 6. Cure played 22 maps and barely didn't get into Ro8. I agree completely. EDIT: Has Rogue popularized early Burrow in ZvT just 2 months after his return? Dark's creep spread has sucked all tournament. Dark should build a few infestors. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1215 Posts
Oliveira miracle story, part 2 incoming? | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:50 Antithesis wrote: I just realized we have the perfect setup for a repetition of Kato'23: Shin vs. Serral in the quarterfinals, Maru already advanced to the semifinals, and Oliveira still in the tournament. Oliveira miracle story, part 2 incoming? Reynor is even his ro8 opponent. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
On June 02 2024 06:50 Antithesis wrote: I just realized we have the perfect setup for a repetition of Kato'23: Shin vs. Serral in the quarterfinals, Maru already advanced to the semifinals, and Oliveira still in the tournament. Oliveira miracle story, part 2 incoming? I seriously doubt Oliveira will ever play that well again in his life. Also, he'll probably have to play Serral in the Ro4, assuming he beats Reynor. No way he takes down Serral. He didn't have to play Serral in his Kato 23 run. Maru vs Serral finals, part 2 incoming. 3rax reaper! the Byun special | ||
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