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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
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tigera6
3516 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:49 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Byun wouldn't shake hands with Dark?? Does anyone know the deal with this story? Byun does this to everyone as a joke, they hugged after the match | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:48 Topin wrote: i believed for a minute there... maybe if byuns tanks were more spread... idk he lost like 7 tank for no reason while trying to push | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:50 tigera6 wrote: This has been Byun story since coming back from military for the most part, capable of playing great games but keep falling short against the top tier guys like Maru Dark herO Serral. Byun is committed to not playing late game against Zerg. He will kill them in the midgame or he will die trying. Whether he is so committed to not playing late game because of his injury history (even Maru abandons playing late game with Zerg when he is suffering from injury issues) or because of some mental block, that's the reason he can't get to the next level against the top players. When they know he's afraid to go late game and that he will always be ultra aggressive against them, it makes him easier to deal with. Byun can only get so far overwhelming opponents in the early and midgame. Against the tip top he needs to not be so predictable. | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:48 dysenterymd wrote: Poor Byun, he looks like he has the skill to pick off these top players like Dark in the games, but it just never comes together for him. If Oliveira beats Reynor will a spot go to the #2 in the Asia rankings? Or will it just be another spot in the global rankings? I believe the extra slot will go to the Regional ranking, either EU or Asia. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:50 tigera6 wrote: This has been Byun story since coming back from military for the most part, capable of playing great games but keep falling short against the top tier guys like Maru Dark herO Serral. Also before military except for the short stint in late 2016 | ||
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ZeroByte13
801 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:55 Vindicare605 wrote: Disclaimer - it's not a balance whine post, just an observation.afraid to go late game and that he will always be ultra aggressive against them, it makes him easier to deal with. Byun can only get so far overwhelming opponents in the early and midgame. Against the tip top he needs to not be so predictable. But the same happens when one faction is more favored in late game - even if the other faction might be more favored in mid-game, it usually still tilts the overall balance towards the late-game favored faction. Unless that other faction's mid-game power spike is overwhelming. Knowing that your opponent will most probably really try to end the game before minute X makes it easier to survive until that minute X as you know what to expect. | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On June 02 2024 07:56 tigera6 wrote: I believe the extra slot will go to the Regional ranking, either EU or Asia. Oh really, I thought others had said any extra slots from double qualifications go to the global standings? So with Maru and Dark double qualifying those slots go to Korea not global? | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:08 ZeroByte13 wrote: Disclaimer - it's not a balance whine post, just an observation. But the same happens when one faction is more favored in late game - even if the other faction might be more favored in mid-game, it usually still tilts the overall balance towards the late-game favored faction. If player A knows that player B will most probably really try to end the game before 15th minute, it makes it easier to survive until that 15th minute as they know what will happen. Byun's style is not a balance thing. He plays the same way vs Maru in TvT. Also, he's literally always played this way, pretty much. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:08 ZeroByte13 wrote: Disclaimer - it's not a balance whine post, just an observation. But the same happens when one faction is more favored in late game - even if the other faction might be more favored in mid-game, it usually still tilts the overall balance towards the late-game favored faction. If player A knows that player B will most probably really try to end the game before 15th minute, it makes it easier to survive until that 15th minute as they know what will happen. But lategame is not just reaching a certain mark in the clock, its certain level of income, infrastructure and tech. If you prep for lategame, you may be vulnerable to midgame pushes, hence is not as simple as you make it sound. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
State has done a great job at casting this event, I have to say. | ||
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ZeroByte13
801 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:10 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Didn't I say in the first line that this is just a pretty obvious observation that knowing what your opponent will do makes it easier to counter it?Byun's style is not a balance thing. He plays the same way vs Maru in TvT. Also, he's literally always played this way, pretty much. I never said ByuN's loss had anything to do with balance. Only with him being predictable. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:12 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Reynor's creep is already noticeably better than Dark's, lol State has done a great job at casting this event, I have to say. State - Pig best casting duo so far | ||
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ZeroByte13
801 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:10 Argonauta wrote: Of course it's not a certain mark on the clock. And of course it's not simple.But lategame is not just reaching a certain mark in the clock, its certain level of income, infrastructure and tech. If you prep for lategame, you may be vulnerable to midgame pushes, hence is not as simple as you make it sound. But if you know that your opponent most probably will go for early or mid-game all-in - because they really don't want to play late-game - doesn't this make your life quite a bit easier compared to the situation when you don't know it? Knowing what your opponent will do is a huge benefit. | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:17 ZeroByte13 wrote: Of course it's not a certain mark on the clock. And of course it's not simple. But if you know that your opponent most probably will go for early or mid-game all-in - because they really don't want to play late-game - doesn't this make your life quite a bit easier compared to the situation when you don't know it? Knowing what your opponent will do is a huge benefit. And if you know your opponent wants to play lategame, you can counter it by eco cheese, its not necessarily always an all in the way one can deal with it. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
And now Reynor is broke. | ||
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ZeroByte13
801 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:21 Argonauta wrote: And your opponent can scout it and punish your greed. As they know it's also an option for you.And if you know your opponent wants to play lategame, you can counter it by eco cheese, its not necessarily always an all in the way one can deal with it. In the end, one of you is on a timer, another one isn't. I think this always benefits the guy who is fine - and even happy - with going to the late game. But this is offtopic here anyway, sorry. I shouldn't have started this, probably. | ||
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2656 Posts
On June 02 2024 08:23 TheLordofAwesome wrote: I don't think Reynor is actually making that much progress. And now Reynor is broke. Kind of annoying that Pig has been hyping up Reynor the entire game while Reynor has been killing himself headbutting the terran. | ||
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