On June 02 2024 01:08 Argonauta wrote:
According with liquipedia closed qualifier grants 2
According with liquipedia closed qualifier grants 2
Oh, I'm stupid, sorry. I just saw the gold as "First place", but it's 1-2.
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Swisslink
2954 Posts
On June 02 2024 01:08 Argonauta wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2024 01:01 Swisslink wrote: On June 02 2024 00:56 riche wrote: On June 02 2024 00:24 Swisslink wrote: This should be Rogue's last chance to qualify for the Esports World Cup, right (aside from the qualifier with a single spot on the line, where I doubt he has a chance to win)? I think the qualifier will have 2 spots, he has a chance there if he continues improving. Most of best players will already qualify for ESW before that. 2 Spots to the Closed Qualifier, but the Closed Qualifier will only grant one spot. According with liquipedia closed qualifier grants 2 Oh, I'm stupid, sorry. I just saw the gold as "First place", but it's 1-2. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
On June 02 2024 01:11 Swisslink wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2024 01:08 Argonauta wrote: On June 02 2024 01:01 Swisslink wrote: On June 02 2024 00:56 riche wrote: On June 02 2024 00:24 Swisslink wrote: This should be Rogue's last chance to qualify for the Esports World Cup, right (aside from the qualifier with a single spot on the line, where I doubt he has a chance to win)? I think the qualifier will have 2 spots, he has a chance there if he continues improving. Most of best players will already qualify for ESW before that. 2 Spots to the Closed Qualifier, but the Closed Qualifier will only grant one spot. According with liquipedia closed qualifier grants 2 Oh, I'm stupid, sorry. I just saw the gold as "First place", but it's 1-2. That means there are about four spots to try on? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On June 01 2024 23:27 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2024 21:16 WombaT wrote: On June 01 2024 18:46 Pandain wrote: On June 01 2024 03:00 JJH777 wrote: Too bad for Stats. Also I really wish they would actually take the negative feedback into account and revert back the old Dreamhack Open format from 2022 and earlier or create a new format altogether. Winning 2 bo3s to go to ro8 while Open Bracket players have to go through like 10+ rounds of bo5 play to get to an equal point is just anti competition. We could run 100 of these and I doubt an open bracket player would win one. I completely agree. It's actually kind of insane. It's less problematic to me that the open bracket players needing to win 3 bo3 + 3 bo5 to make ro8 than that a player can win just two bo3s and make playoffs. Also, the choice to do only three matches on Sunday is equally bad. Should have done Ro8 onwards. On June 01 2024 14:40 Kreuger wrote: On June 01 2024 13:49 JJH777 wrote: Does that mean we'll get the winner of herO/Clem/Gumi vs Maru? That'd be sad was hoping for a 3rd herO vs Maru finals. From my understanding it should be yeah Could very well be a remarkably bad tournament for Protoss, again. Decent chance we don't get even one Protoss in Ro8 and then if this is the case Maru will likely bop herO. In other news, I really thought Serral was going to take a hit with military service. Clearly not haha. It’s a pretty brutal format, there should be some balance between circuit qualification and the open bracket that is a little less skewed. Honestly I don’t think anyone except maybe Serral close to his best could conceivably navigate this format to win a tournament, and even then it would be a tall order. How is it worse than the Katowice open bracket that has been there for years and some notable winners got through it (albeit rarely) I don’t think that’s ideal either but it’s not quite as skewed as this format. Clem’s already dropped 2 series and he’s still alive, the likes of Serral et al have won 2 and are in playoffs already. Whereas open bracket players it’s considerably less forgiving. At least in Katowice yeah it’s a slog to get into the group stage or w/e but once you’re there it’s pretty much an even playing field. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On June 02 2024 01:13 swarminfestor wrote: Show nested quote + On June 02 2024 01:11 Swisslink wrote: On June 02 2024 01:08 Argonauta wrote: On June 02 2024 01:01 Swisslink wrote: On June 02 2024 00:56 riche wrote: On June 02 2024 00:24 Swisslink wrote: This should be Rogue's last chance to qualify for the Esports World Cup, right (aside from the qualifier with a single spot on the line, where I doubt he has a chance to win)? I think the qualifier will have 2 spots, he has a chance there if he continues improving. Most of best players will already qualify for ESW before that. 2 Spots to the Closed Qualifier, but the Closed Qualifier will only grant one spot. According with liquipedia closed qualifier grants 2 Oh, I'm stupid, sorry. I just saw the gold as "First place", but it's 1-2. That means there are about four spots to try on? Nah there's a qualifier leading to a closed qualifier, just two spot overall | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On June 02 2024 01:38 Nakajin wrote: Even after all these years, there's nothing quite like Scarlett playing well. Yeah that was well done | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18173 Posts
On June 02 2024 01:23 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On June 01 2024 23:27 Acrofales wrote: On June 01 2024 21:16 WombaT wrote: On June 01 2024 18:46 Pandain wrote: On June 01 2024 03:00 JJH777 wrote: Too bad for Stats. Also I really wish they would actually take the negative feedback into account and revert back the old Dreamhack Open format from 2022 and earlier or create a new format altogether. Winning 2 bo3s to go to ro8 while Open Bracket players have to go through like 10+ rounds of bo5 play to get to an equal point is just anti competition. We could run 100 of these and I doubt an open bracket player would win one. I completely agree. It's actually kind of insane. It's less problematic to me that the open bracket players needing to win 3 bo3 + 3 bo5 to make ro8 than that a player can win just two bo3s and make playoffs. Also, the choice to do only three matches on Sunday is equally bad. Should have done Ro8 onwards. On June 01 2024 14:40 Kreuger wrote: On June 01 2024 13:49 JJH777 wrote: Does that mean we'll get the winner of herO/Clem/Gumi vs Maru? That'd be sad was hoping for a 3rd herO vs Maru finals. From my understanding it should be yeah Could very well be a remarkably bad tournament for Protoss, again. Decent chance we don't get even one Protoss in Ro8 and then if this is the case Maru will likely bop herO. In other news, I really thought Serral was going to take a hit with military service. Clearly not haha. It’s a pretty brutal format, there should be some balance between circuit qualification and the open bracket that is a little less skewed. Honestly I don’t think anyone except maybe Serral close to his best could conceivably navigate this format to win a tournament, and even then it would be a tall order. How is it worse than the Katowice open bracket that has been there for years and some notable winners got through it (albeit rarely) I don’t think that’s ideal either but it’s not quite as skewed as this format. Clem’s already dropped 2 series and he’s still alive, the likes of Serral et al have won 2 and are in playoffs already. Whereas open bracket players it’s considerably less forgiving. At least in Katowice yeah it’s a slog to get into the group stage or w/e but once you’re there it’s pretty much an even playing field. I think it's a bit weird that Serral and Dark got a pass from playing the regionals. It makes it a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy that the top of the global standings stay at the top. But I don't mind the rest: do well at the regionals and you get a seed into the group stage, and thus at a bare minimum, the knockout stage, do badly/don't compete at the regionals and you have a brutal slog through the open bracket. Group stage should probably be Bo5, but I'm guessing they want to rotate as much as possible on the main stage, and doing Bo5s would allow for fewer matches there. | ||
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Tsubbi
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JJH777
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It's also a joke that they've never done a single pre-determined bracket where we know where each placement from each group will wind up in advance. Always has to be behind closed doors. As if players throwing matches to avoid certain brackets is that big of an issue... Pre-determined brackets have worked for GSL for the games entire life. | ||
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ZeroByte13
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This must be exhausting - and then he will have to play a TvT expert. Just brutal. But it's his own fault - losing to Stats and Big Gabe should have be avoidable for Clem. | ||
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