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Poland9288 Posts
On August 06 2023 05:37 Nakajin wrote: I would bet Reynor to win on a 4 or 5 to 1 odd honestly. I think he's a massive favorite now. I don't trust anyone else to deliver I'd give Cure like 65% chance to beat Reynor. Solar vs Reynor is either 50/50 or slightly Reynor favored in my opinion | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On August 06 2023 05:37 Nakajin wrote: I would bet Reynor to win on a 4 or 5 to 1 odd honestly. I think he's a massive favorite now. I don't trust anyone else to deliver Isn't he weak to the exhaust style Cure can definitely play (although not as good as Maru)? Clem also usually does well against him. And if Solar can 3-0 Serral he can also beat Reynor. Disagree pretty hard that Reynor is this much of a favorite, honestly my money would be on Cure | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On August 06 2023 05:45 Sent. wrote: I'd give Cure like 65% chance to beat Reynor. Solar vs Reynor is either 50/50 or slightly Reynor favored in my opinion To me those are esl weekly cup number 248 odds, but 150 k$ on the line with Reynor in the chair I don't think either Cure or Solar are likely to hold their composure. | ||
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FCHK
202 Posts
The other 3 are quite even | ||
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Sent.
Poland9288 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3509 Posts
On August 06 2023 06:10 Sent. wrote: Would be nice if they made a mini Legends 2.0 tournament before the grand final. Something like a small bo7 between Serral and Maru... I know you're being cheeky, but we still need to have the Brood War Legends matches. ;} | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
I expect Cure to win the tournament though | ||
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CaRn1FeX
Germany203 Posts
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SHODAN
United Kingdom1153 Posts
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AcrossFromTime
29 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26494 Posts
On August 06 2023 07:49 AcrossFromTime wrote: How many more colossus shots would have hit terran armies this tournament if not for the range nerf? And the range nerf didn't even come from Blizzard, it was a mod from ESL. Protoss aren't allowed to win with disruptor because it's too frustrating, they aren't allowed to win with shield batteries because it's too low-skill, they aren't allowed to win with stalker cuz no fair teleporting units, they aren't allowed to win with colossus cuz deathball, they aren't allowed to win with high templar cuz too hard to move out of storm, they aren't allowed to win with cannons cuz no fair building attack me, they aren't allowed to win with oracles because too many of same unit, they aren't allowed to win with zealot cuz zealot shouldn't attack me should just die, they aren't allowed to win with adept because no fair teleporting unit too strong, they aren't allowed to win with archon cuz too much health should evaporate with one click, they aren't allowed to win with sentries because no fair u change map layout, they aren't allowed to win with tempest because no fair you one shot my units, they aren't allowed to win with carrier because I just don't like it its mean they too strong. Possibly the most cogently argued balance whine I’ve ever heard | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On August 06 2023 08:39 WombaT wrote: Possibly the most cogently argued balance whine I’ve ever heard Actual incredible post and not far off lol. On August 06 2023 05:59 Nakajin wrote: To me those are esl weekly cup number 248 odds, but 150 k$ on the line with Reynor in the chair I don't think either Cure or Solar are likely to hold their composure. I don't think reynor will win but to your credit reynor is the ultimate big tournament player. He knows how to peak and peak hard, and stay composed while doing it. Three world championship finals in a row is no joke | ||
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Topin
Peru10110 Posts
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bela.mervado
Hungary407 Posts
On August 06 2023 07:49 AcrossFromTime wrote: How many more colossus shots would have hit terran armies this tournament if not for the range nerf? And the range nerf didn't even come from Blizzard, it was a mod from ESL. Protoss aren't allowed to win with disruptor because it's too frustrating, they aren't allowed to win with shield batteries because it's too low-skill, they aren't allowed to win with stalker cuz no fair teleporting units, they aren't allowed to win with colossus cuz deathball, they aren't allowed to win with high templar cuz too hard to move out of storm, they aren't allowed to win with cannons cuz no fair building attack me, they aren't allowed to win with oracles because too many of same unit, they aren't allowed to win with zealot cuz zealot shouldn't attack me should just die, they aren't allowed to win with adept because no fair teleporting unit too strong, they aren't allowed to win with archon cuz too much health should evaporate with one click, they aren't allowed to win with sentries because no fair u change map layout, they aren't allowed to win with tempest because no fair you one shot my units, they aren't allowed to win with carrier because I just don't like it its mean they too strong. I like this dude ^^^^^ hope he's not a serial killer tho | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 06 2023 07:49 AcrossFromTime wrote: How many more colossus shots would have hit terran armies this tournament if not for the range nerf? And the range nerf didn't even come from Blizzard, it was a mod from ESL. Protoss aren't allowed to win with disruptor because it's too frustrating, they aren't allowed to win with shield batteries because it's too low-skill, they aren't allowed to win with stalker cuz no fair teleporting units, they aren't allowed to win with colossus cuz deathball, they aren't allowed to win with high templar cuz too hard to move out of storm, they aren't allowed to win with cannons cuz no fair building attack me, they aren't allowed to win with oracles because too many of same unit, they aren't allowed to win with zealot cuz zealot shouldn't attack me should just die, they aren't allowed to win with adept because no fair teleporting unit too strong, they aren't allowed to win with archon cuz too much health should evaporate with one click, they aren't allowed to win with sentries because no fair u change map layout, they aren't allowed to win with tempest because no fair you one shot my units, they aren't allowed to win with carrier because I just don't like it its mean they too strong. as much as I'm malding too this is fuking hilarious ahahha | ||
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On August 06 2023 07:49 AcrossFromTime wrote: How many more colossus shots would have hit terran armies this tournament if not for the range nerf? And the range nerf didn't even come from Blizzard, it was a mod from ESL. Protoss aren't allowed to win with disruptor because it's too frustrating, they aren't allowed to win with shield batteries because it's too low-skill, they aren't allowed to win with stalker cuz no fair teleporting units, they aren't allowed to win with colossus cuz deathball, they aren't allowed to win with high templar cuz too hard to move out of storm, they aren't allowed to win with cannons cuz no fair building attack me, they aren't allowed to win with oracles because too many of same unit, they aren't allowed to win with zealot cuz zealot shouldn't attack me should just die, they aren't allowed to win with adept because no fair teleporting unit too strong, they aren't allowed to win with archon cuz too much health should evaporate with one click, they aren't allowed to win with sentries because no fair u change map layout, they aren't allowed to win with tempest because no fair you one shot my units, they aren't allowed to win with carrier because I just don't like it its mean they too strong. This tournament was an overall upswing for Protoss, but Classic got a very bad draw. Watch game 4 of the series a few times, I think you will feel better. herO holding the most disgusting 5rax+tank push possible by Heromarine should be inspiring too. | ||
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buzz_bender
445 Posts
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Slydie
1935 Posts
On August 06 2023 14:50 buzz_bender wrote: Both Maru and Serral losing in their mirror matchups... now I'm wondering how much ping would have affected their games, given that their razor thin edges in those matchups. Not much in this case. The games were mostly decided by the builds they chose. Props to Clem and Solar for studying their opponents. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On August 06 2023 07:49 AcrossFromTime wrote: How many more colossus shots would have hit terran armies this tournament if not for the range nerf? And the range nerf didn't even come from Blizzard, it was a mod from ESL. Protoss aren't allowed to win with disruptor because it's too frustrating, they aren't allowed to win with shield batteries because it's too low-skill, they aren't allowed to win with stalker cuz no fair teleporting units, they aren't allowed to win with colossus cuz deathball, they aren't allowed to win with high templar cuz too hard to move out of storm, they aren't allowed to win with cannons cuz no fair building attack me, they aren't allowed to win with oracles because too many of same unit, they aren't allowed to win with zealot cuz zealot shouldn't attack me should just die, they aren't allowed to win with adept because no fair teleporting unit too strong, they aren't allowed to win with archon cuz too much health should evaporate with one click, they aren't allowed to win with sentries because no fair u change map layout, they aren't allowed to win with tempest because no fair you one shot my units, they aren't allowed to win with carrier because I just don't like it its mean they too strong. Best epic post I've read on TL in a while! Seriously, at this rate, Protoss might as well be erased from SC2 or competitive play. Hoping a victory for Clem or Solar (a truly tragic almost SoO-like Kong figure) - especially since they took out favourites Maru and Serral. But very likely, we'll end up with an anti-climatic mirror final (ZvZzzzz) or Reynor just demolishing Cure. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On August 06 2023 15:15 Slydie wrote: Not much in this case. The games were mostly decided by the builds they chose. Props to Clem and Solar for studying their opponents. Which sucks even more. I feel that the only mirror that isn't coin-flippy and truly fun to watch is BW TvT. | ||
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