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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 12 2023 17:02 GMT
#821
On February 13 2023 02:01 tlnetuser108 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 02:00 Waxangel wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


whoever is rigging it must have really perverse incentives cause Ionno who this benefits


Match fixers


And your proof of all of this is where?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
February 12 2023 17:02 GMT
#822
On February 13 2023 01:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


I think it's pretty clearly Rogue but GOAT criteria seems to differ a lot depending on the person


See if someone answers with Rogue as the GOAT, I'll just say "good pick, but i think Maru is better for XYZ." and then the compromise will end up with Maru being the best GSL player ever and Rogue being the best offline Bo7 player in history.

If someone answers with anyone else, I'll just ask them "why?"

At this point in the story, they are the only 2 who in my opinion have a legit claim to the title.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3559 Posts
February 12 2023 17:03 GMT
#823
Yea this was disappointing series would have Loved to See serral.
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 17:04 GMT
#824
the red terran player is smurfing for sure, this is unethical!!
~~~~~
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9319 Posts
February 12 2023 17:05 GMT
#825
On February 13 2023 02:00 Sent. wrote:
I'm triggered by Zerg players placing their evos in front of their third bases.


See he wouldn't lost his 70% done 2/2 if he just placed those evos at his main or natural
You're now breathing manually
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 17:05 GMT
#826
RIP Zerg Cabal 2023, IEM Katowice
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1256 Posts
February 12 2023 17:05 GMT
#827
Yeah, I'm happy that Ragnarok has made such a deep run but I do wish that Serral had stayed in that final game a bit longer so as to make for a more evenly matched semifinal.
Mutation complete.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 12 2023 17:05 GMT
#828
Rough on RagnaroK, seems Maru really does have his number, that makes it 7-0 in their last two series?
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
February 12 2023 17:06 GMT
#829
Solar looked significantly better vs Maru. Keep trying to say that guy has elite ZvT, Ragnarok is getting better but he's just not at that level yet not in that match up anyway.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18371 Posts
February 12 2023 17:06 GMT
#830
What makes this a brutal beatdown that was just hard to watch, while herO massacring Dark earlier was a fascinating showcase of talent? Both were totally one-sided 3-0s, but they felt so so different.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33659 Posts
February 12 2023 17:06 GMT
#831
On February 13 2023 02:05 Pandemona wrote:
Rough on RagnaroK, seems Maru really does have his number, that makes it 7-0 in their last two series?


it's as bad as 13-0 right now
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8252 Posts
February 12 2023 17:07 GMT
#832
No Zergs?!
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 12 2023 17:07 GMT
#833
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


This comment being so late makes me think you didn't watch the series.

Time is not a low tier player, he just inst able to compete much cause of Visas. Heoutplayed Reynor and Reynor was SUPER tilted. Raynor got eliminated and last in his group the last time he went to GSL, it's not a surprise he can lose.

Serral sucks at ZvZ and in his arrogance refused to practice it before the torunament. All week he played very bad Zvz and almsot didn't maake it out of the group stage. Ragnarok ZvZ is actually very decent, and he deservedly beat Serral.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
February 12 2023 17:07 GMT
#834
I feel it for Ragna, amazing run.. yet for now, Maru is just in another league.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 12 2023 17:07 GMT
#835
Disapointing series, Serral definitely would have given a tougher game.

I hope for Time to prevail now and then knock out Maru in TvT
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 12 2023 17:07 GMT
#836
Meh.

Ragnarok looks... unsurprised at that.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
February 12 2023 17:08 GMT
#837
On February 13 2023 02:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:58 Waxangel wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


I think it's pretty clearly Rogue but GOAT criteria seems to differ a lot depending on the person


See if someone answers with Rogue as the GOAT, I'll just say "good pick, but i think Maru is better for XYZ." and then the compromise will end up with Maru being the best GSL player ever and Rogue being the best offline Bo7 player in history.

If someone answers with anyone else, I'll just ask them "why?"

At this point in the story, they are the only 2 who in my opinion have a legit claim to the title.


Considering his fanboys are litteraly manifacturing facts, yes rogue is goat
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16085 Posts
February 12 2023 17:08 GMT
#838
On February 13 2023 02:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:58 Waxangel wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


I think it's pretty clearly Rogue but GOAT criteria seems to differ a lot depending on the person


See if someone answers with Rogue as the GOAT, I'll just say "good pick, but i think Maru is better for XYZ." and then the compromise will end up with Maru being the best GSL player ever and Rogue being the best offline Bo7 player in history.

If someone answers with anyone else, I'll just ask them "why?"

At this point in the story, they are the only 2 who in my opinion have a legit claim to the title.

The fact that Maru had success in the Kespa era unlike Rogue and Rogue also won mainly when Zerg was really strong puts Rogue out of the discussion imo
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 12 2023 17:09 GMT
#839
On February 13 2023 02:06 Acrofales wrote:
What makes this a brutal beatdown that was just hard to watch, while herO massacring Dark earlier was a fascinating showcase of talent? Both were totally one-sided 3-0s, but they felt so so different.


Maybe because we all knew the end of the match before it happened so we were just waiting to get through it, whereas Dark getting so thoroughly destroyed was unexpected?

Or maybe just because I wanted to see a Protoss win and Hero gave me what I wanted but Maru did not.

Or maybe because those Stasis Traps were objectively hype as fuck.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 12 2023 17:09 GMT
#840
Will herO vs Time be as one sided?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
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