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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 16:54 GMT
#801
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


I think agreed. But the amazing thing is that history is still being written, so who knows how things will develop.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
540 Posts
February 12 2023 16:55 GMT
#802
Ragna should just do really dumb all-ins. You never know, when Maru has a door open.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:55 GMT
#803
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 12 2023 16:56 GMT
#804
Maru has been up 2-0 in Katowice ro4 enough times to not get overconfident right?
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
February 12 2023 16:56 GMT
#805
Serral must be shaking his head right now looking at this series - "It should be me." Really wanted this to be more competitive than their GSL battle, but it is what it is. Maru in the finals incoming.
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:56 GMT
#806
On February 13 2023 01:54 Elentos wrote:
Ragnarok can beat any player in the world except the one he's playing right now.


I feel the exact same about Solar.

Maru is the crusher of dreams.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 12 2023 16:57 GMT
#807
very volatile results all around this IEM, too bad we dont get many great matchups this year after a long tournament drought

also Maru got one of the easiest runs to the finals with how the brackets turned out, hopefully we get maru vs hero in the finals at least
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#808
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


Fair point, but the G5L closes the argument for me. Now let's watch history being hopefully made.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
February 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#809
On February 13 2023 01:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:54 Elentos wrote:
Ragnarok can beat any player in the world except the one he's playing right now.


I feel the exact same about Solar.

Maru is the crusher of dreams.

true that
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#810
On February 13 2023 01:55 HeroSandro wrote:
Ragna should just do really dumb all-ins. You never know, when Maru has a door open.

Solar already did it on this very same map, cant do the same thing again.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
February 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#811
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


I think it's pretty clearly Rogue but GOAT criteria seems to differ a lot depending on the person
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
February 12 2023 16:58 GMT
#812
On February 13 2023 01:57 Tsubbi wrote:
very volatile results all around this IEM, too bad we dont get many great matchups this year after a long tournament drought

also Maru got one of the easiest runs to the finals with how the brackets turned out, hopefully we get maru vs hero in the finals at least


Amazing how his run goes from being one of the hardest to one of the easiest because Serral's ZvZ was so questionable in this tournament.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
February 12 2023 16:59 GMT
#813
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
February 12 2023 17:00 GMT
#814
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


whoever is rigging it must have really perverse incentives cause Ionno who this benefits
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
February 12 2023 17:00 GMT
#815
On February 13 2023 01:58 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:53 Fran_ wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:52 [Phantom] wrote:
On February 13 2023 01:46 Pandain wrote:
This is the problem with upsets like Ragnarok. Its really cool in the moment but often means the next match is a complete mismatch.

Not expecting the same from time though, hoping for a cool series.



And people critized me when I said that the worse player can beat a better player. It's just a fact.

I'm rootingfor Maru to win this whole torunament, he deserves a world championship


Undisputed GOAT if he wins.


Still an argument to be made for Rogue. He is after all the only one who has multiple of both Global Championships and GSL Championships.


I think it's pretty clearly Rogue but GOAT criteria seems to differ a lot depending on the person


GOAT arguments, if civil, are fun to have, because there is no definition and it's completely arbitrary
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7195 Posts
February 12 2023 17:00 GMT
#816
On February 13 2023 02:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


whoever is rigging it must have really perverse incentives cause Ionno who this benefits

Zerg cabal works in mysterious ways.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2023 17:00 GMT
#817
On February 13 2023 02:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


whoever is rigging it must have really perverse incentives cause Ionno who this benefits

The cabal is taking a strategic loss so nobody complains when they win the next five world championships.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
February 12 2023 17:00 GMT
#818
I'm triggered by Zerg players placing their evos in front of their third bases.
You're now breathing manually
tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
February 12 2023 17:01 GMT
#819
On February 13 2023 02:00 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 01:59 tlnetuser108 wrote:
What the actual fuck? How did Ragnarok and Time, two low tier players, beat championship tier players in Reynor and Serral? This tournament is seriously rigged.


whoever is rigging it must have really perverse incentives cause Ionno who this benefits


Match fixers

User was temp banned for this post.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 17:02 GMT
#820
On February 13 2023 01:46 Luolis wrote:
Serral died for this.

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