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[IEM] Katowice 2023 - RO8, RO4, Grand Finals - Page 11

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TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
February 12 2023 13:14 GMT
#201
Serral with an Idra Gged. That push was holdable with a few drone pull will still be ahead of Rag. Then again Serral didn’t have full access to information like us viewers

Maru now has an easy path to finals since Rag is quite bad in tvz (worst than solar by a mile)

SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
February 12 2023 13:15 GMT
#202
Artosis gained some weight and forgot to buy new jacket
Looks ridiculous
peak5g
Profile Joined February 2023
5 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#203
Yes idra gg. The game was over serral had it won.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#204
On February 12 2023 22:14 TossHeroes wrote:
Serral with an Idra Gged. That push was holdable with a few drone pull will still be ahead of Rag. Then again Serral didn’t have full access to information like us viewers

Maru now has an easy path to finals since Rag is quite bad in tvz (worst than solar by a mile)


Ragnarok ZvT are pretty great, he has beaten top Terran before, including Clem, Cure, Bunny, Gumiho, EXCEPT for Maru.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#205
If maru doesn't win this kato he's actually cursed haha. TvT group into perennial punching bags solar and Ragnarok.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#206
Having the Maru Serral banger TvZ replaced with Maru Rag is a bit sad =/
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 13:17:10
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#207
To be true, I didn't think Serral play a good ZvZ as he did last year or years before. You can see in every game today that he always lack one or two drones behind Ragnarok at some points. May be too much thinking to defend or lack of game sense perhaps. And it was too late to realize that you were behind in every aspect.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#208
Agreed it's a way early GG from Serral but hot take doesn't matter too much in the end. A deep run in his tournament would most likely involve facing Reynor or Dark and he ain't beating either playing ZvZ like that.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
231 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#209
On February 12 2023 22:14 TaKeTV wrote:
That was an insane misjudgement from Serral I feel. After the 2nd baneling wave if he moves back to the natural, he has that game won 100%.
I can only imagine he thought that he held and thats why he moved out towards 3rd and everything went to shit then.

He was up 23 drones and in his natural he holds this 100% of the time . Cant explain it otherwise hm


Seems like he was having a really hard time reading ZvZ and playing reactively with a tremendous amount of uncertainty. Which is odd, because the Zerg meta hasn't changed much beyond the new maps.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#210
On February 12 2023 22:16 Pandain wrote:
If maru doesn't win this kato he's actually cursed haha. TvT group into perennial punching bags solar and Ragnarok.

nah, the Final would still be very tough for him, but he has a better shot now.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#211
On February 12 2023 22:16 peak5g wrote:
Yes idra gg. The game was over serral had it won.

Think so too after rewatching it. He probably didn't know Ragnarok had no Drones
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Seacow
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden99 Posts
February 12 2023 13:16 GMT
#212
Serral 1-3 in series against Zergs this tournament, meh
Early upgrade enthusiast
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10128 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 13:17:28
February 12 2023 13:17 GMT
#213
RAGNAGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
February 12 2023 13:17 GMT
#214
On February 12 2023 22:14 TossHeroes wrote:
Serral with an Idra Gged. That push was holdable with a few drone pull will still be ahead of Rag. Then again Serral didn’t have full access to information like us viewers

Maru now has an easy path to finals since Rag is quite bad in tvz (worst than solar by a mile)


RagnaroK has top tier ZvT, even better than Solar imo. It’s not gonna be easy for Maru, but he has the mental edge
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
February 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#215
On February 12 2023 22:16 Seacow wrote:
Serral 1-3 in series against Zergs this tournament, meh

and none of them against Reynor/Dark, but to be fair Ragnarok did beat Dark to get here.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16091 Posts
February 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#216
On February 12 2023 22:16 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Having the Maru Serral banger TvZ replaced with Maru Rag is a bit sad =/

Maru Serral would've been a boring 3-0 for Serral
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
February 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#217
this will be marus easiest tvz of his life
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 13:20:57
February 12 2023 13:18 GMT
#218
On February 12 2023 22:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2023 22:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
On February 12 2023 22:08 Elentos wrote:
In this game everybody is misreading everything


Including Serral! Was that an Idra GG? I think that was an Idra GG!

He was on even supply but up 20 workers. He was losing the fight bad.


He really should have won the last fight though. Could simply have retreated to natural, pulled 15 drones etc. Instead, he ended up being trapped by the ling surround, which definitely put him far behind.

However, even then he had 9 roaches just about to spawn. With a worker pull he probably holds on. Definitely felt like Serral misread the state of the game somewhat there. Not aware how far ahead he was in economy.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2023 13:19 GMT
#219
Well at least now herO won't have to play 3 Zerg in a row to win.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
February 12 2023 13:19 GMT
#220
On February 12 2023 22:16 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2023 22:14 TossHeroes wrote:
Serral with an Idra Gged. That push was holdable with a few drone pull will still be ahead of Rag. Then again Serral didn’t have full access to information like us viewers

Maru now has an easy path to finals since Rag is quite bad in tvz (worst than solar by a mile)


Ragnarok ZvT are pretty great, he has beaten top Terran before, including Clem, Cure, Bunny, Gumiho, EXCEPT for Maru.


He lost to Clem in this tournament and Cure played him VERY VERY close.

Of the Zergs remaining he's the weakest by far in the match up, and then there's the fact that he's scared of Maru by his own admission in the GSL finals last year.

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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